Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
#101
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Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
OK, they are basically giving you emissions numbers then. Has nothing to do
with BSFC, but you'll have to look at your emission regulations to see if
the numbers they gave you are going to cause a problem with emissions
testing.
Chris
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2hk1j9Fe0hd8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hey Chris,
>
> He said the readings were on the (CO) meter if that makes a difference.
>
> I'm going to test tonight the fuel pressure to make sure it's getting
proper
> pressure to the rail. The R&R guys altered the fuel line slightly as it
was
> 'pinched' from them either taking the engine out or putting it back in.
> They, of course, said I did it and I didn't, unfortunately, take a
reference
> picture of the engine compartment before I gave it to them so I didn't
argue
> on that point.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:qy3tc.24320$zn.8406@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Hopefully they meant 0.44 and not 4.40 otherwise your engine would go
> > through approximately 70 gallons of fuel in an hour while making 120HP.
If
> > your numbers are that low, then watch the plugs after driving it for a
> > while. Some engines will "like" a BSFC number in the mid .40s, but most
> > passenger car engines usually run best at about .50 or so. My assumption
> > here is that the numbers they are giving you are BSFC. One thing that
> would
> > have been nice for them to do would have been to put exhaust temp probes
> on
> > each header tube coming out of the ports. This would have given you an
> idea
> > of the balance of fuel mixture between cylinders which would be a good
way
> > to test the injectors under running conditions.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2hjrsfFdpoedU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Ok, just called them up and asked about the numbers.
> > >
> > > He told me at idle the number was .35 and at full open throttle (as
much
> > as
> > > they pushed it) it was 4.40.
> > >
> > > He said these numbers were on the lean side.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:2hjpg1FdqgrlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
> 10
> > > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the site:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > > >
> > > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> > work
> > > or
> > > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
with BSFC, but you'll have to look at your emission regulations to see if
the numbers they gave you are going to cause a problem with emissions
testing.
Chris
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2hk1j9Fe0hd8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hey Chris,
>
> He said the readings were on the (CO) meter if that makes a difference.
>
> I'm going to test tonight the fuel pressure to make sure it's getting
proper
> pressure to the rail. The R&R guys altered the fuel line slightly as it
was
> 'pinched' from them either taking the engine out or putting it back in.
> They, of course, said I did it and I didn't, unfortunately, take a
reference
> picture of the engine compartment before I gave it to them so I didn't
argue
> on that point.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:qy3tc.24320$zn.8406@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Hopefully they meant 0.44 and not 4.40 otherwise your engine would go
> > through approximately 70 gallons of fuel in an hour while making 120HP.
If
> > your numbers are that low, then watch the plugs after driving it for a
> > while. Some engines will "like" a BSFC number in the mid .40s, but most
> > passenger car engines usually run best at about .50 or so. My assumption
> > here is that the numbers they are giving you are BSFC. One thing that
> would
> > have been nice for them to do would have been to put exhaust temp probes
> on
> > each header tube coming out of the ports. This would have given you an
> idea
> > of the balance of fuel mixture between cylinders which would be a good
way
> > to test the injectors under running conditions.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2hjrsfFdpoedU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Ok, just called them up and asked about the numbers.
> > >
> > > He told me at idle the number was .35 and at full open throttle (as
much
> > as
> > > they pushed it) it was 4.40.
> > >
> > > He said these numbers were on the lean side.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:2hjpg1FdqgrlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
> 10
> > > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the site:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > > >
> > > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> > work
> > > or
> > > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#102
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Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
Holy crap man!
They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
the system!
We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
mix besides an emissions machine....
Man oh man....
Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
have been spot on for mix.
The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
balances....
I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
>
> Here's the site:
>
> http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
>
> These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> Air/Fuel readings.
>
> It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable work or
> I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
>
> Bill
>
> > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
the system!
We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
mix besides an emissions machine....
Man oh man....
Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
have been spot on for mix.
The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
balances....
I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
>
> Here's the site:
>
> http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
>
> These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> Air/Fuel readings.
>
> It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable work or
> I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
>
> Bill
>
> > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
#103
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Posts: n/a
Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
Holy crap man!
They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
the system!
We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
mix besides an emissions machine....
Man oh man....
Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
have been spot on for mix.
The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
balances....
I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
>
> Here's the site:
>
> http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
>
> These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> Air/Fuel readings.
>
> It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable work or
> I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
>
> Bill
>
> > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
the system!
We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
mix besides an emissions machine....
Man oh man....
Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
have been spot on for mix.
The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
balances....
I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
>
> Here's the site:
>
> http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
>
> These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> Air/Fuel readings.
>
> It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable work or
> I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
>
> Bill
>
> > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
#104
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
Holy crap man!
They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
the system!
We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
mix besides an emissions machine....
Man oh man....
Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
have been spot on for mix.
The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
balances....
I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
>
> Here's the site:
>
> http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
>
> These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> Air/Fuel readings.
>
> It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable work or
> I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
>
> Bill
>
> > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
the system!
We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
mix besides an emissions machine....
Man oh man....
Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
have been spot on for mix.
The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
balances....
I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
>
> Here's the site:
>
> http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
>
> These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> Air/Fuel readings.
>
> It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable work or
> I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
>
> Bill
>
> > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
#105
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
Holy crap man!
They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
the system!
We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
mix besides an emissions machine....
Man oh man....
Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
have been spot on for mix.
The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
balances....
I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
>
> Here's the site:
>
> http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
>
> These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> Air/Fuel readings.
>
> It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable work or
> I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
>
> Bill
>
> > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
the system!
We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
mix besides an emissions machine....
Man oh man....
Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
have been spot on for mix.
The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
balances....
I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
>
> Here's the site:
>
> http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
>
> These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> Air/Fuel readings.
>
> It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable work or
> I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
>
> Bill
>
> > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
#106
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Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
Mike
What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
they do?
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> Holy crap man!
>
> They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> the system!
>
> We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
>
> With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> mix besides an emissions machine....
>
> Man oh man....
>
> Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
>
> Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> have been spot on for mix.
>
> The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
>
> So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
>
> What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> balances....
>
> I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> >
> > Here's the site:
> >
> > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> >
> > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > Air/Fuel readings.
> >
> > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
work or
> > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
they do?
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> Holy crap man!
>
> They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> the system!
>
> We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
>
> With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> mix besides an emissions machine....
>
> Man oh man....
>
> Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
>
> Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> have been spot on for mix.
>
> The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
>
> So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
>
> What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> balances....
>
> I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> >
> > Here's the site:
> >
> > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> >
> > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > Air/Fuel readings.
> >
> > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
work or
> > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
#107
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Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
Mike
What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
they do?
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> Holy crap man!
>
> They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> the system!
>
> We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
>
> With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> mix besides an emissions machine....
>
> Man oh man....
>
> Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
>
> Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> have been spot on for mix.
>
> The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
>
> So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
>
> What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> balances....
>
> I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> >
> > Here's the site:
> >
> > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> >
> > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > Air/Fuel readings.
> >
> > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
work or
> > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
they do?
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> Holy crap man!
>
> They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> the system!
>
> We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
>
> With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> mix besides an emissions machine....
>
> Man oh man....
>
> Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
>
> Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> have been spot on for mix.
>
> The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
>
> So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
>
> What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> balances....
>
> I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> >
> > Here's the site:
> >
> > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> >
> > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > Air/Fuel readings.
> >
> > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
work or
> > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
#108
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Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
Mike
What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
they do?
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> Holy crap man!
>
> They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> the system!
>
> We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
>
> With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> mix besides an emissions machine....
>
> Man oh man....
>
> Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
>
> Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> have been spot on for mix.
>
> The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
>
> So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
>
> What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> balances....
>
> I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> >
> > Here's the site:
> >
> > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> >
> > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > Air/Fuel readings.
> >
> > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
work or
> > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
they do?
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> Holy crap man!
>
> They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> the system!
>
> We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
>
> With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> mix besides an emissions machine....
>
> Man oh man....
>
> Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
>
> Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> have been spot on for mix.
>
> The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
>
> So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
>
> What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> balances....
>
> I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> >
> > Here's the site:
> >
> > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> >
> > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > Air/Fuel readings.
> >
> > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
work or
> > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
#109
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Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
Mike
What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
they do?
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> Holy crap man!
>
> They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> the system!
>
> We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
>
> With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> mix besides an emissions machine....
>
> Man oh man....
>
> Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
>
> Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> have been spot on for mix.
>
> The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
>
> So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
>
> What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> balances....
>
> I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> >
> > Here's the site:
> >
> > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> >
> > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > Air/Fuel readings.
> >
> > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
work or
> > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
they do?
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> Holy crap man!
>
> They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> the system!
>
> We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
>
> With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> mix besides an emissions machine....
>
> Man oh man....
>
> Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
>
> Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> have been spot on for mix.
>
> The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
>
> So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
>
> What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> balances....
>
> I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> >
> > Here's the site:
> >
> > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> >
> > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > Air/Fuel readings.
> >
> > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
work or
> > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
#110
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Re: Just had my engine dyno'd and air fuel ratio checked
Also, if I want to make sure my injectors are performing correctly, what
methodologies are used to test injectors? If I want to test injectors what
kind of place should I contact to make sure they are working?
You are giving me theories to the gas wash and it's helpful but you also
know my state of understanding, please extend the information by letting me
know what methodologies would provide a satisfactory result.
Thanks,
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2hk8r0Fe0rd4U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Mike
> What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
>
> They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
>
> Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> they do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > Holy crap man!
> >
> > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > the system!
> >
> > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> >
> > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > mix besides an emissions machine....
> >
> > Man oh man....
> >
> > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> >
> > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > have been spot on for mix.
> >
> > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> >
> > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> >
> > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > balances....
> >
> > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
10
> > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > >
> > > Here's the site:
> > >
> > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > >
> > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > >
> > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> work or
> > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
>
>
methodologies are used to test injectors? If I want to test injectors what
kind of place should I contact to make sure they are working?
You are giving me theories to the gas wash and it's helpful but you also
know my state of understanding, please extend the information by letting me
know what methodologies would provide a satisfactory result.
Thanks,
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2hk8r0Fe0rd4U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Mike
> What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
>
> They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
>
> Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> they do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > Holy crap man!
> >
> > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > the system!
> >
> > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> >
> > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > mix besides an emissions machine....
> >
> > Man oh man....
> >
> > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> >
> > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > have been spot on for mix.
> >
> > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> >
> > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> >
> > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > balances....
> >
> > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
10
> > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > >
> > > Here's the site:
> > >
> > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > >
> > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > >
> > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> work or
> > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
>
>