I have 31" tires on it already with just stock suspention, as you
already know there is very little clearance mabie an inch in front and
2 1/2 inchs in rear. im not going to go with any bigger tires but when
I do any off roading the tires get pushed into the finder flaires,
which really dosent hurt anything, but I think it would look a lot
better with alittle higher stance over the tires. would a body lift
be the way to go?? that would cure my drive train problems right?

thanks guys for the info...
Rich



On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:17:55 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>
>"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
>news:7mqo90p7a57lm74sgstgltpt9njnt7c8v8@4ax.com.. .
>> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
>> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
>> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
>> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
>> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
>> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>>
>> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
>> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
>> necessary just for 3"
>>
>> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>
>Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing springover
>conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers introduce
>a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that arean't
>easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
>
>I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift. They
>ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to the
>point of leaf failure.
>
>Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
>upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
>In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
>their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
>going taller.
>
>FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
>(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total junk
>(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
>
>Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a slip
>yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install the
>suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
>35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
>tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
>
>After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take a
>nice vacation!
>

 

I have 31" tires on it already with just stock suspention, as you
already know there is very little clearance mabie an inch in front and
2 1/2 inchs in rear. im not going to go with any bigger tires but when
I do any off roading the tires get pushed into the finder flaires,
which really dosent hurt anything, but I think it would look a lot
better with alittle higher stance over the tires. would a body lift
be the way to go?? that would cure my drive train problems right?

thanks guys for the info...
Rich



On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:17:55 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>
>"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
>news:7mqo90p7a57lm74sgstgltpt9njnt7c8v8@4ax.com.. .
>> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
>> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
>> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
>> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
>> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
>> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>>
>> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
>> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
>> necessary just for 3"
>>
>> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>
>Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing springover
>conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers introduce
>a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that arean't
>easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
>
>I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift. They
>ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to the
>point of leaf failure.
>
>Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
>upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
>In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
>their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
>going taller.
>
>FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
>(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total junk
>(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
>
>Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a slip
>yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install the
>suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
>35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
>tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
>
>After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take a
>nice vacation!
>

 

I have 31" tires on it already with just stock suspention, as you
already know there is very little clearance mabie an inch in front and
2 1/2 inchs in rear. im not going to go with any bigger tires but when
I do any off roading the tires get pushed into the finder flaires,
which really dosent hurt anything, but I think it would look a lot
better with alittle higher stance over the tires. would a body lift
be the way to go?? that would cure my drive train problems right?

thanks guys for the info...
Rich



On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:17:55 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>
>"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
>news:7mqo90p7a57lm74sgstgltpt9njnt7c8v8@4ax.com.. .
>> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
>> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
>> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
>> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
>> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
>> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>>
>> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
>> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
>> necessary just for 3"
>>
>> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>
>Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing springover
>conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers introduce
>a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that arean't
>easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
>
>I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift. They
>ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to the
>point of leaf failure.
>
>Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
>upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
>In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
>their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
>going taller.
>
>FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
>(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total junk
>(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
>
>Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a slip
>yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install the
>suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
>35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
>tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
>
>After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take a
>nice vacation!
>

 

Well, a body lift won't cure any angle problems... but it won't cause any
either. If you're mainly looking for a more aggressive look, and don't need
or want extra clearence, a small body lift (1"-1.5" and no more, imo) is a
good solution. Cheap to buy, easy to install. It would likely cure your
flair and fender rubbing problems.

Plus when/if you go with a suspension lift, you can keep the body lift and
the extra room it creates.
n.

"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
news:2v1q90hb4cs0p22r2kbdn3be0or5b1poun@4ax.com...
> I have 31" tires on it already with just stock suspention, as you
> already know there is very little clearance mabie an inch in front and
> 2 1/2 inchs in rear. im not going to go with any bigger tires but when
> I do any off roading the tires get pushed into the finder flaires,
> which really dosent hurt anything, but I think it would look a lot
> better with alittle higher stance over the tires. would a body lift
> be the way to go?? that would cure my drive train problems right?
>
> thanks guys for the info...
> Rich
>
>
>
> On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:17:55 -0600, "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
> >news:7mqo90p7a57lm74sgstgltpt9njnt7c8v8@4ax.com.. .
> >> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> >> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> >> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> >> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> >> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> >> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
> >>
> >> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> >> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> >> necessary just for 3"
> >>
> >> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rich
> >
> >Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing
springover
> >conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers
introduce
> >a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that
arean't
> >easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
> >
> >I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift.
They
> >ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to
the
> >point of leaf failure.
> >
> >Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
> >upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
> >In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
> >their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
> >going taller.
> >
> >FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
> >(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total
junk
> >(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
> >
> >Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a
slip
> >yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install
the
> >suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
> >35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
> >tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
> >
> >After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take
a
> >nice vacation!
> >
>

 

Well, a body lift won't cure any angle problems... but it won't cause any
either. If you're mainly looking for a more aggressive look, and don't need
or want extra clearence, a small body lift (1"-1.5" and no more, imo) is a
good solution. Cheap to buy, easy to install. It would likely cure your
flair and fender rubbing problems.

Plus when/if you go with a suspension lift, you can keep the body lift and
the extra room it creates.
n.

"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
news:2v1q90hb4cs0p22r2kbdn3be0or5b1poun@4ax.com...
> I have 31" tires on it already with just stock suspention, as you
> already know there is very little clearance mabie an inch in front and
> 2 1/2 inchs in rear. im not going to go with any bigger tires but when
> I do any off roading the tires get pushed into the finder flaires,
> which really dosent hurt anything, but I think it would look a lot
> better with alittle higher stance over the tires. would a body lift
> be the way to go?? that would cure my drive train problems right?
>
> thanks guys for the info...
> Rich
>
>
>
> On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:17:55 -0600, "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
> >news:7mqo90p7a57lm74sgstgltpt9njnt7c8v8@4ax.com.. .
> >> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> >> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> >> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> >> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> >> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> >> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
> >>
> >> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> >> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> >> necessary just for 3"
> >>
> >> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rich
> >
> >Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing
springover
> >conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers
introduce
> >a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that
arean't
> >easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
> >
> >I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift.
They
> >ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to
the
> >point of leaf failure.
> >
> >Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
> >upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
> >In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
> >their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
> >going taller.
> >
> >FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
> >(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total
junk
> >(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
> >
> >Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a
slip
> >yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install
the
> >suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
> >35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
> >tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
> >
> >After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take
a
> >nice vacation!
> >
>

 

Well, a body lift won't cure any angle problems... but it won't cause any
either. If you're mainly looking for a more aggressive look, and don't need
or want extra clearence, a small body lift (1"-1.5" and no more, imo) is a
good solution. Cheap to buy, easy to install. It would likely cure your
flair and fender rubbing problems.

Plus when/if you go with a suspension lift, you can keep the body lift and
the extra room it creates.
n.

"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
news:2v1q90hb4cs0p22r2kbdn3be0or5b1poun@4ax.com...
> I have 31" tires on it already with just stock suspention, as you
> already know there is very little clearance mabie an inch in front and
> 2 1/2 inchs in rear. im not going to go with any bigger tires but when
> I do any off roading the tires get pushed into the finder flaires,
> which really dosent hurt anything, but I think it would look a lot
> better with alittle higher stance over the tires. would a body lift
> be the way to go?? that would cure my drive train problems right?
>
> thanks guys for the info...
> Rich
>
>
>
> On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:17:55 -0600, "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
> >news:7mqo90p7a57lm74sgstgltpt9njnt7c8v8@4ax.com.. .
> >> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> >> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> >> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> >> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> >> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> >> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
> >>
> >> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> >> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> >> necessary just for 3"
> >>
> >> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rich
> >
> >Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing
springover
> >conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers
introduce
> >a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that
arean't
> >easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
> >
> >I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift.
They
> >ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to
the
> >point of leaf failure.
> >
> >Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
> >upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
> >In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
> >their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
> >going taller.
> >
> >FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
> >(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total
junk
> >(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
> >
> >Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a
slip
> >yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install
the
> >suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
> >35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
> >tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
> >
> >After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take
a
> >nice vacation!
> >
>

 

Well, a body lift won't cure any angle problems... but it won't cause any
either. If you're mainly looking for a more aggressive look, and don't need
or want extra clearence, a small body lift (1"-1.5" and no more, imo) is a
good solution. Cheap to buy, easy to install. It would likely cure your
flair and fender rubbing problems.

Plus when/if you go with a suspension lift, you can keep the body lift and
the extra room it creates.
n.

"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
news:2v1q90hb4cs0p22r2kbdn3be0or5b1poun@4ax.com...
> I have 31" tires on it already with just stock suspention, as you
> already know there is very little clearance mabie an inch in front and
> 2 1/2 inchs in rear. im not going to go with any bigger tires but when
> I do any off roading the tires get pushed into the finder flaires,
> which really dosent hurt anything, but I think it would look a lot
> better with alittle higher stance over the tires. would a body lift
> be the way to go?? that would cure my drive train problems right?
>
> thanks guys for the info...
> Rich
>
>
>
> On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:17:55 -0600, "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
> >news:7mqo90p7a57lm74sgstgltpt9njnt7c8v8@4ax.com.. .
> >> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> >> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> >> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> >> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> >> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> >> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
> >>
> >> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> >> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> >> necessary just for 3"
> >>
> >> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rich
> >
> >Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing
springover
> >conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers
introduce
> >a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that
arean't
> >easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
> >
> >I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift.
They
> >ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to
the
> >point of leaf failure.
> >
> >Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
> >upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
> >In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
> >their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
> >going taller.
> >
> >FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
> >(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total
junk
> >(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
> >
> >Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a
slip
> >yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install
the
> >suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
> >35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
> >tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
> >
> >After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take
a
> >nice vacation!
> >
>