jeep yj lift question
05-08-2004, 01:00 AM
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jeep yj lift question
I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
necessary just for 3"
Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
Thanks,
Rich
the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
necessary just for 3"
Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
Thanks,
Rich
05-08-2004, 01:24 AM
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Re: jeep yj lift question
Adding a leaf is probably the best bang for the buck. There are big
problems with axle wrap doing a spring over axle, and the only clearance
you gain is right there at the wheel, where hopefully you'll find rock
to hold you up.
Go ahead and buy the slip yoke conversion and constant velocity
universal joint, the three inch lift will dictate a longer driveshaft
anyway: http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/aasye99/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Rich wrote:
>
> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
problems with axle wrap doing a spring over axle, and the only clearance
you gain is right there at the wheel, where hopefully you'll find rock
to hold you up.
Go ahead and buy the slip yoke conversion and constant velocity
universal joint, the three inch lift will dictate a longer driveshaft
anyway: http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/aasye99/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rich wrote:
>
> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
05-08-2004, 01:24 AM
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Re: jeep yj lift question
Adding a leaf is probably the best bang for the buck. There are big
problems with axle wrap doing a spring over axle, and the only clearance
you gain is right there at the wheel, where hopefully you'll find rock
to hold you up.
Go ahead and buy the slip yoke conversion and constant velocity
universal joint, the three inch lift will dictate a longer driveshaft
anyway: http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/aasye99/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rich wrote:
>
> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
problems with axle wrap doing a spring over axle, and the only clearance
you gain is right there at the wheel, where hopefully you'll find rock
to hold you up.
Go ahead and buy the slip yoke conversion and constant velocity
universal joint, the three inch lift will dictate a longer driveshaft
anyway: http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/aasye99/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rich wrote:
>
> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
05-08-2004, 01:24 AM
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Re: jeep yj lift question
Adding a leaf is probably the best bang for the buck. There are big
problems with axle wrap doing a spring over axle, and the only clearance
you gain is right there at the wheel, where hopefully you'll find rock
to hold you up.
Go ahead and buy the slip yoke conversion and constant velocity
universal joint, the three inch lift will dictate a longer driveshaft
anyway: http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/aasye99/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rich wrote:
>
> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
problems with axle wrap doing a spring over axle, and the only clearance
you gain is right there at the wheel, where hopefully you'll find rock
to hold you up.
Go ahead and buy the slip yoke conversion and constant velocity
universal joint, the three inch lift will dictate a longer driveshaft
anyway: http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/aasye99/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rich wrote:
>
> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
05-08-2004, 01:24 AM
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Re: jeep yj lift question
Adding a leaf is probably the best bang for the buck. There are big
problems with axle wrap doing a spring over axle, and the only clearance
you gain is right there at the wheel, where hopefully you'll find rock
to hold you up.
Go ahead and buy the slip yoke conversion and constant velocity
universal joint, the three inch lift will dictate a longer driveshaft
anyway: http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/aasye99/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rich wrote:
>
> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
problems with axle wrap doing a spring over axle, and the only clearance
you gain is right there at the wheel, where hopefully you'll find rock
to hold you up.
Go ahead and buy the slip yoke conversion and constant velocity
universal joint, the three inch lift will dictate a longer driveshaft
anyway: http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/aasye99/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rich wrote:
>
> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
05-08-2004, 09:17 AM
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Re: jeep yj lift question
"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
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> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing springover
conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers introduce
a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that arean't
easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift. They
ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to the
point of leaf failure.
Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
going taller.
FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total junk
(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a slip
yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install the
suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take a
nice vacation!
05-08-2004, 09:17 AM
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Re: jeep yj lift question
"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
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> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing springover
conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers introduce
a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that arean't
easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift. They
ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to the
point of leaf failure.
Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
going taller.
FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total junk
(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a slip
yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install the
suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take a
nice vacation!
05-08-2004, 09:17 AM
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Re: jeep yj lift question
"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
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> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing springover
conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers introduce
a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that arean't
easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift. They
ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to the
point of leaf failure.
Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
going taller.
FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total junk
(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a slip
yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install the
suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take a
nice vacation!
05-08-2004, 09:17 AM
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Re: jeep yj lift question
"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
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> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>
> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
> necessary just for 3"
>
> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing springover
conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers introduce
a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that arean't
easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift. They
ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to the
point of leaf failure.
Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
going taller.
FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total junk
(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a slip
yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install the
suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take a
nice vacation!
05-08-2004, 12:18 PM
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Re: jeep yj lift question
I have 31" tires on it already with just stock suspention, as you
already know there is very little clearance mabie an inch in front and
2 1/2 inchs in rear. im not going to go with any bigger tires but when
I do any off roading the tires get pushed into the finder flaires,
which really dosent hurt anything, but I think it would look a lot
better with alittle higher stance over the tires. would a body lift
be the way to go?? that would cure my drive train problems right?
thanks guys for the info...
Rich
On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:17:55 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
>"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
>news:7mqo90p7a57lm74sgstgltpt9njnt7c8v8@4ax.com.. .
>> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
>> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
>> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
>> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
>> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
>> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>>
>> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
>> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
>> necessary just for 3"
>>
>> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>
>Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing springover
>conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers introduce
>a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that arean't
>easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
>
>I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift. They
>ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to the
>point of leaf failure.
>
>Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
>upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
>In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
>their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
>going taller.
>
>FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
>(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total junk
>(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
>
>Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a slip
>yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install the
>suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
>35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
>tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
>
>After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take a
>nice vacation!
>
already know there is very little clearance mabie an inch in front and
2 1/2 inchs in rear. im not going to go with any bigger tires but when
I do any off roading the tires get pushed into the finder flaires,
which really dosent hurt anything, but I think it would look a lot
better with alittle higher stance over the tires. would a body lift
be the way to go?? that would cure my drive train problems right?
thanks guys for the info...
Rich
On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:17:55 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
>"Rich" <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
>news:7mqo90p7a57lm74sgstgltpt9njnt7c8v8@4ax.com.. .
>> I have a '92 jeep yj and want to lift it a few inches. I've noticed
>> the leaf springs are mounted under the axles, if I had them mounted on
>> top of the axles it would give me a 2 or so inches just by doing that.
>> Is this a good idea or would it be easier and cheaper just to leave
>> them mounted where they are and buy a lift kit. If so are the 3" add
>> a leaf lifts good? ive seen them on ebay for pretty cheap???
>>
>> I've also been told that if I lift it at all I need to put the drive
>> line back to its orginal angle or it will tear it up. Is this
>> necessary just for 3"
>>
>> Any other info in this matter would be greatly appriciated...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>
>Unless you have a good local 4x4 shop that's experienced at doing springover
>conversions, I'd advise against it. While compelling, springovers introduce
>a host of issues, like axlewrap, driveline angles, roll, etc. that arean't
>easily overcome, certainly not with the stock springs.
>
>I'd stronlgly advise against any form of add-a-leaf for the main lift. They
>ride like $#!t and fatigue the original springs in short order, often to the
>point of leaf failure.
>
>Tner are a number of excellent lifts out there, but selecting obe depends
>upon what you plan to do with the Jeep, tires size, etc.
>In general, and per my personal experience, most folks who go "shgort" on
>their first lift tend to regret it and end up either selling the Jeep or
>going taller.
>
>FWIW, after nine years my '94 YJ is now sitting on its 3rd suspension
>(Rubicon 4.5" kit) which is fabulous. The previous 3 ranged from total junk
>(Rancho 2.5" pile of trash), to ok, but too short (Superlift 3.5").
>
>Also, as Bill noted, just accept the fact that you'll have to install a slip
>yoke eliminator & new read driveshaft and get that done when you install the
>suspension. Other things to consider, if you have a manual YJ (or Dana
>35-cursed TJ, for that matter) its 3.07 gear ratio is awful with larger
>tires. A re-gear should be in your plans.
>
>After considering all this...you may just want to leave it alone and take a
>nice vacation!
>