Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Hi,
I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE, Rio
Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models? Any
opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Gary

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

I have a 95 YJ SE model.. It has NO options.. No AC, No power steering..
Manual everything... It didn't even come with a stereo.. The Rio Grande, if
I am not mistaken was basically an SE model that all maxed on options.. AC,
Power Everything, and different wheels...Hope this helps..

Ben
95 YJ 2.5L
<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
> in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
> look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
> understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE, Rio
> Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models? Any
> opinions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Gary
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

I have a 95 YJ SE model.. It has NO options.. No AC, No power steering..
Manual everything... It didn't even come with a stereo.. The Rio Grande, if
I am not mistaken was basically an SE model that all maxed on options.. AC,
Power Everything, and different wheels...Hope this helps..

Ben
95 YJ 2.5L
<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1112563531.075876.122280@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
> I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
> in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
> look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
> understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE, Rio
> Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models? Any
> opinions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Gary
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

I have a 95 YJ SE model.. It has NO options.. No AC, No power steering..
Manual everything... It didn't even come with a stereo.. The Rio Grande, if
I am not mistaken was basically an SE model that all maxed on options.. AC,
Power Everything, and different wheels...Hope this helps..

Ben
95 YJ 2.5L
<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1112563531.075876.122280@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
> I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
> in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
> look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
> understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE, Rio
> Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models? Any
> opinions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Gary
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

All the differn't wrangler for these years are just trim levels as i
understand. Sahara for example would have nicer seats, stereo, A/C and a 4.0
as best i can remember.

None of these trim levels indicates a bigger differentail or limited slip or
anything like that.

I hope iam not wrong this is what i remember being told.

Nothing too look out for then any other jeep, ball joints, u joints. The 91
and later has multiport fuel injection and the AX 5 or AX 15 trans. Change
all fluids when you get it.

Make sure no fluid is coming from the bell housing of the transmission,
might mean at the least a leaking rear main seal and at worst (my wrangler)
a leaking clutch slave cylinder. The vacuum system for 4WD can be
problematic. A manual disconnect called a posi lok can be bought at
www.quadratec.com bypassing the vacuum system entirley.
Ask for maintenance records.

I would try and get one with the 4.0. I like mine MPG around 18/19 and when
it fails, plan on using a 4.2 crank and connecting rods along with a
differnt cam making it a 4.5 L


-Brian
O|||||O 91 YJ 4.0


<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1112563531.075876.122280@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
> I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
> in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
> look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
> understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE, Rio
> Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models? Any
> opinions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Gary
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

All the differn't wrangler for these years are just trim levels as i
understand. Sahara for example would have nicer seats, stereo, A/C and a 4.0
as best i can remember.

None of these trim levels indicates a bigger differentail or limited slip or
anything like that.

I hope iam not wrong this is what i remember being told.

Nothing too look out for then any other jeep, ball joints, u joints. The 91
and later has multiport fuel injection and the AX 5 or AX 15 trans. Change
all fluids when you get it.

Make sure no fluid is coming from the bell housing of the transmission,
might mean at the least a leaking rear main seal and at worst (my wrangler)
a leaking clutch slave cylinder. The vacuum system for 4WD can be
problematic. A manual disconnect called a posi lok can be bought at
www.quadratec.com bypassing the vacuum system entirley.
Ask for maintenance records.

I would try and get one with the 4.0. I like mine MPG around 18/19 and when
it fails, plan on using a 4.2 crank and connecting rods along with a
differnt cam making it a 4.5 L


-Brian
O|||||O 91 YJ 4.0


<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1112563531.075876.122280@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
> I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
> in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
> look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
> understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE, Rio
> Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models? Any
> opinions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Gary
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

All the differn't wrangler for these years are just trim levels as i
understand. Sahara for example would have nicer seats, stereo, A/C and a 4.0
as best i can remember.

None of these trim levels indicates a bigger differentail or limited slip or
anything like that.

I hope iam not wrong this is what i remember being told.

Nothing too look out for then any other jeep, ball joints, u joints. The 91
and later has multiport fuel injection and the AX 5 or AX 15 trans. Change
all fluids when you get it.

Make sure no fluid is coming from the bell housing of the transmission,
might mean at the least a leaking rear main seal and at worst (my wrangler)
a leaking clutch slave cylinder. The vacuum system for 4WD can be
problematic. A manual disconnect called a posi lok can be bought at
www.quadratec.com bypassing the vacuum system entirley.
Ask for maintenance records.

I would try and get one with the 4.0. I like mine MPG around 18/19 and when
it fails, plan on using a 4.2 crank and connecting rods along with a
differnt cam making it a 4.5 L


-Brian
O|||||O 91 YJ 4.0


<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1112563531.075876.122280@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
> I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
> in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
> look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
> understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE, Rio
> Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models? Any
> opinions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Gary
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Thanks for all the info! I would be looking at the nicer Jeep model
problably with ps, pb, ac, tilt, etc etc... Which model would that be?
(Out of the ALL models avaliable) Are the Ax 5 and Ax 15 trans any
good? I'm not interested in the autos at all. Just the manuals. Thanks
again,

Gary

Brian wrote:
> All the differn't wrangler for these years are just trim levels as i
> understand. Sahara for example would have nicer seats, stereo, A/C
and a 4.0
> as best i can remember.
>
> None of these trim levels indicates a bigger differentail or limited
slip or
> anything like that.
>
> I hope iam not wrong this is what i remember being told.
>
> Nothing too look out for then any other jeep, ball joints, u joints.
The 91
> and later has multiport fuel injection and the AX 5 or AX 15 trans.
Change
> all fluids when you get it.
>
> Make sure no fluid is coming from the bell housing of the
transmission,
> might mean at the least a leaking rear main seal and at worst (my
wrangler)
> a leaking clutch slave cylinder. The vacuum system for 4WD can be
> problematic. A manual disconnect called a posi lok can be bought at
> www.quadratec.com bypassing the vacuum system entirley.
> Ask for maintenance records.
>
> I would try and get one with the 4.0. I like mine MPG around 18/19
and when
> it fails, plan on using a 4.2 crank and connecting rods along with a
> differnt cam making it a 4.5 L
>
>
> -Brian
> O|||||O 91 YJ 4.0
>
>
> <waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112563531.075876.122280@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi,
> > I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95
Wrangler
> > in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should
I
> > look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
> > understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE,
Rio
> > Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models?
Any
> > opinions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Gary
> >

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Thanks for all the info! I would be looking at the nicer Jeep model
problably with ps, pb, ac, tilt, etc etc... Which model would that be?
(Out of the ALL models avaliable) Are the Ax 5 and Ax 15 trans any
good? I'm not interested in the autos at all. Just the manuals. Thanks
again,

Gary

Brian wrote:
> All the differn't wrangler for these years are just trim levels as i
> understand. Sahara for example would have nicer seats, stereo, A/C
and a 4.0
> as best i can remember.
>
> None of these trim levels indicates a bigger differentail or limited
slip or
> anything like that.
>
> I hope iam not wrong this is what i remember being told.
>
> Nothing too look out for then any other jeep, ball joints, u joints.
The 91
> and later has multiport fuel injection and the AX 5 or AX 15 trans.
Change
> all fluids when you get it.
>
> Make sure no fluid is coming from the bell housing of the
transmission,
> might mean at the least a leaking rear main seal and at worst (my
wrangler)
> a leaking clutch slave cylinder. The vacuum system for 4WD can be
> problematic. A manual disconnect called a posi lok can be bought at
> www.quadratec.com bypassing the vacuum system entirley.
> Ask for maintenance records.
>
> I would try and get one with the 4.0. I like mine MPG around 18/19
and when
> it fails, plan on using a 4.2 crank and connecting rods along with a
> differnt cam making it a 4.5 L
>
>
> -Brian
> O|||||O 91 YJ 4.0
>
>
> <waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112563531.075876.122280@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi,
> > I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95
Wrangler
> > in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should
I
> > look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
> > understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE,
Rio
> > Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models?
Any
> > opinions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Gary
> >

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Thanks for all the info! I would be looking at the nicer Jeep model
problably with ps, pb, ac, tilt, etc etc... Which model would that be?
(Out of the ALL models avaliable) Are the Ax 5 and Ax 15 trans any
good? I'm not interested in the autos at all. Just the manuals. Thanks
again,

Gary

Brian wrote:
> All the differn't wrangler for these years are just trim levels as i
> understand. Sahara for example would have nicer seats, stereo, A/C
and a 4.0
> as best i can remember.
>
> None of these trim levels indicates a bigger differentail or limited
slip or
> anything like that.
>
> I hope iam not wrong this is what i remember being told.
>
> Nothing too look out for then any other jeep, ball joints, u joints.
The 91
> and later has multiport fuel injection and the AX 5 or AX 15 trans.
Change
> all fluids when you get it.
>
> Make sure no fluid is coming from the bell housing of the
transmission,
> might mean at the least a leaking rear main seal and at worst (my
wrangler)
> a leaking clutch slave cylinder. The vacuum system for 4WD can be
> problematic. A manual disconnect called a posi lok can be bought at
> www.quadratec.com bypassing the vacuum system entirley.
> Ask for maintenance records.
>
> I would try and get one with the 4.0. I like mine MPG around 18/19
and when
> it fails, plan on using a 4.2 crank and connecting rods along with a
> differnt cam making it a 4.5 L
>
>
> -Brian
> O|||||O 91 YJ 4.0
>
>
> <waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112563531.075876.122280@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi,
> > I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95
Wrangler
> > in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should
I
> > look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
> > understand that there are several different models avaliable (SE,
Rio
> > Grande, Sahara) what are the differences in each of these models?
Any
> > opinions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Gary
> >

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
trannie?

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
trannie?

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
trannie?

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

It's a pretty sound Japanese unit. If you are going to put a big lift on
then you might want to change it, but by that point you will have replaced
everything below the floor !

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> trannie?
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

It's a pretty sound Japanese unit. If you are going to put a big lift on
then you might want to change it, but by that point you will have replaced
everything below the floor !

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1112578931.399544.54620@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> trannie?
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

It's a pretty sound Japanese unit. If you are going to put a big lift on
then you might want to change it, but by that point you will have replaced
everything below the floor !

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1112578931.399544.54620@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> trannie?
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

waterboy44@mail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
> in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
> look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
I would go with a TJ, which means post 97. 99 is the year that they
got everything right. This gives you airbags, superior rear seat
seatbelts, and coil spring suspension, but still has the fuel injected
inline six which should give you 200,000 miles.

If airbags and seatbelts are not that important to you (an absolute
must for the drivers in my family) you still need to consider the coil
springs. I do not know about the YJ, but my 49 with leafs is a battle
ship to turn. The TJ can 'turn a square corner' plus stepping up on
curbs or going over those silly little bumps at the nose of parking
spaces is no bother at all.

A fair criticism of the TY is that you give up being able to fold the
window down.

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

waterboy44@mail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
> in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
> look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
I would go with a TJ, which means post 97. 99 is the year that they
got everything right. This gives you airbags, superior rear seat
seatbelts, and coil spring suspension, but still has the fuel injected
inline six which should give you 200,000 miles.

If airbags and seatbelts are not that important to you (an absolute
must for the drivers in my family) you still need to consider the coil
springs. I do not know about the YJ, but my 49 with leafs is a battle
ship to turn. The TJ can 'turn a square corner' plus stepping up on
curbs or going over those silly little bumps at the nose of parking
spaces is no bother at all.

A fair criticism of the TY is that you give up being able to fold the
window down.

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

waterboy44@mail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I currently own a 79 Jeep Cj-5 and am looking to buy a 91-95 Wrangler
> in the next few months. I was wondering what sort of things should I
> look for on these Jeeps? Do they have any notorious problems? I
I would go with a TJ, which means post 97. 99 is the year that they
got everything right. This gives you airbags, superior rear seat
seatbelts, and coil spring suspension, but still has the fuel injected
inline six which should give you 200,000 miles.

If airbags and seatbelts are not that important to you (an absolute
must for the drivers in my family) you still need to consider the coil
springs. I do not know about the YJ, but my 49 with leafs is a battle
ship to turn. The TJ can 'turn a square corner' plus stepping up on
curbs or going over those silly little bumps at the nose of parking
spaces is no bother at all.

A fair criticism of the TY is that you give up being able to fold the
window down.

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Oddly enough, that stuff about all the Wrangler differences being in
trim packages and not where it matters sounds distressingly close to a
book I'm now reading: "The Decline And Fall of the American Automobile
Industry" (Brock Yates, 1983). In that book Yates excoriates the Big
Three in general (AMC was too poor even then to be nimble in the design
department) and GM in particular for ignoring public buying trends
around 1980 in sporty, economical, compact cars and instead pigheadedly
adding highly profitable trim packages with gobs of chrome to bloated,
ugly sheetmetal hiding flaccid, antiquated running gear. _Optional_
"Nicer seats, stereo and A/C" is an example he uses over and over.

Some things never change it seems.


Brian wrote:

> All the differn't wrangler for these years are just trim levels as i
> understand. Sahara for example would have nicer seats, stereo, A/C and a 4.0
> as best i can remember.
>
> None of these trim levels indicates a bigger differentail or limited slip or
> anything like that.
>
> I hope iam not wrong this is what i remember being told.
[snip]

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Oddly enough, that stuff about all the Wrangler differences being in
trim packages and not where it matters sounds distressingly close to a
book I'm now reading: "The Decline And Fall of the American Automobile
Industry" (Brock Yates, 1983). In that book Yates excoriates the Big
Three in general (AMC was too poor even then to be nimble in the design
department) and GM in particular for ignoring public buying trends
around 1980 in sporty, economical, compact cars and instead pigheadedly
adding highly profitable trim packages with gobs of chrome to bloated,
ugly sheetmetal hiding flaccid, antiquated running gear. _Optional_
"Nicer seats, stereo and A/C" is an example he uses over and over.

Some things never change it seems.


Brian wrote:

> All the differn't wrangler for these years are just trim levels as i
> understand. Sahara for example would have nicer seats, stereo, A/C and a 4.0
> as best i can remember.
>
> None of these trim levels indicates a bigger differentail or limited slip or
> anything like that.
>
> I hope iam not wrong this is what i remember being told.
[snip]

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Oddly enough, that stuff about all the Wrangler differences being in
trim packages and not where it matters sounds distressingly close to a
book I'm now reading: "The Decline And Fall of the American Automobile
Industry" (Brock Yates, 1983). In that book Yates excoriates the Big
Three in general (AMC was too poor even then to be nimble in the design
department) and GM in particular for ignoring public buying trends
around 1980 in sporty, economical, compact cars and instead pigheadedly
adding highly profitable trim packages with gobs of chrome to bloated,
ugly sheetmetal hiding flaccid, antiquated running gear. _Optional_
"Nicer seats, stereo and A/C" is an example he uses over and over.

Some things never change it seems.


Brian wrote:

> All the differn't wrangler for these years are just trim levels as i
> understand. Sahara for example would have nicer seats, stereo, A/C and a 4.0
> as best i can remember.
>
> None of these trim levels indicates a bigger differentail or limited slip or
> anything like that.
>
> I hope iam not wrong this is what i remember being told.
[snip]

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Fine tranny, alot better then it's french pedacessor, but change the fluid
when you get it. As you don't know who did what to it. Running the YJ
through water can result in water leaking in contaiminating the fluid. I am
replacing mine soon with a salvage unit for about $500. The TJ is alot
better with the coil springs, if you get a skyjacker 2.5 in suspension kit
for example, the YJ it will ride pretty nice.

-Brian

O|||||O YJ 4.0

<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1112578931.399544.54620@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> trannie?
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Fine tranny, alot better then it's french pedacessor, but change the fluid
when you get it. As you don't know who did what to it. Running the YJ
through water can result in water leaking in contaiminating the fluid. I am
replacing mine soon with a salvage unit for about $500. The TJ is alot
better with the coil springs, if you get a skyjacker 2.5 in suspension kit
for example, the YJ it will ride pretty nice.

-Brian

O|||||O YJ 4.0

<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1112578931.399544.54620@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> trannie?
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

Fine tranny, alot better then it's french pedacessor, but change the fluid
when you get it. As you don't know who did what to it. Running the YJ
through water can result in water leaking in contaiminating the fluid. I am
replacing mine soon with a salvage unit for about $500. The TJ is alot
better with the coil springs, if you get a skyjacker 2.5 in suspension kit
for example, the YJ it will ride pretty nice.

-Brian

O|||||O YJ 4.0

<waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> trannie?
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

You can always pull the stoopid button vent on the tranny and put a
piece of gas line in the hole to make a nipple for a high water line on
the tranny like the t-case and diffs have.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Brian wrote:
>
> Fine tranny, alot better then it's french pedacessor, but change the fluid
> when you get it. As you don't know who did what to it. Running the YJ
> through water can result in water leaking in contaiminating the fluid. I am
> replacing mine soon with a salvage unit for about $500. The TJ is alot
> better with the coil springs, if you get a skyjacker 2.5 in suspension kit
> for example, the YJ it will ride pretty nice.
>
> -Brian
>
> O|||||O YJ 4.0
>
> <waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112578931.399544.54620@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> > trannie?
> >

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

You can always pull the stoopid button vent on the tranny and put a
piece of gas line in the hole to make a nipple for a high water line on
the tranny like the t-case and diffs have.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Brian wrote:
>
> Fine tranny, alot better then it's french pedacessor, but change the fluid
> when you get it. As you don't know who did what to it. Running the YJ
> through water can result in water leaking in contaiminating the fluid. I am
> replacing mine soon with a salvage unit for about $500. The TJ is alot
> better with the coil springs, if you get a skyjacker 2.5 in suspension kit
> for example, the YJ it will ride pretty nice.
>
> -Brian
>
> O|||||O YJ 4.0
>
> <waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112578931.399544.54620@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> > trannie?
> >

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

You can always pull the stoopid button vent on the tranny and put a
piece of gas line in the hole to make a nipple for a high water line on
the tranny like the t-case and diffs have.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Brian wrote:
>
> Fine tranny, alot better then it's french pedacessor, but change the fluid
> when you get it. As you don't know who did what to it. Running the YJ
> through water can result in water leaking in contaiminating the fluid. I am
> replacing mine soon with a salvage unit for about $500. The TJ is alot
> better with the coil springs, if you get a skyjacker 2.5 in suspension kit
> for example, the YJ it will ride pretty nice.
>
> -Brian
>
> O|||||O YJ 4.0
>
> <waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112578931.399544.54620@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> > trannie?
> >

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

You can always pull the stoopid button vent on the tranny and put a
piece of gas line in the hole to make a nipple for a high water line on
the tranny like the t-case and diffs have.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Brian wrote:
>
> Fine tranny, alot better then it's french pedacessor, but change the fluid
> when you get it. As you don't know who did what to it. Running the YJ
> through water can result in water leaking in contaiminating the fluid. I am
> replacing mine soon with a salvage unit for about $500. The TJ is alot
> better with the coil springs, if you get a skyjacker 2.5 in suspension kit
> for example, the YJ it will ride pretty nice.
>
> -Brian
>
> O|||||O YJ 4.0
>
> <waterboy44@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112578931.399544.54620@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Actually I will be buying the 6 cylinder, so how good is the AX 15
> > trannie?
> >

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:14:09 -0400, Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Oddly enough, that stuff about all the Wrangler differences being in
> trim packages and not where it matters sounds distressingly close to a
> book I'm now reading: "The Decline And Fall of the American Automobile
> Industry" (Brock Yates, 1983). In that book Yates excoriates the Big
> Three in general (AMC was too poor even then to be nimble in the design
> department) and GM in particular for ignoring public buying trends
> around 1980 in sporty, economical, compact cars and instead pigheadedly
> adding highly profitable trim packages with gobs of chrome to bloated,
> ugly sheetmetal hiding flaccid, antiquated running gear. _Optional_
> "Nicer seats, stereo and A/C" is an example he uses over and over.
>
> Some things never change it seems.

Think about it, though. Who is the majority of the market? Not the
mechanics. What does the majority of the market know about the
powertrain? Almost nothing (they know a bigger number for HP and
smaller for MPG is better, but that's about it). What does the
majority of the market know about trim and chrome? Everything. So
where are they going to put their money? Where they see it having
more value, and that's in the trim. The educated few will
base decisions on the mechanical design and construction. This is
just basic business, and it doesn't apply just to cars.

-D

--
"640K ought to be enough for anybody" -Bill Gates, 1981

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Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:14:09 -0400, Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Oddly enough, that stuff about all the Wrangler differences being in
> trim packages and not where it matters sounds distressingly close to a
> book I'm now reading: "The Decline And Fall of the American Automobile
> Industry" (Brock Yates, 1983). In that book Yates excoriates the Big
> Three in general (AMC was too poor even then to be nimble in the design
> department) and GM in particular for ignoring public buying trends
> around 1980 in sporty, economical, compact cars and instead pigheadedly
> adding highly profitable trim packages with gobs of chrome to bloated,
> ugly sheetmetal hiding flaccid, antiquated running gear. _Optional_
> "Nicer seats, stereo and A/C" is an example he uses over and over.
>
> Some things never change it seems.

Think about it, though. Who is the majority of the market? Not the
mechanics. What does the majority of the market know about the
powertrain? Almost nothing (they know a bigger number for HP and
smaller for MPG is better, but that's about it). What does the
majority of the market know about trim and chrome? Everything. So
where are they going to put their money? Where they see it having
more value, and that's in the trim. The educated few will
base decisions on the mechanical design and construction. This is
just basic business, and it doesn't apply just to cars.

-D

--
"640K ought to be enough for anybody" -Bill Gates, 1981

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:14:09 -0400, Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Oddly enough, that stuff about all the Wrangler differences being in
> trim packages and not where it matters sounds distressingly close to a
> book I'm now reading: "The Decline And Fall of the American Automobile
> Industry" (Brock Yates, 1983). In that book Yates excoriates the Big
> Three in general (AMC was too poor even then to be nimble in the design
> department) and GM in particular for ignoring public buying trends
> around 1980 in sporty, economical, compact cars and instead pigheadedly
> adding highly profitable trim packages with gobs of chrome to bloated,
> ugly sheetmetal hiding flaccid, antiquated running gear. _Optional_
> "Nicer seats, stereo and A/C" is an example he uses over and over.
>
> Some things never change it seems.

Think about it, though. Who is the majority of the market? Not the
mechanics. What does the majority of the market know about the
powertrain? Almost nothing (they know a bigger number for HP and
smaller for MPG is better, but that's about it). What does the
majority of the market know about trim and chrome? Everything. So
where are they going to put their money? Where they see it having
more value, and that's in the trim. The educated few will
base decisions on the mechanical design and construction. This is
just basic business, and it doesn't apply just to cars.

-D

--
"640K ought to be enough for anybody" -Bill Gates, 1981

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:14:09 -0400, Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Oddly enough, that stuff about all the Wrangler differences being in
> trim packages and not where it matters sounds distressingly close to a
> book I'm now reading: "The Decline And Fall of the American Automobile
> Industry" (Brock Yates, 1983). In that book Yates excoriates the Big
> Three in general (AMC was too poor even then to be nimble in the design
> department) and GM in particular for ignoring public buying trends
> around 1980 in sporty, economical, compact cars and instead pigheadedly
> adding highly profitable trim packages with gobs of chrome to bloated,
> ugly sheetmetal hiding flaccid, antiquated running gear. _Optional_
> "Nicer seats, stereo and A/C" is an example he uses over and over.
>
> Some things never change it seems.

Think about it, though. Who is the majority of the market? Not the
mechanics. What does the majority of the market know about the
powertrain? Almost nothing (they know a bigger number for HP and
smaller for MPG is better, but that's about it). What does the
majority of the market know about trim and chrome? Everything. So
where are they going to put their money? Where they see it having
more value, and that's in the trim. The educated few will
base decisions on the mechanical design and construction. This is
just basic business, and it doesn't apply just to cars.

-D

--
"640K ought to be enough for anybody" -Bill Gates, 1981

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

On 4 Apr 2005 03:11:27 -0700, jcwelch@hal-pc.org wrote:

> A fair criticism of the TY is that you give up being able to fold the
> window down.

Are you referring to the windshield? My owners manual ('05 TJ)
explains how to fold the windshield down, and the windshild and hood
have the brackets for tying it securely.

-D

--
The Lord detests all the proud of heart.
Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.
Proverbs 16:7

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Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

On 4 Apr 2005 03:11:27 -0700, jcwelch@hal-pc.org wrote:

> A fair criticism of the TY is that you give up being able to fold the
> window down.

Are you referring to the windshield? My owners manual ('05 TJ)
explains how to fold the windshield down, and the windshild and hood
have the brackets for tying it securely.

-D

--
The Lord detests all the proud of heart.
Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.
Proverbs 16:7

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

On 4 Apr 2005 03:11:27 -0700, jcwelch@hal-pc.org wrote:

> A fair criticism of the TY is that you give up being able to fold the
> window down.

Are you referring to the windshield? My owners manual ('05 TJ)
explains how to fold the windshield down, and the windshild and hood
have the brackets for tying it securely.

-D

--
The Lord detests all the proud of heart.
Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.
Proverbs 16:7

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

On 4 Apr 2005 03:11:27 -0700, jcwelch@hal-pc.org wrote:

> A fair criticism of the TY is that you give up being able to fold the
> window down.

Are you referring to the windshield? My owners manual ('05 TJ)
explains how to fold the windshield down, and the windshild and hood
have the brackets for tying it securely.

-D

--
The Lord detests all the proud of heart.
Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.
Proverbs 16:7

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

I cannot belive I said "TY". It was early and I was working on my
first cup of cofee.

What I meant was that one day I noticed that on my 99 with the
windshield wipers where they are they would have to be removed from the
cowling to fold down the front windshield, or else take the glass out
of the windshield, which would be eclectic to say the least.

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

I cannot belive I said "TY". It was early and I was working on my
first cup of cofee.

What I meant was that one day I noticed that on my 99 with the
windshield wipers where they are they would have to be removed from the
cowling to fold down the front windshield, or else take the glass out
of the windshield, which would be eclectic to say the least.

Re: Jeep Wrangler Opinins needed
 

I cannot belive I said "TY". It was early and I was working on my
first cup of cofee.

What I meant was that one day I noticed that on my 99 with the
windshield wipers where they are they would have to be removed from the
cowling to fold down the front windshield, or else take the glass out
of the windshield, which would be eclectic to say the least.