Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
01-10-2004, 05:11 PM
#11
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
manufacturers continue to see them?
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
> I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
> left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
> welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>
> David C. Moller wrote:
> > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
> > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
the
> >>torx-stuff. :)
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> >
>
vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
manufacturers continue to see them?
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
> I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
> left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
> welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>
> David C. Moller wrote:
> > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
> > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
the
> >>torx-stuff. :)
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> >
>
01-10-2004, 05:11 PM
#12
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
manufacturers continue to see them?
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
> I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
> left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
> welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>
> David C. Moller wrote:
> > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
> > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
the
> >>torx-stuff. :)
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> >
>
vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
manufacturers continue to see them?
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
> I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
> left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
> welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>
> David C. Moller wrote:
> > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
> > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
the
> >>torx-stuff. :)
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> >
>
01-10-2004, 05:11 PM
#13
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
manufacturers continue to see them?
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
> I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
> left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
> welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>
> David C. Moller wrote:
> > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
> > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
the
> >>torx-stuff. :)
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> >
>
vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
manufacturers continue to see them?
"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
> I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
> left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
> welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>
> David C. Moller wrote:
> > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
> > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
the
> >>torx-stuff. :)
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> >
>
01-10-2004, 07:14 PM
#14
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Because they work better in automatic assembly equipement
JeePenn wrote:
> Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
> vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
> originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
> you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
> head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
> new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
> Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
> head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
> manufacturers continue to see them?
>
>
>
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
>
>>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>>
>>David C. Moller wrote:
>>
>>>I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>>
>>>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
>>><jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
>
> the
>
>>>>torx-stuff. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>
>
>
JeePenn wrote:
> Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
> vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
> originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
> you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
> head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
> new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
> Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
> head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
> manufacturers continue to see them?
>
>
>
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
>
>>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>>
>>David C. Moller wrote:
>>
>>>I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>>
>>>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
>>><jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
>
> the
>
>>>>torx-stuff. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>
>
>
01-10-2004, 07:14 PM
#15
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Because they work better in automatic assembly equipement
JeePenn wrote:
> Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
> vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
> originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
> you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
> head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
> new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
> Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
> head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
> manufacturers continue to see them?
>
>
>
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
>
>>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>>
>>David C. Moller wrote:
>>
>>>I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>>
>>>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
>>><jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
>
> the
>
>>>>torx-stuff. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>
>
>
JeePenn wrote:
> Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
> vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
> originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
> you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
> head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
> new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
> Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
> head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
> manufacturers continue to see them?
>
>
>
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
>
>>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>>
>>David C. Moller wrote:
>>
>>>I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>>
>>>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
>>><jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
>
> the
>
>>>>torx-stuff. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>
>
>
01-10-2004, 07:14 PM
#16
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Because they work better in automatic assembly equipement
JeePenn wrote:
> Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
> vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
> originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
> you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
> head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
> new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
> Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
> head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
> manufacturers continue to see them?
>
>
>
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
>
>>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>>
>>David C. Moller wrote:
>>
>>>I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>>
>>>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
>>><jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
>
> the
>
>>>>torx-stuff. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>
>
>
JeePenn wrote:
> Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
> vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I
> originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess
> you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx
> head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my
> new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question:
> Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex
> head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car
> manufacturers continue to see them?
>
>
>
> "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net...
>
>>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>>
>>David C. Moller wrote:
>>
>>>I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>>>
>>>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford"
>>><jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget
>
> the
>
>>>>torx-stuff. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>
>
>
01-11-2004, 06:29 AM
#17
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
wrote:
>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them
than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits,
all bets are off.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them
than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits,
all bets are off.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
01-11-2004, 06:29 AM
#18
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
wrote:
>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them
than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits,
all bets are off.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them
than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits,
all bets are off.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
01-11-2004, 06:29 AM
#19
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
wrote:
>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them
than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits,
all bets are off.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them
than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits,
all bets are off.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
01-11-2004, 08:25 AM
#20
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Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Hex heads tend to be a lot deeper than torx though.
Dave Milne
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:epc2001r006f10fmbjfg48lrsc2no7r28g@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
> >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
> >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>
> If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them
> than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits,
> all bets are off.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
Dave Milne
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:epc2001r006f10fmbjfg48lrsc2no7r28g@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
> >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc
> >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads?
>
> If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them
> than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits,
> all bets are off.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51