RoyJ

Key thing on tie downs is STURDY. You want to be able to hit something
fairly hard with the tow vehicle and not have the Jeep come cruising by
you. If you use the D rings with a ****** strap, I suspect that should
qualify. (If not, you are asking for the D ring to get projected like a
missle) You would like to have the tie down chains going to D rings on
the trailer at around 30 to 45 degrees from the horizontal. Since Jeep
bumpers are about 12' apart, that might be a bit tight on a 16' trailer.
I'd probably go for some convienient frame holes a couple feet from the
bumpers. If you can't spead them out to the side, you will have to cross
tie it (right side of Jeep to left side of trailer).

IMHO I still prefer to fasten the wheels down and let the Jeep
suspension flex but no one else seems to see it that way. When you hook
to the frame you have to crank it down tight enough to take all the
wiggle out of the suspension, don't let it loosen, tighten, jerk etc.

For tie downs, check out www.northentool.com Item# 127287
"Buyers 1/2in. Heavy Duty Forged D-Ring"
For chain, do not use the hardware store Grade 30 "proof", use the grade
43 or 70.

Andy wrote:
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>>Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>>
>>Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
>>3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>>
>>Some options you might want to look at:
>>-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
>>-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
>>need it but any automobile will like it.
>>-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
>>reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
>>been towed to the trail head.
>>-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
>>-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
>>-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
>>midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
>>placement, etc .
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>>Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
>>>show that, I though the first two failed.
>>>
>>>Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind
>
> the
>
>>>motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed
>
> was
>
>>>quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
>>>bed.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>
>>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>>>
>>>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>>>
>>>>Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have
>>>
>>>figures
>>>
>>>
>>>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to
>
> go
>
>>>84.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>>>
>>>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle
>>>
>>>should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>2001 TJ
>>>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

RoyJ

Key thing on tie downs is STURDY. You want to be able to hit something
fairly hard with the tow vehicle and not have the Jeep come cruising by
you. If you use the D rings with a ****** strap, I suspect that should
qualify. (If not, you are asking for the D ring to get projected like a
missle) You would like to have the tie down chains going to D rings on
the trailer at around 30 to 45 degrees from the horizontal. Since Jeep
bumpers are about 12' apart, that might be a bit tight on a 16' trailer.
I'd probably go for some convienient frame holes a couple feet from the
bumpers. If you can't spead them out to the side, you will have to cross
tie it (right side of Jeep to left side of trailer).

IMHO I still prefer to fasten the wheels down and let the Jeep
suspension flex but no one else seems to see it that way. When you hook
to the frame you have to crank it down tight enough to take all the
wiggle out of the suspension, don't let it loosen, tighten, jerk etc.

For tie downs, check out www.northentool.com Item# 127287
"Buyers 1/2in. Heavy Duty Forged D-Ring"
For chain, do not use the hardware store Grade 30 "proof", use the grade
43 or 70.

Andy wrote:
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>>Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>>
>>Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
>>3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>>
>>Some options you might want to look at:
>>-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
>>-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
>>need it but any automobile will like it.
>>-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
>>reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
>>been towed to the trail head.
>>-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
>>-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
>>-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
>>midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
>>placement, etc .
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>>Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
>>>show that, I though the first two failed.
>>>
>>>Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind
>
> the
>
>>>motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed
>
> was
>
>>>quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
>>>bed.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>
>>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>>>
>>>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>>>
>>>>Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have
>>>
>>>figures
>>>
>>>
>>>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to
>
> go
>
>>>84.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>>>
>>>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle
>>>
>>>should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>2001 TJ
>>>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

RoyJ

Key thing on tie downs is STURDY. You want to be able to hit something
fairly hard with the tow vehicle and not have the Jeep come cruising by
you. If you use the D rings with a ****** strap, I suspect that should
qualify. (If not, you are asking for the D ring to get projected like a
missle) You would like to have the tie down chains going to D rings on
the trailer at around 30 to 45 degrees from the horizontal. Since Jeep
bumpers are about 12' apart, that might be a bit tight on a 16' trailer.
I'd probably go for some convienient frame holes a couple feet from the
bumpers. If you can't spead them out to the side, you will have to cross
tie it (right side of Jeep to left side of trailer).

IMHO I still prefer to fasten the wheels down and let the Jeep
suspension flex but no one else seems to see it that way. When you hook
to the frame you have to crank it down tight enough to take all the
wiggle out of the suspension, don't let it loosen, tighten, jerk etc.

For tie downs, check out www.northentool.com Item# 127287
"Buyers 1/2in. Heavy Duty Forged D-Ring"
For chain, do not use the hardware store Grade 30 "proof", use the grade
43 or 70.

Andy wrote:
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>>Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>>
>>Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
>>3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>>
>>Some options you might want to look at:
>>-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
>>-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
>>need it but any automobile will like it.
>>-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
>>reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
>>been towed to the trail head.
>>-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
>>-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
>>-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
>>midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
>>placement, etc .
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>>Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
>>>show that, I though the first two failed.
>>>
>>>Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind
>
> the
>
>>>motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed
>
> was
>
>>>quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
>>>bed.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>
>>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>>>
>>>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>>>
>>>>Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have
>>>
>>>figures
>>>
>>>
>>>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to
>
> go
>
>>>84.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>>>
>>>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle
>>>
>>>should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>2001 TJ
>>>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

RocknTJ

Strap the axles not above the suspension.
Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?

--James

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to
or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
>

RocknTJ

Strap the axles not above the suspension.
Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?

--James

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to
or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
>

RocknTJ

Strap the axles not above the suspension.
Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?

--James

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to
or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
>

RocknTJ

Strap the axles not above the suspension.
Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?

--James

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to
or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

Look at car carriers, what do THEY tie to?

"RocknTJ" <jetowle@***.net> wrote in message
news:GNEPc.4257$Oi.3503@fed1read04...
> Strap the axles not above the suspension.
> Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?
>
> --James
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> > Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for
tie
> > downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to
> or
> > over the frame?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

Look at car carriers, what do THEY tie to?

"RocknTJ" <jetowle@***.net> wrote in message
news:GNEPc.4257$Oi.3503@fed1read04...
> Strap the axles not above the suspension.
> Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?
>
> --James
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> > Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for
tie
> > downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to
> or
> > over the frame?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

Look at car carriers, what do THEY tie to?

"RocknTJ" <jetowle@***.net> wrote in message
news:GNEPc.4257$Oi.3503@fed1read04...
> Strap the axles not above the suspension.
> Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?
>
> --James
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> > Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for
tie
> > downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to
> or
> > over the frame?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>