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Andy 08-01-2004 07:03 PM

JEEP TRAILER
 
After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It will
only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go 84.
They are the same expect for axle ratings.

What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle should
I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.

16' Flatbed Trailer
2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
82" Wide between fenders
Painted Wood Deck
Ramps and Carriers
New Tires and Rims


16' Flatbed Trailer
2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
82" Wide between fenders
Painted Wood Deck
Ramps and Carriers
New Tires and Rims

Thanks,

Andy
2001 TJ
Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver



Matt Macchiarolo 08-01-2004 08:12 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
The 2x3500#-axle trailer should be fine as long as the trailer is actually
rated for 7000# gross. I found out the hard way that just because a given
trailer has 3500# axles doesn't mean the rest of the trailer is rated for
the full 7,000#. Check the manufacturer's sticker for the true gross weight
rating.

I'm guessing your Jeep probably weighs in the neighborhood of 4500 pounds,
and a 7,000# trailer shouldn't weigh more than 1600-2000#, so you should be
OK.

Width-wise, it's your preference if you want to go 82 or 84" wide deck. A
wider deck will translate to wider axles, which translates to added
stability.

I'd recommend getting brakes on both axles. Not only would you have
additional stopping power, it will add a redundancy in case one axle's
brakes fail.

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IEePc.193692$a24.181102@attbi_s03...
> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 08-01-2004 08:12 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
The 2x3500#-axle trailer should be fine as long as the trailer is actually
rated for 7000# gross. I found out the hard way that just because a given
trailer has 3500# axles doesn't mean the rest of the trailer is rated for
the full 7,000#. Check the manufacturer's sticker for the true gross weight
rating.

I'm guessing your Jeep probably weighs in the neighborhood of 4500 pounds,
and a 7,000# trailer shouldn't weigh more than 1600-2000#, so you should be
OK.

Width-wise, it's your preference if you want to go 82 or 84" wide deck. A
wider deck will translate to wider axles, which translates to added
stability.

I'd recommend getting brakes on both axles. Not only would you have
additional stopping power, it will add a redundancy in case one axle's
brakes fail.

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IEePc.193692$a24.181102@attbi_s03...
> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 08-01-2004 08:12 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
The 2x3500#-axle trailer should be fine as long as the trailer is actually
rated for 7000# gross. I found out the hard way that just because a given
trailer has 3500# axles doesn't mean the rest of the trailer is rated for
the full 7,000#. Check the manufacturer's sticker for the true gross weight
rating.

I'm guessing your Jeep probably weighs in the neighborhood of 4500 pounds,
and a 7,000# trailer shouldn't weigh more than 1600-2000#, so you should be
OK.

Width-wise, it's your preference if you want to go 82 or 84" wide deck. A
wider deck will translate to wider axles, which translates to added
stability.

I'd recommend getting brakes on both axles. Not only would you have
additional stopping power, it will add a redundancy in case one axle's
brakes fail.

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IEePc.193692$a24.181102@attbi_s03...
> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 08-01-2004 08:12 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
The 2x3500#-axle trailer should be fine as long as the trailer is actually
rated for 7000# gross. I found out the hard way that just because a given
trailer has 3500# axles doesn't mean the rest of the trailer is rated for
the full 7,000#. Check the manufacturer's sticker for the true gross weight
rating.

I'm guessing your Jeep probably weighs in the neighborhood of 4500 pounds,
and a 7,000# trailer shouldn't weigh more than 1600-2000#, so you should be
OK.

Width-wise, it's your preference if you want to go 82 or 84" wide deck. A
wider deck will translate to wider axles, which translates to added
stability.

I'd recommend getting brakes on both axles. Not only would you have
additional stopping power, it will add a redundancy in case one axle's
brakes fail.

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IEePc.193692$a24.181102@attbi_s03...
> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>




RoyJ 08-01-2004 08:13 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
I'll respond to THIS post LOL!

Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
loaded.

Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?

Andy wrote:

> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go 84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>


RoyJ 08-01-2004 08:13 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
I'll respond to THIS post LOL!

Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
loaded.

Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?

Andy wrote:

> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go 84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>


RoyJ 08-01-2004 08:13 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
I'll respond to THIS post LOL!

Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
loaded.

Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?

Andy wrote:

> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go 84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>


RoyJ 08-01-2004 08:13 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
I'll respond to THIS post LOL!

Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
loaded.

Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?

Andy wrote:

> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go 84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>


Andy 08-01-2004 09:15 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
show that, I though the first two failed.

Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind the
motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed was
quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
bed.

Andy
2001 TJ

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>
> Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> loaded.
>
> Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>
> Andy wrote:
>
> > After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> > getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

figures
> > on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

will
> > only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

84.
> > They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >
> > What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

should
> > I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >
> > 16' Flatbed Trailer
> > 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> > 82" Wide between fenders
> > Painted Wood Deck
> > Ramps and Carriers
> > New Tires and Rims
> >
> >
> > 16' Flatbed Trailer
> > 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> > 82" Wide between fenders
> > Painted Wood Deck
> > Ramps and Carriers
> > New Tires and Rims
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> > Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >
> >




Andy 08-01-2004 09:15 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
show that, I though the first two failed.

Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind the
motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed was
quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
bed.

Andy
2001 TJ

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>
> Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> loaded.
>
> Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>
> Andy wrote:
>
> > After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> > getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

figures
> > on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

will
> > only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

84.
> > They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >
> > What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

should
> > I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >
> > 16' Flatbed Trailer
> > 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> > 82" Wide between fenders
> > Painted Wood Deck
> > Ramps and Carriers
> > New Tires and Rims
> >
> >
> > 16' Flatbed Trailer
> > 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> > 82" Wide between fenders
> > Painted Wood Deck
> > Ramps and Carriers
> > New Tires and Rims
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> > Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >
> >




Andy 08-01-2004 09:15 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
show that, I though the first two failed.

Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind the
motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed was
quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
bed.

Andy
2001 TJ

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>
> Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> loaded.
>
> Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>
> Andy wrote:
>
> > After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> > getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

figures
> > on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

will
> > only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

84.
> > They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >
> > What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

should
> > I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >
> > 16' Flatbed Trailer
> > 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> > 82" Wide between fenders
> > Painted Wood Deck
> > Ramps and Carriers
> > New Tires and Rims
> >
> >
> > 16' Flatbed Trailer
> > 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> > 82" Wide between fenders
> > Painted Wood Deck
> > Ramps and Carriers
> > New Tires and Rims
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> > Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >
> >




Andy 08-01-2004 09:15 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
show that, I though the first two failed.

Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind the
motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed was
quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
bed.

Andy
2001 TJ

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>
> Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> loaded.
>
> Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>
> Andy wrote:
>
> > After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> > getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

figures
> > on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

will
> > only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

84.
> > They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >
> > What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

should
> > I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >
> > 16' Flatbed Trailer
> > 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> > 82" Wide between fenders
> > Painted Wood Deck
> > Ramps and Carriers
> > New Tires and Rims
> >
> >
> > 16' Flatbed Trailer
> > 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> > 82" Wide between fenders
> > Painted Wood Deck
> > Ramps and Carriers
> > New Tires and Rims
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> > Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >
> >




Jo Bo 08-02-2004 06:36 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
I once built a trailer for my 1938 solid cast iron John Deer model AR tractor.
As I recall if was around 4000 pounds. I used 2 mobile home axels with the
width cut down to meet the 96" width requirement. Only the front axel had
brakes and when manually operated they would drag my f-150 to a stop in
unbelievablely short time.

JoBo

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IEePc.193692$a24.181102@attbi_s03...
> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go 84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>




Jo Bo 08-02-2004 06:36 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
I once built a trailer for my 1938 solid cast iron John Deer model AR tractor.
As I recall if was around 4000 pounds. I used 2 mobile home axels with the
width cut down to meet the 96" width requirement. Only the front axel had
brakes and when manually operated they would drag my f-150 to a stop in
unbelievablely short time.

JoBo

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IEePc.193692$a24.181102@attbi_s03...
> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go 84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>




Jo Bo 08-02-2004 06:36 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
I once built a trailer for my 1938 solid cast iron John Deer model AR tractor.
As I recall if was around 4000 pounds. I used 2 mobile home axels with the
width cut down to meet the 96" width requirement. Only the front axel had
brakes and when manually operated they would drag my f-150 to a stop in
unbelievablely short time.

JoBo

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IEePc.193692$a24.181102@attbi_s03...
> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go 84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>




Jo Bo 08-02-2004 06:36 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
I once built a trailer for my 1938 solid cast iron John Deer model AR tractor.
As I recall if was around 4000 pounds. I used 2 mobile home axels with the
width cut down to meet the 96" width requirement. Only the front axel had
brakes and when manually operated they would drag my f-150 to a stop in
unbelievablely short time.

JoBo

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IEePc.193692$a24.181102@attbi_s03...
> After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have figures
> on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It will
> only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go 84.
> They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>
> What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle should
> I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
>
> 16' Flatbed Trailer
> 2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> 82" Wide between fenders
> Painted Wood Deck
> Ramps and Carriers
> New Tires and Rims
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
> Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>
>




RoyJ 08-02-2004 11:09 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.

Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.

Some options you might want to look at:
-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
need it but any automobile will like it.
-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
been towed to the trail head.
-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
placement, etc .

Cheers.

Andy wrote:
> Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> show that, I though the first two failed.
>
> Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind the
> motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed was
> quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> bed.
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>
>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>
>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>loaded.
>>
>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

>
> figures
>
>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

>
> will
>
>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

>
> 84.
>
>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>
>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

>
> should
>
>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>
>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>
>>>
>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>
>>>

>
>
>


RoyJ 08-02-2004 11:09 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.

Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.

Some options you might want to look at:
-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
need it but any automobile will like it.
-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
been towed to the trail head.
-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
placement, etc .

Cheers.

Andy wrote:
> Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> show that, I though the first two failed.
>
> Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind the
> motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed was
> quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> bed.
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>
>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>
>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>loaded.
>>
>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

>
> figures
>
>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

>
> will
>
>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

>
> 84.
>
>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>
>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

>
> should
>
>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>
>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>
>>>
>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>
>>>

>
>
>


RoyJ 08-02-2004 11:09 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.

Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.

Some options you might want to look at:
-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
need it but any automobile will like it.
-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
been towed to the trail head.
-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
placement, etc .

Cheers.

Andy wrote:
> Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> show that, I though the first two failed.
>
> Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind the
> motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed was
> quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> bed.
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>
>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>
>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>loaded.
>>
>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

>
> figures
>
>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

>
> will
>
>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

>
> 84.
>
>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>
>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

>
> should
>
>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>
>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>
>>>
>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>
>>>

>
>
>


RoyJ 08-02-2004 11:09 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.

Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.

Some options you might want to look at:
-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
need it but any automobile will like it.
-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
been towed to the trail head.
-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
placement, etc .

Cheers.

Andy wrote:
> Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> show that, I though the first two failed.
>
> Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind the
> motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed was
> quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> bed.
>
> Andy
> 2001 TJ
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>
>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>
>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>loaded.
>>
>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

>
> figures
>
>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

>
> will
>
>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to go

>
> 84.
>
>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>
>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

>
> should
>
>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>
>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>
>>>
>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>
>>>

>
>
>


Jerry McG 08-02-2004 05:53 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Great advice.

FWIW, I recently purchased 10k lb. rated Top Hat 16' "beaver tail" to
trailer my YJ. I really didn't need the extra capacity, however it was the
best value I found in this area. We have a number of local trailer sales /
mfr outfits that were cheaper, but and some of the stuff they sell looked
like it would disintegrate on the first bump in the road.

To date my only concern is the ramps are rather narrow, with deep channels
and I fear they'll cut the sidewalls. They also need to be placed rather
precisely, he's correct, look for one that's not that fussy. Also, I came up
with a tie-down system using 2" ratchet straps and chain hooks. I replaced
the short fabric / hook ends and replaced them with about 18" of chain with
a hook on the end. The hook fits into the slots in the frame used for
transporting on car carriers. Right now I'm lashing it down to the stake
pockets and rails on the dside of the trailer. I'm told a better way is to
bolt some tie-down d-rings into the floor, which I'll look into in the
future.


"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>
> Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
> 3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>
> Some options you might want to look at:
> -brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
> -beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
> need it but any automobile will like it.
> -winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
> reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
> been towed to the trail head.
> -You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
> -Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
> -Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
> midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
> placement, etc .
>
> Cheers.
>
> Andy wrote:
> > Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> > show that, I though the first two failed.
> >
> > Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

the
> > motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

was
> > quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> > bed.
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> >
> >>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
> >>
> >>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> >>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> >>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> >>loaded.
> >>
> >>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> >>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
> >>
> >>Andy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> >>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

> >
> > figures
> >
> >>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

> >
> > will
> >
> >>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

go
> >
> > 84.
> >
> >>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >>>
> >>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

> >
> > should
> >
> >>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>2001 TJ
> >>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >
> >




Jerry McG 08-02-2004 05:53 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Great advice.

FWIW, I recently purchased 10k lb. rated Top Hat 16' "beaver tail" to
trailer my YJ. I really didn't need the extra capacity, however it was the
best value I found in this area. We have a number of local trailer sales /
mfr outfits that were cheaper, but and some of the stuff they sell looked
like it would disintegrate on the first bump in the road.

To date my only concern is the ramps are rather narrow, with deep channels
and I fear they'll cut the sidewalls. They also need to be placed rather
precisely, he's correct, look for one that's not that fussy. Also, I came up
with a tie-down system using 2" ratchet straps and chain hooks. I replaced
the short fabric / hook ends and replaced them with about 18" of chain with
a hook on the end. The hook fits into the slots in the frame used for
transporting on car carriers. Right now I'm lashing it down to the stake
pockets and rails on the dside of the trailer. I'm told a better way is to
bolt some tie-down d-rings into the floor, which I'll look into in the
future.


"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>
> Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
> 3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>
> Some options you might want to look at:
> -brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
> -beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
> need it but any automobile will like it.
> -winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
> reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
> been towed to the trail head.
> -You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
> -Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
> -Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
> midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
> placement, etc .
>
> Cheers.
>
> Andy wrote:
> > Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> > show that, I though the first two failed.
> >
> > Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

the
> > motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

was
> > quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> > bed.
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> >
> >>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
> >>
> >>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> >>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> >>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> >>loaded.
> >>
> >>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> >>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
> >>
> >>Andy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> >>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

> >
> > figures
> >
> >>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

> >
> > will
> >
> >>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

go
> >
> > 84.
> >
> >>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >>>
> >>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

> >
> > should
> >
> >>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>2001 TJ
> >>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >
> >




Jerry McG 08-02-2004 05:53 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Great advice.

FWIW, I recently purchased 10k lb. rated Top Hat 16' "beaver tail" to
trailer my YJ. I really didn't need the extra capacity, however it was the
best value I found in this area. We have a number of local trailer sales /
mfr outfits that were cheaper, but and some of the stuff they sell looked
like it would disintegrate on the first bump in the road.

To date my only concern is the ramps are rather narrow, with deep channels
and I fear they'll cut the sidewalls. They also need to be placed rather
precisely, he's correct, look for one that's not that fussy. Also, I came up
with a tie-down system using 2" ratchet straps and chain hooks. I replaced
the short fabric / hook ends and replaced them with about 18" of chain with
a hook on the end. The hook fits into the slots in the frame used for
transporting on car carriers. Right now I'm lashing it down to the stake
pockets and rails on the dside of the trailer. I'm told a better way is to
bolt some tie-down d-rings into the floor, which I'll look into in the
future.


"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>
> Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
> 3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>
> Some options you might want to look at:
> -brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
> -beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
> need it but any automobile will like it.
> -winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
> reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
> been towed to the trail head.
> -You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
> -Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
> -Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
> midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
> placement, etc .
>
> Cheers.
>
> Andy wrote:
> > Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> > show that, I though the first two failed.
> >
> > Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

the
> > motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

was
> > quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> > bed.
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> >
> >>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
> >>
> >>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> >>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> >>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> >>loaded.
> >>
> >>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> >>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
> >>
> >>Andy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> >>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

> >
> > figures
> >
> >>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

> >
> > will
> >
> >>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

go
> >
> > 84.
> >
> >>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >>>
> >>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

> >
> > should
> >
> >>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>2001 TJ
> >>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >
> >




Jerry McG 08-02-2004 05:53 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Great advice.

FWIW, I recently purchased 10k lb. rated Top Hat 16' "beaver tail" to
trailer my YJ. I really didn't need the extra capacity, however it was the
best value I found in this area. We have a number of local trailer sales /
mfr outfits that were cheaper, but and some of the stuff they sell looked
like it would disintegrate on the first bump in the road.

To date my only concern is the ramps are rather narrow, with deep channels
and I fear they'll cut the sidewalls. They also need to be placed rather
precisely, he's correct, look for one that's not that fussy. Also, I came up
with a tie-down system using 2" ratchet straps and chain hooks. I replaced
the short fabric / hook ends and replaced them with about 18" of chain with
a hook on the end. The hook fits into the slots in the frame used for
transporting on car carriers. Right now I'm lashing it down to the stake
pockets and rails on the dside of the trailer. I'm told a better way is to
bolt some tie-down d-rings into the floor, which I'll look into in the
future.


"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>
> Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
> 3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>
> Some options you might want to look at:
> -brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
> -beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
> need it but any automobile will like it.
> -winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
> reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
> been towed to the trail head.
> -You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
> -Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
> -Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
> midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
> placement, etc .
>
> Cheers.
>
> Andy wrote:
> > Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> > show that, I though the first two failed.
> >
> > Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

the
> > motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

was
> > quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> > bed.
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> >
> >>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
> >>
> >>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> >>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> >>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> >>loaded.
> >>
> >>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> >>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
> >>
> >>Andy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> >>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

> >
> > figures
> >
> >>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

> >
> > will
> >
> >>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

go
> >
> > 84.
> >
> >>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >>>
> >>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

> >
> > should
> >
> >>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>2001 TJ
> >>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >
> >




Andy 08-02-2004 06:40 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
over the frame?

Andy

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>
> Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
> 3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>
> Some options you might want to look at:
> -brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
> -beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
> need it but any automobile will like it.
> -winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
> reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
> been towed to the trail head.
> -You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
> -Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
> -Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
> midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
> placement, etc .
>
> Cheers.
>
> Andy wrote:
> > Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> > show that, I though the first two failed.
> >
> > Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

the
> > motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

was
> > quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> > bed.
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> >
> >>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
> >>
> >>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> >>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> >>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> >>loaded.
> >>
> >>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> >>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
> >>
> >>Andy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> >>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

> >
> > figures
> >
> >>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

> >
> > will
> >
> >>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

go
> >
> > 84.
> >
> >>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >>>
> >>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

> >
> > should
> >
> >>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>2001 TJ
> >>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >
> >




Andy 08-02-2004 06:40 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
over the frame?

Andy

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>
> Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
> 3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>
> Some options you might want to look at:
> -brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
> -beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
> need it but any automobile will like it.
> -winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
> reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
> been towed to the trail head.
> -You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
> -Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
> -Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
> midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
> placement, etc .
>
> Cheers.
>
> Andy wrote:
> > Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> > show that, I though the first two failed.
> >
> > Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

the
> > motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

was
> > quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> > bed.
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> >
> >>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
> >>
> >>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> >>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> >>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> >>loaded.
> >>
> >>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> >>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
> >>
> >>Andy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> >>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

> >
> > figures
> >
> >>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

> >
> > will
> >
> >>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

go
> >
> > 84.
> >
> >>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >>>
> >>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

> >
> > should
> >
> >>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>2001 TJ
> >>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >
> >




Andy 08-02-2004 06:40 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
over the frame?

Andy

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>
> Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
> 3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>
> Some options you might want to look at:
> -brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
> -beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
> need it but any automobile will like it.
> -winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
> reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
> been towed to the trail head.
> -You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
> -Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
> -Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
> midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
> placement, etc .
>
> Cheers.
>
> Andy wrote:
> > Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> > show that, I though the first two failed.
> >
> > Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

the
> > motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

was
> > quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> > bed.
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> >
> >>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
> >>
> >>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> >>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> >>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> >>loaded.
> >>
> >>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> >>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
> >>
> >>Andy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> >>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

> >
> > figures
> >
> >>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

> >
> > will
> >
> >>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

go
> >
> > 84.
> >
> >>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >>>
> >>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

> >
> > should
> >
> >>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>2001 TJ
> >>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >
> >




Andy 08-02-2004 06:40 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
over the frame?

Andy

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>
> Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
> 3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>
> Some options you might want to look at:
> -brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
> -beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
> need it but any automobile will like it.
> -winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
> reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
> been towed to the trail head.
> -You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
> -Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
> -Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
> midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
> placement, etc .
>
> Cheers.
>
> Andy wrote:
> > Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
> > show that, I though the first two failed.
> >
> > Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

the
> > motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

was
> > quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
> > bed.
> >
> > Andy
> > 2001 TJ
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> >
> >>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
> >>
> >>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
> >>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
> >>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
> >>loaded.
> >>
> >>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
> >>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
> >>
> >>Andy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
> >>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have

> >
> > figures
> >
> >>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It

> >
> > will
> >
> >>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

go
> >
> > 84.
> >
> >>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
> >>>
> >>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle

> >
> > should
> >
> >>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>16' Flatbed Trailer
> >>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
> >>>82" Wide between fenders
> >>>Painted Wood Deck
> >>>Ramps and Carriers
> >>>New Tires and Rims
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>2001 TJ
> >>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >
> >




RoyJ 08-02-2004 08:42 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Key thing on tie downs is STURDY. You want to be able to hit something
fairly hard with the tow vehicle and not have the Jeep come cruising by
you. If you use the D rings with a snatch strap, I suspect that should
qualify. (If not, you are asking for the D ring to get projected like a
missle) You would like to have the tie down chains going to D rings on
the trailer at around 30 to 45 degrees from the horizontal. Since Jeep
bumpers are about 12' apart, that might be a bit tight on a 16' trailer.
I'd probably go for some convienient frame holes a couple feet from the
bumpers. If you can't spead them out to the side, you will have to cross
tie it (right side of Jeep to left side of trailer).

IMHO I still prefer to fasten the wheels down and let the Jeep
suspension flex but no one else seems to see it that way. When you hook
to the frame you have to crank it down tight enough to take all the
wiggle out of the suspension, don't let it loosen, tighten, jerk etc.

For tie downs, check out www.northentool.com Item# 127287
"Buyers 1/2in. Heavy Duty Forged D-Ring"
For chain, do not use the hardware store Grade 30 "proof", use the grade
43 or 70.

Andy wrote:
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>>Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>>
>>Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
>>3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>>
>>Some options you might want to look at:
>>-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
>>-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
>>need it but any automobile will like it.
>>-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
>>reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
>>been towed to the trail head.
>>-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
>>-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
>>-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
>>midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
>>placement, etc .
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>>Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
>>>show that, I though the first two failed.
>>>
>>>Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

>
> the
>
>>>motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

>
> was
>
>>>quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
>>>bed.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>
>>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>>>
>>>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>>>
>>>>Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have
>>>
>>>figures
>>>
>>>
>>>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

>
> go
>
>>>84.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>>>
>>>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle
>>>
>>>should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>2001 TJ
>>>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>


RoyJ 08-02-2004 08:42 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Key thing on tie downs is STURDY. You want to be able to hit something
fairly hard with the tow vehicle and not have the Jeep come cruising by
you. If you use the D rings with a snatch strap, I suspect that should
qualify. (If not, you are asking for the D ring to get projected like a
missle) You would like to have the tie down chains going to D rings on
the trailer at around 30 to 45 degrees from the horizontal. Since Jeep
bumpers are about 12' apart, that might be a bit tight on a 16' trailer.
I'd probably go for some convienient frame holes a couple feet from the
bumpers. If you can't spead them out to the side, you will have to cross
tie it (right side of Jeep to left side of trailer).

IMHO I still prefer to fasten the wheels down and let the Jeep
suspension flex but no one else seems to see it that way. When you hook
to the frame you have to crank it down tight enough to take all the
wiggle out of the suspension, don't let it loosen, tighten, jerk etc.

For tie downs, check out www.northentool.com Item# 127287
"Buyers 1/2in. Heavy Duty Forged D-Ring"
For chain, do not use the hardware store Grade 30 "proof", use the grade
43 or 70.

Andy wrote:
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>>Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>>
>>Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
>>3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>>
>>Some options you might want to look at:
>>-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
>>-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
>>need it but any automobile will like it.
>>-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
>>reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
>>been towed to the trail head.
>>-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
>>-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
>>-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
>>midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
>>placement, etc .
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>>Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
>>>show that, I though the first two failed.
>>>
>>>Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

>
> the
>
>>>motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

>
> was
>
>>>quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
>>>bed.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>
>>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>>>
>>>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>>>
>>>>Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have
>>>
>>>figures
>>>
>>>
>>>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

>
> go
>
>>>84.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>>>
>>>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle
>>>
>>>should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>2001 TJ
>>>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>


RoyJ 08-02-2004 08:42 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Key thing on tie downs is STURDY. You want to be able to hit something
fairly hard with the tow vehicle and not have the Jeep come cruising by
you. If you use the D rings with a snatch strap, I suspect that should
qualify. (If not, you are asking for the D ring to get projected like a
missle) You would like to have the tie down chains going to D rings on
the trailer at around 30 to 45 degrees from the horizontal. Since Jeep
bumpers are about 12' apart, that might be a bit tight on a 16' trailer.
I'd probably go for some convienient frame holes a couple feet from the
bumpers. If you can't spead them out to the side, you will have to cross
tie it (right side of Jeep to left side of trailer).

IMHO I still prefer to fasten the wheels down and let the Jeep
suspension flex but no one else seems to see it that way. When you hook
to the frame you have to crank it down tight enough to take all the
wiggle out of the suspension, don't let it loosen, tighten, jerk etc.

For tie downs, check out www.northentool.com Item# 127287
"Buyers 1/2in. Heavy Duty Forged D-Ring"
For chain, do not use the hardware store Grade 30 "proof", use the grade
43 or 70.

Andy wrote:
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>>Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>>
>>Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
>>3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>>
>>Some options you might want to look at:
>>-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
>>-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
>>need it but any automobile will like it.
>>-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
>>reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
>>been towed to the trail head.
>>-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
>>-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
>>-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
>>midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
>>placement, etc .
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>>Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
>>>show that, I though the first two failed.
>>>
>>>Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

>
> the
>
>>>motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

>
> was
>
>>>quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
>>>bed.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>
>>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>>>
>>>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>>>
>>>>Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have
>>>
>>>figures
>>>
>>>
>>>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

>
> go
>
>>>84.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>>>
>>>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle
>>>
>>>should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>2001 TJ
>>>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>


RoyJ 08-02-2004 08:42 PM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Key thing on tie downs is STURDY. You want to be able to hit something
fairly hard with the tow vehicle and not have the Jeep come cruising by
you. If you use the D rings with a snatch strap, I suspect that should
qualify. (If not, you are asking for the D ring to get projected like a
missle) You would like to have the tie down chains going to D rings on
the trailer at around 30 to 45 degrees from the horizontal. Since Jeep
bumpers are about 12' apart, that might be a bit tight on a 16' trailer.
I'd probably go for some convienient frame holes a couple feet from the
bumpers. If you can't spead them out to the side, you will have to cross
tie it (right side of Jeep to left side of trailer).

IMHO I still prefer to fasten the wheels down and let the Jeep
suspension flex but no one else seems to see it that way. When you hook
to the frame you have to crank it down tight enough to take all the
wiggle out of the suspension, don't let it loosen, tighten, jerk etc.

For tie downs, check out www.northentool.com Item# 127287
"Buyers 1/2in. Heavy Duty Forged D-Ring"
For chain, do not use the hardware store Grade 30 "proof", use the grade
43 or 70.

Andy wrote:
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:oOsPc.6506$9Y6.1699@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>>Price is about what I was seeing when I looked at trailers last year.
>>
>>Someone mentioned checking the mfg gross weight to make sure that 2x
>>3500 pounds actually gets you a 7000 pound gross trailer.
>>
>>Some options you might want to look at:
>>-brakes on both axles, should add $150 to $200 or so
>>-beaver tail (dropped rear) makes loading much easier. Your Jeep won't
>>need it but any automobile will like it.
>>-winch on the front (manual is fine, just make sure it is has double
>>reduction gears) You should be able to load a disabled Jeep after it has
>>been towed to the trail head.
>>-You need to add some big 'D' rings to chain the Jeep down
>>-Get some transport quality chain, appropriate hooks to fasten it down.
>>-Make sure you can safely load the Jeep in the dark, in a rainstorm, at
>>midnight, when your are tired, etc. No slipery ramps, no ultra precise
>>placement, etc .
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>>>Ah, now I realize that this post went multiple times. My reader doesn't
>>>show that, I though the first two failed.
>>>
>>>Yes, I may get brakes on both axles if I can. It will be towed behind

>
> the
>
>>>motor home so 82 or 84 inches wide will work. The first trailer listed

>
> was
>
>>>quoted to me for $1310 which I though was great. No sides - just a flat
>>>bed.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>2001 TJ
>>>
>>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>news:zGfPc.5765$cK.752@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll respond to THIS post LOL!
>>>>
>>>>Either one will work fine. You Jeep will come in a bit over 4000 pounds
>>>>so 7000 pounds gross weight should be fine. I prefer a smaller, narrower
>>>>trailer, you might want to have some ramps over the fenders to get it
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>Of course, if you have a big enough tow rig, the bigger trailer is
>>>>nicer. Any chance you can get one with brakes on both axles?
>>>>
>>>>Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>After modifying my Jeep it doesn't flat tow so well so I'm figuring on
>>>>>getting a trailer. I would tow this behind my motor home. I have
>>>
>>>figures
>>>
>>>
>>>>>on two trailers. My Jeep has 35" tires, winch and it weights some. It
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>only have a few inches to spare at 82" between fenders, I may have to

>
> go
>
>>>84.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>They are the same expect for axle ratings.
>>>>>
>>>>>What the experience out there with this width, braking and which axle
>>>
>>>should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I buy? I want to be safe but extra's cost.
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-3500# axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>16' Flatbed Trailer
>>>>>2-5200# 6 lug axles, 1 Brake Axle
>>>>>82" Wide between fenders
>>>>>Painted Wood Deck
>>>>>Ramps and Carriers
>>>>>New Tires and Rims
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>2001 TJ
>>>>>Retired Long Distance Big Truck Driver
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>


RocknTJ 08-03-2004 12:44 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Strap the axles not above the suspension.
Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?

--James

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to

or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
>




RocknTJ 08-03-2004 12:44 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Strap the axles not above the suspension.
Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?

--James

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to

or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
>




RocknTJ 08-03-2004 12:44 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Strap the axles not above the suspension.
Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?

--James

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to

or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
>




RocknTJ 08-03-2004 12:44 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Strap the axles not above the suspension.
Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?

--James

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for tie
> downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to

or
> over the frame?
>
> Andy
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 08-03-2004 07:55 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Look at car carriers, what do THEY tie to?

"RocknTJ" <jetowle@cox.net> wrote in message
news:GNEPc.4257$Oi.3503@fed1read04...
> Strap the axles not above the suspension.
> Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?
>
> --James
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> > Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for

tie
> > downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to

> or
> > over the frame?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 08-03-2004 07:55 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Look at car carriers, what do THEY tie to?

"RocknTJ" <jetowle@cox.net> wrote in message
news:GNEPc.4257$Oi.3503@fed1read04...
> Strap the axles not above the suspension.
> Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?
>
> --James
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> > Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for

tie
> > downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to

> or
> > over the frame?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 08-03-2004 07:55 AM

Re: JEEP TRAILER
 
Look at car carriers, what do THEY tie to?

"RocknTJ" <jetowle@cox.net> wrote in message
news:GNEPc.4257$Oi.3503@fed1read04...
> Strap the axles not above the suspension.
> Look at flat bed tow trucks, where do they tie too?
>
> --James
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ppzPc.202888$IQ4.201249@attbi_s02...
> > Good advise Roy, thanks. IYHO where is the best spot on the Jeep for

tie
> > downs. I have D rings front and back on the bumpers. Or should I go to

> or
> > over the frame?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>





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