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The eight inch Fords all look like this:
http://www.geocities.com/yj3qtr_ton/88swap.html from their freshly
rolled Explorers.
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Bob wrote:
>
> I wouldn't mess with the D35 either, from all I've seen and heard
> about these POS axles.
>
> You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
> f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
> open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
> website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
> includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
> everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
> me). Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
> it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
> up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...
>
> Putting it in perspective, I think the $800 price on new rear axle is
> an awesome deal, considering how much godawful amount of money I spent
> on just ONE of my ARBs, parts alone...lol
>
> /Bob

Jim Bratton

Ah, what would you recommend for gearing if you have an auto in the
tire-size scenerio? vs a manual...

-Jim

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:sxIEc.10356$Qj6.9576@fed1read05...
> 4.56 is a superb all-around ratio for 33" tires, assuming your TJ has the
> 5-speed manual tranny and not an automatic. At one time, I had 33" tires
> and installed 4.10 gearing and regretted that decision, wishing every day
> that I drove that combination that I had gone with 4.56 instead.
>
> For what you do, the Super35 would be a very good choice unless cost is
not
> an issue. If it's not, the Dana 44 is hard to beat as a good solid
> all-around axle for typical Jeeping needs. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> > OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> > differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> > 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> > daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> > lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> > medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
> >
> > I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> > 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> > it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> > 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> > 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> > offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> > would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> > more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> > gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> > swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
> >
> > Thanks alot
> > Derek
>
>

Jim Bratton

Ah, what would you recommend for gearing if you have an auto in the
tire-size scenerio? vs a manual...

-Jim

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:sxIEc.10356$Qj6.9576@fed1read05...
> 4.56 is a superb all-around ratio for 33" tires, assuming your TJ has the
> 5-speed manual tranny and not an automatic. At one time, I had 33" tires
> and installed 4.10 gearing and regretted that decision, wishing every day
> that I drove that combination that I had gone with 4.56 instead.
>
> For what you do, the Super35 would be a very good choice unless cost is
not
> an issue. If it's not, the Dana 44 is hard to beat as a good solid
> all-around axle for typical Jeeping needs. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> > OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> > differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> > 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> > daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> > lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> > medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
> >
> > I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> > 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> > it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> > 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> > 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> > offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> > would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> > more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> > gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> > swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
> >
> > Thanks alot
> > Derek
>
>

Jim Bratton

Ah, what would you recommend for gearing if you have an auto in the
tire-size scenerio? vs a manual...

-Jim

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:sxIEc.10356$Qj6.9576@fed1read05...
> 4.56 is a superb all-around ratio for 33" tires, assuming your TJ has the
> 5-speed manual tranny and not an automatic. At one time, I had 33" tires
> and installed 4.10 gearing and regretted that decision, wishing every day
> that I drove that combination that I had gone with 4.56 instead.
>
> For what you do, the Super35 would be a very good choice unless cost is
not
> an issue. If it's not, the Dana 44 is hard to beat as a good solid
> all-around axle for typical Jeeping needs. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> > OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> > differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> > 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> > daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> > lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> > medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
> >
> > I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> > 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> > it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> > 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> > 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> > offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> > would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> > more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> > gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> > swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
> >
> > Thanks alot
> > Derek
>
>

Jim Bratton

Ah, what would you recommend for gearing if you have an auto in the
tire-size scenerio? vs a manual...

-Jim

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:sxIEc.10356$Qj6.9576@fed1read05...
> 4.56 is a superb all-around ratio for 33" tires, assuming your TJ has the
> 5-speed manual tranny and not an automatic. At one time, I had 33" tires
> and installed 4.10 gearing and regretted that decision, wishing every day
> that I drove that combination that I had gone with 4.56 instead.
>
> For what you do, the Super35 would be a very good choice unless cost is
not
> an issue. If it's not, the Dana 44 is hard to beat as a good solid
> all-around axle for typical Jeeping needs. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> > OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> > differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> > 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> > daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> > lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> > medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
> >
> > I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> > 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> > it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> > 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> > 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> > offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> > would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> > more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> > gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> > swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
> >
> > Thanks alot
> > Derek
>
>

Steve

Bob wrote:

> You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
> f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
> open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
> website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
> includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
> everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
> me).

Brand new and complete with 4.10, limited slip, disc brakes, yoke and TJ
suspension mounts (and C-clips :]) for $1250. Not bad, especially if
that's your ratio.

http://www.ok4wd.com/product.asp?id=547

> Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
> it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
> up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...

Superior 'Super 35' is $810. Randy's 'Ultimate 35' $750. Both with
Detroit locker. Gears and trussing extra:

http://www.samsoffroad.com/samsoffro...a35AxleKit.htm
http://www.ringpinion.com/ipacks.html

One motivator for some to upgrade the 35 is the ability to retain stock ABS.

Steve

Steve

Bob wrote:

> You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
> f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
> open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
> website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
> includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
> everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
> me).

Brand new and complete with 4.10, limited slip, disc brakes, yoke and TJ
suspension mounts (and C-clips :]) for $1250. Not bad, especially if
that's your ratio.

http://www.ok4wd.com/product.asp?id=547

> Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
> it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
> up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...

Superior 'Super 35' is $810. Randy's 'Ultimate 35' $750. Both with
Detroit locker. Gears and trussing extra:

http://www.samsoffroad.com/samsoffro...a35AxleKit.htm
http://www.ringpinion.com/ipacks.html

One motivator for some to upgrade the 35 is the ability to retain stock ABS.

Steve

Steve

Bob wrote:

> You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
> f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
> open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
> website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
> includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
> everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
> me).

Brand new and complete with 4.10, limited slip, disc brakes, yoke and TJ
suspension mounts (and C-clips :]) for $1250. Not bad, especially if
that's your ratio.

http://www.ok4wd.com/product.asp?id=547

> Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
> it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
> up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...

Superior 'Super 35' is $810. Randy's 'Ultimate 35' $750. Both with
Detroit locker. Gears and trussing extra:

http://www.samsoffroad.com/samsoffro...a35AxleKit.htm
http://www.ringpinion.com/ipacks.html

One motivator for some to upgrade the 35 is the ability to retain stock ABS.

Steve

Steve

Bob wrote:

> You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
> f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
> open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
> website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
> includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
> everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
> me).

Brand new and complete with 4.10, limited slip, disc brakes, yoke and TJ
suspension mounts (and C-clips :]) for $1250. Not bad, especially if
that's your ratio.

http://www.ok4wd.com/product.asp?id=547

> Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
> it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
> up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...

Superior 'Super 35' is $810. Randy's 'Ultimate 35' $750. Both with
Detroit locker. Gears and trussing extra:

http://www.samsoffroad.com/samsoffro...a35AxleKit.htm
http://www.ringpinion.com/ipacks.html

One motivator for some to upgrade the 35 is the ability to retain stock ABS.

Steve