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Derek Proctor 06-30-2004 07:08 PM

Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.

I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?

Thanks alot
Derek

Jerry Bransford 06-30-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
4.56 is a superb all-around ratio for 33" tires, assuming your TJ has the
5-speed manual tranny and not an automatic. At one time, I had 33" tires
and installed 4.10 gearing and regretted that decision, wishing every day
that I drove that combination that I had gone with 4.56 instead.

For what you do, the Super35 would be a very good choice unless cost is not
an issue. If it's not, the Dana 44 is hard to beat as a good solid
all-around axle for typical Jeeping needs. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek




Jerry Bransford 06-30-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
4.56 is a superb all-around ratio for 33" tires, assuming your TJ has the
5-speed manual tranny and not an automatic. At one time, I had 33" tires
and installed 4.10 gearing and regretted that decision, wishing every day
that I drove that combination that I had gone with 4.56 instead.

For what you do, the Super35 would be a very good choice unless cost is not
an issue. If it's not, the Dana 44 is hard to beat as a good solid
all-around axle for typical Jeeping needs. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek




Jerry Bransford 06-30-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
4.56 is a superb all-around ratio for 33" tires, assuming your TJ has the
5-speed manual tranny and not an automatic. At one time, I had 33" tires
and installed 4.10 gearing and regretted that decision, wishing every day
that I drove that combination that I had gone with 4.56 instead.

For what you do, the Super35 would be a very good choice unless cost is not
an issue. If it's not, the Dana 44 is hard to beat as a good solid
all-around axle for typical Jeeping needs. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek




Jerry Bransford 06-30-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
4.56 is a superb all-around ratio for 33" tires, assuming your TJ has the
5-speed manual tranny and not an automatic. At one time, I had 33" tires
and installed 4.10 gearing and regretted that decision, wishing every day
that I drove that combination that I had gone with 4.56 instead.

For what you do, the Super35 would be a very good choice unless cost is not
an issue. If it's not, the Dana 44 is hard to beat as a good solid
all-around axle for typical Jeeping needs. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek




Cherokee-LTD 06-30-2004 09:26 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
: OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
: differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
: 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
: daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
: lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
: medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
:
: I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
: 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
: it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
: 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
: 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
: offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
: would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
: more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
: gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
: swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
:
: Thanks alot
: Derek

I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your needs
but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the shafts,
the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or D44.
The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44 for
less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier and
gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.

-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 06-30-2004 09:26 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
: OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
: differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
: 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
: daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
: lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
: medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
:
: I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
: 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
: it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
: 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
: 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
: offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
: would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
: more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
: gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
: swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
:
: Thanks alot
: Derek

I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your needs
but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the shafts,
the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or D44.
The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44 for
less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier and
gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.

-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 06-30-2004 09:26 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
: OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
: differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
: 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
: daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
: lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
: medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
:
: I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
: 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
: it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
: 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
: 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
: offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
: would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
: more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
: gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
: swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
:
: Thanks alot
: Derek

I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your needs
but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the shafts,
the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or D44.
The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44 for
less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier and
gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.

-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 06-30-2004 09:26 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
: OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
: differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
: 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
: daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
: lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
: medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
:
: I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
: 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
: it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
: 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
: 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
: offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
: would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
: more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
: gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
: swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
:
: Thanks alot
: Derek

I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your needs
but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the shafts,
the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or D44.
The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44 for
less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier and
gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.

-Brian



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-30-2004 10:30 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Ditto, don't forget the 35's two inch axle tubes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your needs
> but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the shafts,
> the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or D44.
> The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44 for
> less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier and
> gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.
>
> -Brian


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-30-2004 10:30 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Ditto, don't forget the 35's two inch axle tubes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your needs
> but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the shafts,
> the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or D44.
> The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44 for
> less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier and
> gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.
>
> -Brian


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-30-2004 10:30 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Ditto, don't forget the 35's two inch axle tubes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your needs
> but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the shafts,
> the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or D44.
> The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44 for
> less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier and
> gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.
>
> -Brian


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-30-2004 10:30 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Ditto, don't forget the 35's two inch axle tubes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your needs
> but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the shafts,
> the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or D44.
> The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44 for
> less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier and
> gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.
>
> -Brian


Steve 06-30-2004 11:11 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Hi Derek,

I have friend who regularly and brutally abused a Super 35 on 33x12.50s
and was unable to damage it. If you do go the Super 35 route, it's a
good idea to weld the pumpkin to the axle tubes (spun my D35 on the
tubes before swapping in a D44) and truss the tubes so they don't bend.
If you live in an area that gets snow, consider the ARB air locker
option instead of the Detroit.

At 70 mph in fifth, your RPM would be:

3.55 : 2011
4.10 : 2322
4.56 : 2583

I have 4.10 on my XJ with the same engine, trans, and tires. Generally
works real well on the highway, but I do occasionally need to downshift
in order to maintain speed when hauling a full load up a steep grade.

Steve


Derek Proctor wrote:
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


Steve 06-30-2004 11:11 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Hi Derek,

I have friend who regularly and brutally abused a Super 35 on 33x12.50s
and was unable to damage it. If you do go the Super 35 route, it's a
good idea to weld the pumpkin to the axle tubes (spun my D35 on the
tubes before swapping in a D44) and truss the tubes so they don't bend.
If you live in an area that gets snow, consider the ARB air locker
option instead of the Detroit.

At 70 mph in fifth, your RPM would be:

3.55 : 2011
4.10 : 2322
4.56 : 2583

I have 4.10 on my XJ with the same engine, trans, and tires. Generally
works real well on the highway, but I do occasionally need to downshift
in order to maintain speed when hauling a full load up a steep grade.

Steve


Derek Proctor wrote:
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


Steve 06-30-2004 11:11 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Hi Derek,

I have friend who regularly and brutally abused a Super 35 on 33x12.50s
and was unable to damage it. If you do go the Super 35 route, it's a
good idea to weld the pumpkin to the axle tubes (spun my D35 on the
tubes before swapping in a D44) and truss the tubes so they don't bend.
If you live in an area that gets snow, consider the ARB air locker
option instead of the Detroit.

At 70 mph in fifth, your RPM would be:

3.55 : 2011
4.10 : 2322
4.56 : 2583

I have 4.10 on my XJ with the same engine, trans, and tires. Generally
works real well on the highway, but I do occasionally need to downshift
in order to maintain speed when hauling a full load up a steep grade.

Steve


Derek Proctor wrote:
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


Steve 06-30-2004 11:11 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Hi Derek,

I have friend who regularly and brutally abused a Super 35 on 33x12.50s
and was unable to damage it. If you do go the Super 35 route, it's a
good idea to weld the pumpkin to the axle tubes (spun my D35 on the
tubes before swapping in a D44) and truss the tubes so they don't bend.
If you live in an area that gets snow, consider the ARB air locker
option instead of the Detroit.

At 70 mph in fifth, your RPM would be:

3.55 : 2011
4.10 : 2322
4.56 : 2583

I have 4.10 on my XJ with the same engine, trans, and tires. Generally
works real well on the highway, but I do occasionally need to downshift
in order to maintain speed when hauling a full load up a steep grade.

Steve


Derek Proctor wrote:
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


Jerry McG 06-30-2004 11:35 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 

"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


My familiar rant in here is: Don't waste money on a D35. However, if you
can't afford the jump to a D44 or a 9 inch, atleast do the Super 35 kit. It
does zilch for the puny pihon bearings, the skinny axle tubes, etc., but it
at least gets rid of the snap-prone axles & the c-clips, and you get a
Detroit to boot. Still, get the 44 and toss the 35 into a pond somewhere.



Jerry McG 06-30-2004 11:35 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 

"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


My familiar rant in here is: Don't waste money on a D35. However, if you
can't afford the jump to a D44 or a 9 inch, atleast do the Super 35 kit. It
does zilch for the puny pihon bearings, the skinny axle tubes, etc., but it
at least gets rid of the snap-prone axles & the c-clips, and you get a
Detroit to boot. Still, get the 44 and toss the 35 into a pond somewhere.



Jerry McG 06-30-2004 11:35 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 

"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


My familiar rant in here is: Don't waste money on a D35. However, if you
can't afford the jump to a D44 or a 9 inch, atleast do the Super 35 kit. It
does zilch for the puny pihon bearings, the skinny axle tubes, etc., but it
at least gets rid of the snap-prone axles & the c-clips, and you get a
Detroit to boot. Still, get the 44 and toss the 35 into a pond somewhere.



Jerry McG 06-30-2004 11:35 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 

"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


My familiar rant in here is: Don't waste money on a D35. However, if you
can't afford the jump to a D44 or a 9 inch, atleast do the Super 35 kit. It
does zilch for the puny pihon bearings, the skinny axle tubes, etc., but it
at least gets rid of the snap-prone axles & the c-clips, and you get a
Detroit to boot. Still, get the 44 and toss the 35 into a pond somewhere.



Jerry Bransford 07-01-2004 01:43 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
The TJ's Dana 44 and Dana 35c both use the exact same 2.625" axle tubes, the
front Dana 30 is 2.5".

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40E3775F.775468A@cox.net...
> Ditto, don't forget the 35's two inch axle tubes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your

needs
> > but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the

shafts,
> > the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or

D44.
> > The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44

for
> > less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier

and
> > gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.
> >
> > -Brian




Jerry Bransford 07-01-2004 01:43 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
The TJ's Dana 44 and Dana 35c both use the exact same 2.625" axle tubes, the
front Dana 30 is 2.5".

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40E3775F.775468A@cox.net...
> Ditto, don't forget the 35's two inch axle tubes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your

needs
> > but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the

shafts,
> > the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or

D44.
> > The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44

for
> > less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier

and
> > gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.
> >
> > -Brian




Jerry Bransford 07-01-2004 01:43 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
The TJ's Dana 44 and Dana 35c both use the exact same 2.625" axle tubes, the
front Dana 30 is 2.5".

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40E3775F.775468A@cox.net...
> Ditto, don't forget the 35's two inch axle tubes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your

needs
> > but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the

shafts,
> > the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or

D44.
> > The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44

for
> > less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier

and
> > gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.
> >
> > -Brian




Jerry Bransford 07-01-2004 01:43 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
The TJ's Dana 44 and Dana 35c both use the exact same 2.625" axle tubes, the
front Dana 30 is 2.5".

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40E3775F.775468A@cox.net...
> Ditto, don't forget the 35's two inch axle tubes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Jerry B, the Superior kit will likely be fine for your

needs
> > but I personally wouldn't spend money on a D35. While beefing up the

shafts,
> > the ring gear is still a weak link compared to a stock Ford 9, 8.8 or

D44.
> > The plus side is no fabrication. I think you could build up a used D44

for
> > less than the Super 35 and use the left over cash for the D30 carrier

and
> > gears... I'd go 4.56 for 33's.
> >
> > -Brian




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 02:08 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Yes I was exaggerating a bit. "By measure, my complete Dana 44 axle
is over 30% heavier than my Dana 35... 230 lbs. vs. 175 lbs. XJ Dana 44
axle tubes measure 2.76" in diameter, necking down just a tad to 2.72"
at the center differential housing. The XJ Dana 35 axle measures 2.64"
in diameter, necking down quite a bit to 2.48" at the diff."
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/xj_dana44_02/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The TJ's Dana 44 and Dana 35c both use the exact same 2.625" axle tubes, the
> front Dana 30 is 2.5".
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 02:08 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Yes I was exaggerating a bit. "By measure, my complete Dana 44 axle
is over 30% heavier than my Dana 35... 230 lbs. vs. 175 lbs. XJ Dana 44
axle tubes measure 2.76" in diameter, necking down just a tad to 2.72"
at the center differential housing. The XJ Dana 35 axle measures 2.64"
in diameter, necking down quite a bit to 2.48" at the diff."
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/xj_dana44_02/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The TJ's Dana 44 and Dana 35c both use the exact same 2.625" axle tubes, the
> front Dana 30 is 2.5".
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 02:08 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Yes I was exaggerating a bit. "By measure, my complete Dana 44 axle
is over 30% heavier than my Dana 35... 230 lbs. vs. 175 lbs. XJ Dana 44
axle tubes measure 2.76" in diameter, necking down just a tad to 2.72"
at the center differential housing. The XJ Dana 35 axle measures 2.64"
in diameter, necking down quite a bit to 2.48" at the diff."
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/xj_dana44_02/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The TJ's Dana 44 and Dana 35c both use the exact same 2.625" axle tubes, the
> front Dana 30 is 2.5".
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 02:08 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Yes I was exaggerating a bit. "By measure, my complete Dana 44 axle
is over 30% heavier than my Dana 35... 230 lbs. vs. 175 lbs. XJ Dana 44
axle tubes measure 2.76" in diameter, necking down just a tad to 2.72"
at the center differential housing. The XJ Dana 35 axle measures 2.64"
in diameter, necking down quite a bit to 2.48" at the diff."
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/xj_dana44_02/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The TJ's Dana 44 and Dana 35c both use the exact same 2.625" axle tubes, the
> front Dana 30 is 2.5".
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/


Greg 07-01-2004 10:08 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Just on Ebay, dana 35 complete, starting bid, $1.00, that should tell you
something.

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cc00r40pio@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> > OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> > differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> > 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> > daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> > lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> > medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
> >
> > I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> > 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> > it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> > 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> > 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> > offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> > would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> > more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> > gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> > swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
> >
> > Thanks alot
> > Derek

>
> My familiar rant in here is: Don't waste money on a D35. However, if you
> can't afford the jump to a D44 or a 9 inch, atleast do the Super 35 kit.

It
> does zilch for the puny pihon bearings, the skinny axle tubes, etc., but

it
> at least gets rid of the snap-prone axles & the c-clips, and you get a
> Detroit to boot. Still, get the 44 and toss the 35 into a pond somewhere.
>
>




Greg 07-01-2004 10:08 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Just on Ebay, dana 35 complete, starting bid, $1.00, that should tell you
something.

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cc00r40pio@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> > OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> > differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> > 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> > daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> > lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> > medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
> >
> > I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> > 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> > it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> > 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> > 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> > offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> > would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> > more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> > gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> > swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
> >
> > Thanks alot
> > Derek

>
> My familiar rant in here is: Don't waste money on a D35. However, if you
> can't afford the jump to a D44 or a 9 inch, atleast do the Super 35 kit.

It
> does zilch for the puny pihon bearings, the skinny axle tubes, etc., but

it
> at least gets rid of the snap-prone axles & the c-clips, and you get a
> Detroit to boot. Still, get the 44 and toss the 35 into a pond somewhere.
>
>




Greg 07-01-2004 10:08 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Just on Ebay, dana 35 complete, starting bid, $1.00, that should tell you
something.

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cc00r40pio@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> > OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> > differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> > 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> > daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> > lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> > medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
> >
> > I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> > 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> > it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> > 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> > 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> > offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> > would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> > more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> > gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> > swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
> >
> > Thanks alot
> > Derek

>
> My familiar rant in here is: Don't waste money on a D35. However, if you
> can't afford the jump to a D44 or a 9 inch, atleast do the Super 35 kit.

It
> does zilch for the puny pihon bearings, the skinny axle tubes, etc., but

it
> at least gets rid of the snap-prone axles & the c-clips, and you get a
> Detroit to boot. Still, get the 44 and toss the 35 into a pond somewhere.
>
>




Greg 07-01-2004 10:08 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
Just on Ebay, dana 35 complete, starting bid, $1.00, that should tell you
something.

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cc00r40pio@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.co m...
> > OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> > differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> > 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> > daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> > lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> > medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
> >
> > I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> > 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> > it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> > 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> > 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> > offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> > would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> > more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> > gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> > swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
> >
> > Thanks alot
> > Derek

>
> My familiar rant in here is: Don't waste money on a D35. However, if you
> can't afford the jump to a D44 or a 9 inch, atleast do the Super 35 kit.

It
> does zilch for the puny pihon bearings, the skinny axle tubes, etc., but

it
> at least gets rid of the snap-prone axles & the c-clips, and you get a
> Detroit to boot. Still, get the 44 and toss the 35 into a pond somewhere.
>
>




Bob 07-01-2004 10:12 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
I wouldn't mess with the D35 either, from all I've seen and heard
about these POS axles.

You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
me). Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...

Putting it in perspective, I think the $800 price on new rear axle is
an awesome deal, considering how much godawful amount of money I spent
on just ONE of my ARBs, parts alone...lol

/Bob

dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message news:<3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.c om>...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


Bob 07-01-2004 10:12 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
I wouldn't mess with the D35 either, from all I've seen and heard
about these POS axles.

You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
me). Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...

Putting it in perspective, I think the $800 price on new rear axle is
an awesome deal, considering how much godawful amount of money I spent
on just ONE of my ARBs, parts alone...lol

/Bob

dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message news:<3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.c om>...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


Bob 07-01-2004 10:12 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
I wouldn't mess with the D35 either, from all I've seen and heard
about these POS axles.

You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
me). Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...

Putting it in perspective, I think the $800 price on new rear axle is
an awesome deal, considering how much godawful amount of money I spent
on just ONE of my ARBs, parts alone...lol

/Bob

dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message news:<3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.c om>...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


Bob 07-01-2004 10:12 AM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
I wouldn't mess with the D35 either, from all I've seen and heard
about these POS axles.

You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
me). Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...

Putting it in perspective, I think the $800 price on new rear axle is
an awesome deal, considering how much godawful amount of money I spent
on just ONE of my ARBs, parts alone...lol

/Bob

dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message news:<3ade3bcf.0406301508.52e3c9d@posting.google.c om>...
> OK so i currently have a 97 sahara with 3.55 gears, an open
> differential in the rear, and a dana 35c. I have 3" combined lift,
> 33x10.5 bfg muds, 4.0 straight six, and 5 spd. I use my Jeep as a
> daily driver and travel 100 miles north nearly every weekend to my
> lakehouse. I offroad frequently, mostly mud and light rocks. I tow a
> medium sized utility trailer twice a week also.
>
> I am looking at the Super 35 kit and detroit locker to beef up my dana
> 35c, as i know it WILL break in the future if i dont do anything about
> it. While im doing that i may as well change my gears to 4.11 or
> 4.56. However, im unsure about which gears to choose. i know the
> 4.11s will be better on the highway, but will I lack towing and
> offroad capability compared to the 4.56s? Which would you do? Also I
> would like to hear from anyone who has the Super 35 kit. Would it be
> more worth it to spend a little extra for a custom dana 44 with the
> gears, and locker also. Or should i just head to the local yard and
> swap for a ford 8.8" axle from an exlporer?
>
> Thanks alot
> Derek


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 04:18 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
The eight inch Fords all look like this:
http://www.geocities.com/yj3qtr_ton/88swap.html from their freshly
rolled Explorers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bob wrote:
>
> I wouldn't mess with the D35 either, from all I've seen and heard
> about these POS axles.
>
> You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
> f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
> open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
> website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
> includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
> everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
> me). Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
> it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
> up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...
>
> Putting it in perspective, I think the $800 price on new rear axle is
> an awesome deal, considering how much godawful amount of money I spent
> on just ONE of my ARBs, parts alone...lol
>
> /Bob


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 04:18 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
The eight inch Fords all look like this:
http://www.geocities.com/yj3qtr_ton/88swap.html from their freshly
rolled Explorers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bob wrote:
>
> I wouldn't mess with the D35 either, from all I've seen and heard
> about these POS axles.
>
> You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
> f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
> open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
> website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
> includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
> everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
> me). Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
> it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
> up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...
>
> Putting it in perspective, I think the $800 price on new rear axle is
> an awesome deal, considering how much godawful amount of money I spent
> on just ONE of my ARBs, parts alone...lol
>
> /Bob


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 04:18 PM

Re: Jeep TJ dana 35 axle rebuild
 
The eight inch Fords all look like this:
http://www.geocities.com/yj3qtr_ton/88swap.html from their freshly
rolled Explorers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bob wrote:
>
> I wouldn't mess with the D35 either, from all I've seen and heard
> about these POS axles.
>
> You can get a Ford 8.8 for a decent price, IMO. I saw a batch of them
> f/s (a friend is looking to go this route one day, so I keep my eye
> open for good deals) from ok4wd.com (I get a newsletter from their
> website). They said "starting at $799.95". I don't know what all that
> includes, but I do know the 8.8 comes with disc brakes, beefier
> everything, etc. no matter what. Seemed a good deal on the surface (to
> me). Of course, I don't know what a superior D35 conversion costs, so
> it may or may not be a better deal. I'd do it just to beef everything
> up, and to get a rear disc brake conversion bonus out of the deal...
>
> Putting it in perspective, I think the $800 price on new rear axle is
> an awesome deal, considering how much godawful amount of money I spent
> on just ONE of my ARBs, parts alone...lol
>
> /Bob



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