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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 03:12:32 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

Damn Goatman, I've heard that you where physically dragged, kicking &
screaming, and even broke the trailer door trying to get away from the
draft

> It is a traitor and should have been shot back in the seventies for
>draft evasion!
> god Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Cassandra Incognito" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
>news:QHBti.72986$dI1.35099@newsfe08.phx...
>>
>> Arrest him for what, precisely?

Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

24Bit®

On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 03:12:32 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

Damn Goatman, I've heard that you where physically dragged, kicking &
screaming, and even broke the trailer door trying to get away from the
draft

> It is a traitor and should have been shot back in the seventies for
>draft evasion!
> god Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Cassandra Incognito" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
>news:QHBti.72986$dI1.35099@newsfe08.phx...
>>
>> Arrest him for what, precisely?

Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

24Bit®

On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 03:12:32 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

Damn Goatman, I've heard that you where physically dragged, kicking &
screaming, and even broke the trailer door trying to get away from the
draft

> It is a traitor and should have been shot back in the seventies for
>draft evasion!
> god Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Cassandra Incognito" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
>news:QHBti.72986$dI1.35099@newsfe08.phx...
>>
>> Arrest him for what, precisely?

Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

Nick Hughes

HI Folks

Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.

The job was fairly straight forward, but even with an air ratchet it
took some time.

I figured out how to remove the fan assembly from the fan pulley. In
the 2000 TJ 6cyl 4.0L, there are four bolts that hold on the fan
pulley. I placed a box wrench on one of the bolts and held it
steady. At the same time, I placed a large adjustable wrench on the
big single bolt for the fan. This is how I unscrewed the fan
assembly. Then after I remove the four bolts holding the fan/water
pump pulley on, I used a rubber mallet to knock it free. It was
pretty suck on there.

Thanks again,
Nick

On Aug 4, 4:03 pm, Nick ------ <nixon8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> My 2000 Jeep TJ 6CYL 4.0L has been leaking coolant for some time.
> Originally, it appeared to leak from the top of the radiator. Given
> this, I replaced the radiator. Then it started leaking from where the
> lower hose connects to the radiator. I then tightened the hose on
> with hose clamps. Now its still leaking from what appears to be the
> front passenger side of the oil pan, between the gasket and the bottom
> of the oil pan below the serpentine belt. I'm pretty sure the leak
> isn't dripping from above hoses.
>
> The Jeep has almost 150k miles on it. I suspected a bad water pump,
> however there is no coolant leaking around the water pump gasket. I
> pulled the oil stick and confirmed the oil is brown, not milky white.
> When I changed the oil it didn't appear to have coolant mixed in. The
> cylinders are not misfiring. It's leaking about 1/3 gallon of coolant
> a drive.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions on the root cause? I was going to
> replace the water pump and thermostat, but the symptoms don't lead me
> to believe they are at fault. It seems like an over-pressure problem.
>
> Any insight is appreciated.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Nick

Nick Hughes

HI Folks

Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.

The job was fairly straight forward, but even with an air ratchet it
took some time.

I figured out how to remove the fan assembly from the fan pulley. In
the 2000 TJ 6cyl 4.0L, there are four bolts that hold on the fan
pulley. I placed a box wrench on one of the bolts and held it
steady. At the same time, I placed a large adjustable wrench on the
big single bolt for the fan. This is how I unscrewed the fan
assembly. Then after I remove the four bolts holding the fan/water
pump pulley on, I used a rubber mallet to knock it free. It was
pretty suck on there.

Thanks again,
Nick

On Aug 4, 4:03 pm, Nick ------ <nixon8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> My 2000 Jeep TJ 6CYL 4.0L has been leaking coolant for some time.
> Originally, it appeared to leak from the top of the radiator. Given
> this, I replaced the radiator. Then it started leaking from where the
> lower hose connects to the radiator. I then tightened the hose on
> with hose clamps. Now its still leaking from what appears to be the
> front passenger side of the oil pan, between the gasket and the bottom
> of the oil pan below the serpentine belt. I'm pretty sure the leak
> isn't dripping from above hoses.
>
> The Jeep has almost 150k miles on it. I suspected a bad water pump,
> however there is no coolant leaking around the water pump gasket. I
> pulled the oil stick and confirmed the oil is brown, not milky white.
> When I changed the oil it didn't appear to have coolant mixed in. The
> cylinders are not misfiring. It's leaking about 1/3 gallon of coolant
> a drive.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions on the root cause? I was going to
> replace the water pump and thermostat, but the symptoms don't lead me
> to believe they are at fault. It seems like an over-pressure problem.
>
> Any insight is appreciated.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Nick

Nick Hughes

HI Folks

Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.

The job was fairly straight forward, but even with an air ratchet it
took some time.

I figured out how to remove the fan assembly from the fan pulley. In
the 2000 TJ 6cyl 4.0L, there are four bolts that hold on the fan
pulley. I placed a box wrench on one of the bolts and held it
steady. At the same time, I placed a large adjustable wrench on the
big single bolt for the fan. This is how I unscrewed the fan
assembly. Then after I remove the four bolts holding the fan/water
pump pulley on, I used a rubber mallet to knock it free. It was
pretty suck on there.

Thanks again,
Nick

On Aug 4, 4:03 pm, Nick ------ <nixon8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> My 2000 Jeep TJ 6CYL 4.0L has been leaking coolant for some time.
> Originally, it appeared to leak from the top of the radiator. Given
> this, I replaced the radiator. Then it started leaking from where the
> lower hose connects to the radiator. I then tightened the hose on
> with hose clamps. Now its still leaking from what appears to be the
> front passenger side of the oil pan, between the gasket and the bottom
> of the oil pan below the serpentine belt. I'm pretty sure the leak
> isn't dripping from above hoses.
>
> The Jeep has almost 150k miles on it. I suspected a bad water pump,
> however there is no coolant leaking around the water pump gasket. I
> pulled the oil stick and confirmed the oil is brown, not milky white.
> When I changed the oil it didn't appear to have coolant mixed in. The
> cylinders are not misfiring. It's leaking about 1/3 gallon of coolant
> a drive.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions on the root cause? I was going to
> replace the water pump and thermostat, but the symptoms don't lead me
> to believe they are at fault. It seems like an over-pressure problem.
>
> Any insight is appreciated.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Nick

Nick Hughes

HI Folks

Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.

The job was fairly straight forward, but even with an air ratchet it
took some time.

I figured out how to remove the fan assembly from the fan pulley. In
the 2000 TJ 6cyl 4.0L, there are four bolts that hold on the fan
pulley. I placed a box wrench on one of the bolts and held it
steady. At the same time, I placed a large adjustable wrench on the
big single bolt for the fan. This is how I unscrewed the fan
assembly. Then after I remove the four bolts holding the fan/water
pump pulley on, I used a rubber mallet to knock it free. It was
pretty suck on there.

Thanks again,
Nick

On Aug 4, 4:03 pm, Nick ------ <nixon8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> My 2000 Jeep TJ 6CYL 4.0L has been leaking coolant for some time.
> Originally, it appeared to leak from the top of the radiator. Given
> this, I replaced the radiator. Then it started leaking from where the
> lower hose connects to the radiator. I then tightened the hose on
> with hose clamps. Now its still leaking from what appears to be the
> front passenger side of the oil pan, between the gasket and the bottom
> of the oil pan below the serpentine belt. I'm pretty sure the leak
> isn't dripping from above hoses.
>
> The Jeep has almost 150k miles on it. I suspected a bad water pump,
> however there is no coolant leaking around the water pump gasket. I
> pulled the oil stick and confirmed the oil is brown, not milky white.
> When I changed the oil it didn't appear to have coolant mixed in. The
> cylinders are not misfiring. It's leaking about 1/3 gallon of coolant
> a drive.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions on the root cause? I was going to
> replace the water pump and thermostat, but the symptoms don't lead me
> to believe they are at fault. It seems like an over-pressure problem.
>
> Any insight is appreciated.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Nick

DougW

Nick ------ wrote:
> HI Folks
>
> Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
> for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
> pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
> the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
> I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
> like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
> tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.

Thanks for letting us know how you fixed the problem.

I'm probably going to have to do the same thing on my ZJ
fairly soonish. Still have the original pump. :]

DougW

Nick ------ wrote:
> HI Folks
>
> Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
> for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
> pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
> the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
> I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
> like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
> tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.

Thanks for letting us know how you fixed the problem.

I'm probably going to have to do the same thing on my ZJ
fairly soonish. Still have the original pump. :]

DougW

Nick ------ wrote:
> HI Folks
>
> Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
> for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
> pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
> the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
> I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
> like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
> tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.

Thanks for letting us know how you fixed the problem.

I'm probably going to have to do the same thing on my ZJ
fairly soonish. Still have the original pump. :]