Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
11-15-2003, 02:34 PM
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Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
Hi:
I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
shuts off.
Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
(didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
the problem??
Anybody have any experience with this problem??
Thanks,
Jim Hawkins
jchawkins@telus.net
I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
shuts off.
Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
(didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
the problem??
Anybody have any experience with this problem??
Thanks,
Jim Hawkins
jchawkins@telus.net
11-15-2003, 03:42 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
It's likely low on refrigerant. O-rings leak often. You can buy a complete
set of O-rings and replace them yourself, but you still have to get the old
refrigerant safely out and into a recycling unit, and the new refrigerant
back in. That is what the $150 is for. You can get by with a vacuum pump
like the one I bought two summers ago, but a good one will go for $500.
Heck a set of decent gauges will set you back $100. I should really have a
charging station, but with two vehicles that have air I just couldn't
justify the price.
For $150 you can't even get close to the equipment you need to fix this
thing yourself I vote for the small shop, especially if they have a good
local reputation.
Earle
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
set of O-rings and replace them yourself, but you still have to get the old
refrigerant safely out and into a recycling unit, and the new refrigerant
back in. That is what the $150 is for. You can get by with a vacuum pump
like the one I bought two summers ago, but a good one will go for $500.
Heck a set of decent gauges will set you back $100. I should really have a
charging station, but with two vehicles that have air I just couldn't
justify the price.
For $150 you can't even get close to the equipment you need to fix this
thing yourself I vote for the small shop, especially if they have a good
local reputation.
Earle
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
11-15-2003, 03:42 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
It's likely low on refrigerant. O-rings leak often. You can buy a complete
set of O-rings and replace them yourself, but you still have to get the old
refrigerant safely out and into a recycling unit, and the new refrigerant
back in. That is what the $150 is for. You can get by with a vacuum pump
like the one I bought two summers ago, but a good one will go for $500.
Heck a set of decent gauges will set you back $100. I should really have a
charging station, but with two vehicles that have air I just couldn't
justify the price.
For $150 you can't even get close to the equipment you need to fix this
thing yourself I vote for the small shop, especially if they have a good
local reputation.
Earle
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
set of O-rings and replace them yourself, but you still have to get the old
refrigerant safely out and into a recycling unit, and the new refrigerant
back in. That is what the $150 is for. You can get by with a vacuum pump
like the one I bought two summers ago, but a good one will go for $500.
Heck a set of decent gauges will set you back $100. I should really have a
charging station, but with two vehicles that have air I just couldn't
justify the price.
For $150 you can't even get close to the equipment you need to fix this
thing yourself I vote for the small shop, especially if they have a good
local reputation.
Earle
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
11-15-2003, 03:42 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
It's likely low on refrigerant. O-rings leak often. You can buy a complete
set of O-rings and replace them yourself, but you still have to get the old
refrigerant safely out and into a recycling unit, and the new refrigerant
back in. That is what the $150 is for. You can get by with a vacuum pump
like the one I bought two summers ago, but a good one will go for $500.
Heck a set of decent gauges will set you back $100. I should really have a
charging station, but with two vehicles that have air I just couldn't
justify the price.
For $150 you can't even get close to the equipment you need to fix this
thing yourself I vote for the small shop, especially if they have a good
local reputation.
Earle
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
set of O-rings and replace them yourself, but you still have to get the old
refrigerant safely out and into a recycling unit, and the new refrigerant
back in. That is what the $150 is for. You can get by with a vacuum pump
like the one I bought two summers ago, but a good one will go for $500.
Heck a set of decent gauges will set you back $100. I should really have a
charging station, but with two vehicles that have air I just couldn't
justify the price.
For $150 you can't even get close to the equipment you need to fix this
thing yourself I vote for the small shop, especially if they have a good
local reputation.
Earle
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
11-15-2003, 04:00 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
Hi, When the clutch engages for a few seconds-you could be low on
134A. If you buy a charging kit,make sure there is no sealant with the
134A.It will clog the orfice tube. You will need a hose with
connectors,134A -1 can (without a sealer). Run the jeep -connect the
can to the hose-attach the cupping to the ac line.(only on size-can
not make a mistake). Once the clutch stays engaged and is blowing cold
air. You are done!
Good Luck.
On 15 Nov 2003 11:34:54 -0800, jchawkins@telus.net (Jim Hawkins)
wrote:
>Hi:
>
>I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
>problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
>use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
>unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
>another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
>the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
>shuts off.
>
>Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
>to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
>they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
>encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
>Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
>(didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
>or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
>sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
>the problem??
>
>Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim Hawkins
>jchawkins@telus.net
Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.
11-15-2003, 04:00 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
Hi, When the clutch engages for a few seconds-you could be low on
134A. If you buy a charging kit,make sure there is no sealant with the
134A.It will clog the orfice tube. You will need a hose with
connectors,134A -1 can (without a sealer). Run the jeep -connect the
can to the hose-attach the cupping to the ac line.(only on size-can
not make a mistake). Once the clutch stays engaged and is blowing cold
air. You are done!
Good Luck.
On 15 Nov 2003 11:34:54 -0800, jchawkins@telus.net (Jim Hawkins)
wrote:
>Hi:
>
>I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
>problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
>use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
>unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
>another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
>the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
>shuts off.
>
>Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
>to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
>they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
>encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
>Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
>(didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
>or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
>sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
>the problem??
>
>Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim Hawkins
>jchawkins@telus.net
Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.
11-15-2003, 04:00 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
Hi, When the clutch engages for a few seconds-you could be low on
134A. If you buy a charging kit,make sure there is no sealant with the
134A.It will clog the orfice tube. You will need a hose with
connectors,134A -1 can (without a sealer). Run the jeep -connect the
can to the hose-attach the cupping to the ac line.(only on size-can
not make a mistake). Once the clutch stays engaged and is blowing cold
air. You are done!
Good Luck.
On 15 Nov 2003 11:34:54 -0800, jchawkins@telus.net (Jim Hawkins)
wrote:
>Hi:
>
>I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
>problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
>use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
>unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
>another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
>the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
>shuts off.
>
>Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
>to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
>they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
>encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
>Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
>(didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
>or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
>sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
>the problem??
>
>Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim Hawkins
>jchawkins@telus.net
Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.
11-16-2003, 07:11 AM
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Re: Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
Come on, Bill, where are you on this one? You are slacking off. We all
know that Real Jeeps don't have air conditioning.
Jerry
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
know that Real Jeeps don't have air conditioning.
Jerry
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
11-16-2003, 07:11 AM
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Re: Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
Come on, Bill, where are you on this one? You are slacking off. We all
know that Real Jeeps don't have air conditioning.
Jerry
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
know that Real Jeeps don't have air conditioning.
Jerry
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
11-16-2003, 07:11 AM
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Re: Jeep TJ Air Conditioning.
Come on, Bill, where are you on this one? You are slacking off. We all
know that Real Jeeps don't have air conditioning.
Jerry
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net
know that Real Jeeps don't have air conditioning.
Jerry
"Jim Hawkins" <jchawkins@telus.net> wrote in message
news:f82747d0.0311151134.361f69ae@posting.google.c om...
> Hi:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep TJ Sahara, automatic with air - just encountered a
> problem with the air conditioning - when any of the selections that
> use air are selected on the slider, you can hear the air conditioning
> unit engage for about 3 seconds and then promptly shut off, recycle to
> another non-air setting and then back to an air setting and exactly
> the same thing occurs - engages for about 3 seconds and then promptly
> shuts off.
>
> Went to the dealer - they want $150 just to get started on it - went
> to a small shop - he wants $150 just to get started on it. They say
> they charge it up, and use a dye to look for leaks - anybody
> encountered this problem and what was the fix?? Where was it leaking??
>
> Also pulled and re-installed the relay in the box under the hood
> (didn't put in a new one)(there's no way you can tell if its working
> or not unless you buy a new one and put it in??)- is there also some
> sort of temperature sensor that might have gone that could be causing
> the problem??
>
> Anybody have any experience with this problem??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Hawkins
> jchawkins@telus.net