Jeep Paint
07-10-2003, 11:46 PM
#11
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Re: Jeep Paint
"RichH" <RhmpL33@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> A possibility of the discoloration is nothing more than tannins from
> decayed leaves or is iron staining from decomposed organic stuff. If so
> this is very easily removed by using a cleaner that contains "oxalic
> acid". Cleansers that are commericially available are: ZUD, Bartenders
> Friend, etc. - obviously just wet and apply but dont rub!
> Try an inconspicous place first.
> Boaters use oxalic all the time to remove tannins and iron stain
No way! Both of these are cleansers that are full of pumace for scrubing
bathroom fixtures (they come in cylindrical containers exactly the same as
Comet and Ajax). If oxalic acid is needed (and I have no idea about what
this will do to your paint) go to your home improvement store and buy pure
oxalic acid. Good luck dude.
Kim
> Chris & Mary wrote:
> > I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I
left
> > the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
upset
> > to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
my
> > Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Chris
> > 1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> > 4.0 L, 5-Speed
> > 214k
> >
> >
>
07-11-2003, 09:16 AM
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Re: Jeep Paint
ummmmmm I clearly stated: dont rub!
Kim wrote:
> "RichH" <RhmpL33@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:3F0E0F83.9070709@NOSPAM.net...
>
>>A possibility of the discoloration is nothing more than tannins from
>>decayed leaves or is iron staining from decomposed organic stuff. If so
>>this is very easily removed by using a cleaner that contains "oxalic
>>acid". Cleansers that are commericially available are: ZUD, Bartenders
>>Friend, etc. - obviously just wet and apply but dont rub!
>>Try an inconspicous place first.
>>Boaters use oxalic all the time to remove tannins and iron stain
>
>
> No way! Both of these are cleansers that are full of pumace for scrubing
> bathroom fixtures (they come in cylindrical containers exactly the same as
> Comet and Ajax). If oxalic acid is needed (and I have no idea about what
> this will do to your paint) go to your home improvement store and buy pure
> oxalic acid. Good luck dude.
>
> Kim
>
>
>>Chris & Mary wrote:
>>
>>>I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I
>>
> left
>
>>>the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
>>
> upset
>
>>>to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
>>
> my
>
>>>Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>>>4.0 L, 5-Speed
>>>214k
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Kim wrote:
> "RichH" <RhmpL33@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:3F0E0F83.9070709@NOSPAM.net...
>
>>A possibility of the discoloration is nothing more than tannins from
>>decayed leaves or is iron staining from decomposed organic stuff. If so
>>this is very easily removed by using a cleaner that contains "oxalic
>>acid". Cleansers that are commericially available are: ZUD, Bartenders
>>Friend, etc. - obviously just wet and apply but dont rub!
>>Try an inconspicous place first.
>>Boaters use oxalic all the time to remove tannins and iron stain
>
>
> No way! Both of these are cleansers that are full of pumace for scrubing
> bathroom fixtures (they come in cylindrical containers exactly the same as
> Comet and Ajax). If oxalic acid is needed (and I have no idea about what
> this will do to your paint) go to your home improvement store and buy pure
> oxalic acid. Good luck dude.
>
> Kim
>
>
>>Chris & Mary wrote:
>>
>>>I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I
>>
> left
>
>>>the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
>>
> upset
>
>>>to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
>>
> my
>
>>>Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>>>4.0 L, 5-Speed
>>>214k
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
07-11-2003, 02:26 PM
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Re: Jeep Paint
I just visited my local Autoboby Shop and they said the fogging can be fixed
by buffing it out. It will cost $80-$100 cdn for 3 hours of work and it
will fix all the scratches to since they are minor. They said the dealer I
bought it from last month must have had it painted before I got it and that
is what is wrong. After they buff it I must immediatly wax it and it should
never happen again. Does anyone know what they use to buff it and how they
do it. Thanks a lot for all of your replies!
Chris
"Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:54bPa.4974$jL2.462487@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I left
> the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
upset
> to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
my
> Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
> 1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> 4.0 L, 5-Speed
> 214k
>
>
by buffing it out. It will cost $80-$100 cdn for 3 hours of work and it
will fix all the scratches to since they are minor. They said the dealer I
bought it from last month must have had it painted before I got it and that
is what is wrong. After they buff it I must immediatly wax it and it should
never happen again. Does anyone know what they use to buff it and how they
do it. Thanks a lot for all of your replies!
Chris
"Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:54bPa.4974$jL2.462487@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I left
> the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
upset
> to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
my
> Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
> 1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> 4.0 L, 5-Speed
> 214k
>
>
07-11-2003, 07:16 PM
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Re: Jeep Paint
Should just be a standard buffing compound, you can do it yourself with a
buffer but if you screw up it ends up being alot worse than before you
started. It really helps to have an old car around to practice on.
"Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:TjDPa.5570$jL2.541578@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> I just visited my local Autoboby Shop and they said the fogging can be
fixed
> by buffing it out. It will cost $80-$100 cdn for 3 hours of work and it
> will fix all the scratches to since they are minor. They said the dealer
I
> bought it from last month must have had it painted before I got it and
that
> is what is wrong. After they buff it I must immediatly wax it and it
should
> never happen again. Does anyone know what they use to buff it and how
they
> do it. Thanks a lot for all of your replies!
>
> Chris
>
>
> "Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:54bPa.4974$jL2.462487@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I
left
> > the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
> upset
> > to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
> my
> > Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Chris
> > 1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> > 4.0 L, 5-Speed
> > 214k
> >
> >
>
>
buffer but if you screw up it ends up being alot worse than before you
started. It really helps to have an old car around to practice on.
"Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:TjDPa.5570$jL2.541578@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> I just visited my local Autoboby Shop and they said the fogging can be
fixed
> by buffing it out. It will cost $80-$100 cdn for 3 hours of work and it
> will fix all the scratches to since they are minor. They said the dealer
I
> bought it from last month must have had it painted before I got it and
that
> is what is wrong. After they buff it I must immediatly wax it and it
should
> never happen again. Does anyone know what they use to buff it and how
they
> do it. Thanks a lot for all of your replies!
>
> Chris
>
>
> "Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:54bPa.4974$jL2.462487@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I
left
> > the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
> upset
> > to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
> my
> > Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Chris
> > 1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> > 4.0 L, 5-Speed
> > 214k
> >
> >
>
>
07-11-2003, 07:59 PM
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Re: Jeep Paint
Tom Eller wrote:
> Should just be a standard buffing compound, you can do it yourself with a
> buffer but if you screw up it ends up being alot worse than before you
> started. It really helps to have an old car around to practice on.
<soapbox>
Buffers are the spawn of Satan for they allow anyone to effortlessly remove paint.
Yea.. they have a place, but it's not in the hands of someone that lacks
experience. I've seen far too many paint jobs hopelessly f-ed up by them.
Any rate, if you do choose to use one of these things remember to keep the
polishing bonnet clean and never use the same bonnet for different grits or
polish. And please remember that it's better to not buff enough than to buff
too much. Paint and clearcoat these days is incredibly thin. It's not like
the old lead-based-paint days where you could go after the finish with a high
grit rubbing compound.
</soapbox>
--
DougW
> Should just be a standard buffing compound, you can do it yourself with a
> buffer but if you screw up it ends up being alot worse than before you
> started. It really helps to have an old car around to practice on.
<soapbox>
Buffers are the spawn of Satan for they allow anyone to effortlessly remove paint.
Yea.. they have a place, but it's not in the hands of someone that lacks
experience. I've seen far too many paint jobs hopelessly f-ed up by them.
Any rate, if you do choose to use one of these things remember to keep the
polishing bonnet clean and never use the same bonnet for different grits or
polish. And please remember that it's better to not buff enough than to buff
too much. Paint and clearcoat these days is incredibly thin. It's not like
the old lead-based-paint days where you could go after the finish with a high
grit rubbing compound.
</soapbox>
--
DougW
07-12-2003, 03:20 AM
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Re: Jeep Paint
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Buffers are the spawn of Satan for they allow anyone to effortlessly
remove paint.
>
> Yea.. they have a place, but it's not in the hands of someone that lacks
> experience. I've seen far too many paint jobs hopelessly f-ed up by them.
>
Agreed, the first time I ever used a buffer I cut through the paint.
Fortunately it
was on an old car where the paint was ruined already, so it didn't matter.
But
it doesen't take that much time to figure out what to do. Keep the speed of
the
thing low, and let the buffer and the buffing compound do the work, don't
bear
down on it. And definitely practice on an old car first.
Ted
07-12-2003, 01:44 PM
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Re: Jeep Paint
Elflan wrote:
> I think I might have the same problem as Chris except when I went
> mudding, I splashed the hood pretty good and let it dry on for a few
> days. Now
> the hood of my 99tj feels "grainy" even after I washed it. The sides
> and fenders feel smooth to the touch. I lightly waxed just the hood
> with some carnuba but it still feels "thin". Should I use a
> cleaner/wax like Maquires.
> Sorry to horn in Chris.
If you can feel the surface irregularity, try clay. Works
pretty good for waterspots from hard water too. A bit safer
than rubbing compound with clearcoats.
> I think I might have the same problem as Chris except when I went
> mudding, I splashed the hood pretty good and let it dry on for a few
> days. Now
> the hood of my 99tj feels "grainy" even after I washed it. The sides
> and fenders feel smooth to the touch. I lightly waxed just the hood
> with some carnuba but it still feels "thin". Should I use a
> cleaner/wax like Maquires.
> Sorry to horn in Chris.
If you can feel the surface irregularity, try clay. Works
pretty good for waterspots from hard water too. A bit safer
than rubbing compound with clearcoats.
07-13-2003, 11:45 PM
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Re: Jeep Paint
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:<QTVPa.16209$R92.152@news2.central.***.net>.. .
> Elflan wrote:
> > I think I might have the same problem as Chris except when I went
> > mudding, I splashed the hood pretty good and let it dry on for a few
> > days. Now
> > the hood of my 99tj feels "grainy" even after I washed it. The sides
> > and fenders feel smooth to the touch. I lightly waxed just the hood
> > with some carnuba but it still feels "thin". Should I use a
> > cleaner/wax like Maquires.
> > Sorry to horn in Chris.
>
> Go get a claybar from Meguires. That will remove anything stuck to the paint.
> Just be sure to follow the directions.
I took the claybar advice from you guys and damn if it didn't work
like a champ.
Don't understand how exactly but it does. I bought the "Clay Magic"
because it was all they had. It comes in a box with a spray bottle and
a 3x4" blue clay bar.
I got it at Autozone for $9.99. Since I only needed to use it on my
hood and front fenders, I expect I can use the clay again. I followed
the instructions and finished it off with a coat of wax. The deep
shine and smooth feel is back.
Thanks
> Elflan wrote:
> > I think I might have the same problem as Chris except when I went
> > mudding, I splashed the hood pretty good and let it dry on for a few
> > days. Now
> > the hood of my 99tj feels "grainy" even after I washed it. The sides
> > and fenders feel smooth to the touch. I lightly waxed just the hood
> > with some carnuba but it still feels "thin". Should I use a
> > cleaner/wax like Maquires.
> > Sorry to horn in Chris.
>
> Go get a claybar from Meguires. That will remove anything stuck to the paint.
> Just be sure to follow the directions.
I took the claybar advice from you guys and damn if it didn't work
like a champ.
Don't understand how exactly but it does. I bought the "Clay Magic"
because it was all they had. It comes in a box with a spray bottle and
a 3x4" blue clay bar.
I got it at Autozone for $9.99. Since I only needed to use it on my
hood and front fenders, I expect I can use the clay again. I followed
the instructions and finished it off with a coat of wax. The deep
shine and smooth feel is back.
Thanks
07-15-2003, 03:44 PM
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Re: Jeep Paint
Why would anyone who would leave their car covered in mud for two weeks be
concerned about clouded paint?
"Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:54bPa.4974$jL2.462487@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I left
> the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
upset
> to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
my
> Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
> 1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> 4.0 L, 5-Speed
> 214k
>
>
concerned about clouded paint?
"Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:54bPa.4974$jL2.462487@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I left
> the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
upset
> to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
my
> Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
> 1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> 4.0 L, 5-Speed
> 214k
>
>
07-15-2003, 05:26 PM
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Re: Jeep Paint
It's a Jeep Thing. You wouldn't understand.
:)
Tom
"Sid Wood" <sidwwood@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Why would anyone who would leave their car covered in mud for two weeks be
> concerned about clouded paint?
>
> "Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:54bPa.4974$jL2.462487@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I
left
> > the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
> upset
> > to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
> my
> > Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Chris
> > 1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> > 4.0 L, 5-Speed
> > 214k
> >
> >
>
>
:)
Tom
"Sid Wood" <sidwwood@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:eQYQa.38833$lJd1.31148@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> Why would anyone who would leave their car covered in mud for two weeks be
> concerned about clouded paint?
>
> "Chris & Mary" <nebula@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:54bPa.4974$jL2.462487@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > I went mudding about two weeks ago and the jeep got fairly muddy. I
left
> > the mud on for those two weeks until I had a chance to wash it. I was
> upset
> > to see that the mud clouded my paint in patches! Can I fix this or does
> my
> > Jeep now permanently stained? It is black paint.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Chris
> > 1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> > 4.0 L, 5-Speed
> > 214k
> >
> >
>
>
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