Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
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Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
The transition is complicated by observing that a 1/2 inch may fit some
13mm nuts better than a 13mm will.
Don't most decent toolsets just mix metric and inch sizes these days?
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to agree
> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to different
> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>
> Earle
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>
>>On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>of tools that fits best.
>>
>>I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>
>>Merrill
>>
>>Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>
> year it
>
>>>>is.
>>>
>>>>Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>
> probably
>
>>>>aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>
> different
>
>>>>tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>--
>>>>Stupendous Man,
>>>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>
>>>2002 TJ
>>>Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>More money in "Their" pocket....
>>
>
>
13mm nuts better than a 13mm will.
Don't most decent toolsets just mix metric and inch sizes these days?
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to agree
> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to different
> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>
> Earle
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>
>>On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>of tools that fits best.
>>
>>I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>
>>Merrill
>>
>>Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>
> year it
>
>>>>is.
>>>
>>>>Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>
> probably
>
>>>>aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>
> different
>
>>>>tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>--
>>>>Stupendous Man,
>>>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>
>>>2002 TJ
>>>Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>More money in "Their" pocket....
>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
The transition is complicated by observing that a 1/2 inch may fit some
13mm nuts better than a 13mm will.
Don't most decent toolsets just mix metric and inch sizes these days?
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to agree
> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to different
> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>
> Earle
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>
>>On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>of tools that fits best.
>>
>>I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>
>>Merrill
>>
>>Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>
> year it
>
>>>>is.
>>>
>>>>Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>
> probably
>
>>>>aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>
> different
>
>>>>tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>--
>>>>Stupendous Man,
>>>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>
>>>2002 TJ
>>>Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>More money in "Their" pocket....
>>
>
>
13mm nuts better than a 13mm will.
Don't most decent toolsets just mix metric and inch sizes these days?
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to agree
> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to different
> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>
> Earle
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>
>>On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>of tools that fits best.
>>
>>I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>
>>Merrill
>>
>>Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>
> year it
>
>>>>is.
>>>
>>>>Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>
> probably
>
>>>>aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>
> different
>
>>>>tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>--
>>>>Stupendous Man,
>>>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>
>>>2002 TJ
>>>Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>More money in "Their" pocket....
>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
The transition is complicated by observing that a 1/2 inch may fit some
13mm nuts better than a 13mm will.
Don't most decent toolsets just mix metric and inch sizes these days?
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to agree
> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to different
> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>
> Earle
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>
>>On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>of tools that fits best.
>>
>>I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>
>>Merrill
>>
>>Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>
> year it
>
>>>>is.
>>>
>>>>Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>
> probably
>
>>>>aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>
> different
>
>>>>tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>--
>>>>Stupendous Man,
>>>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>
>>>2002 TJ
>>>Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>More money in "Their" pocket....
>>
>
>
13mm nuts better than a 13mm will.
Don't most decent toolsets just mix metric and inch sizes these days?
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to agree
> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to different
> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>
> Earle
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>
>>On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>of tools that fits best.
>>
>>I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>
>>Merrill
>>
>>Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>
> year it
>
>>>>is.
>>>
>>>>Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>
> probably
>
>>>>aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>
> different
>
>>>>tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>--
>>>>Stupendous Man,
>>>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>
>>>2002 TJ
>>>Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>More money in "Their" pocket....
>>
>
>
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm and
> 11/16" to 18mm.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to
>> agree
>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>> different
>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>
>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>
>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>
>>> Merrill
>>>
>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>
>>
>> year it
>>
>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>
>>
>> probably
>>
>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>
>>
>> different
>>
>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm and
> 11/16" to 18mm.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to
>> agree
>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>> different
>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>
>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>
>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>
>>> Merrill
>>>
>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>
>>
>> year it
>>
>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>
>>
>> probably
>>
>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>
>>
>> different
>>
>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm and
> 11/16" to 18mm.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to
>> agree
>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>> different
>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>
>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>
>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>
>>> Merrill
>>>
>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>
>>
>> year it
>>
>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>
>>
>> probably
>>
>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>
>>
>> different
>>
>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm and
> 11/16" to 18mm.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to
>> agree
>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>> different
>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>
>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>
>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>
>>> Merrill
>>>
>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>
>>
>> year it
>>
>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>
>>
>> probably
>>
>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>
>>
>> different
>>
>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm and
> 11/16" to 18mm.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to
>> agree
>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>> different
>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>
>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>
>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>
>>> Merrill
>>>
>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>
>>
>> year it
>>
>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>
>>
>> probably
>>
>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>
>>
>> different
>>
>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm and
> 11/16" to 18mm.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to
>> agree
>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>> different
>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>
>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>
>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>
>>> Merrill
>>>
>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>
>>
>> year it
>>
>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>
>>
>> probably
>>
>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>
>>
>> different
>>
>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm and
> 11/16" to 18mm.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to
>> agree
>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>> different
>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>
>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>
>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>
>>> Merrill
>>>
>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>
>>
>> year it
>>
>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>
>>
>> probably
>>
>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>
>>
>> different
>>
>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm and
> 11/16" to 18mm.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers to
>> agree
>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>> different
>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>
>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>
>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>
>>> Merrill
>>>
>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>
>>
>> year it
>>
>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>
>>
>> probably
>>
>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>
>>
>> different
>>
>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Guest
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Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
:)
The Jeep is bad enough SAE, Metric, and Torix
Lon wrote:
> Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
> sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
>
> RoyJ proclaimed:
>
>> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
>> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
>> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm
>> and 11/16" to 18mm.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers
>>> to agree
>>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>>> different
>>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>>
>>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>>
>>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>>
>>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>>
>>>> Merrill
>>>>
>>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> year it
>>>
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> probably
>>>
>>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> different
>>>
>>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
The Jeep is bad enough SAE, Metric, and Torix
Lon wrote:
> Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
> sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
>
> RoyJ proclaimed:
>
>> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
>> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
>> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm
>> and 11/16" to 18mm.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers
>>> to agree
>>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>>> different
>>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>>
>>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>>
>>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>>
>>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>>
>>>> Merrill
>>>>
>>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> year it
>>>
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> probably
>>>
>>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> different
>>>
>>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
Guest
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Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
:)
The Jeep is bad enough SAE, Metric, and Torix
Lon wrote:
> Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
> sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
>
> RoyJ proclaimed:
>
>> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
>> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
>> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm
>> and 11/16" to 18mm.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers
>>> to agree
>>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>>> different
>>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>>
>>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>>
>>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>>
>>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>>
>>>> Merrill
>>>>
>>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> year it
>>>
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> probably
>>>
>>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> different
>>>
>>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
The Jeep is bad enough SAE, Metric, and Torix
Lon wrote:
> Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
> sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
>
> RoyJ proclaimed:
>
>> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
>> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
>> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm
>> and 11/16" to 18mm.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers
>>> to agree
>>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>>> different
>>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>>
>>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>>
>>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>>
>>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>>
>>>> Merrill
>>>>
>>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> year it
>>>
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> probably
>>>
>>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> different
>>>
>>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Nuts Metric or Std
:)
The Jeep is bad enough SAE, Metric, and Torix
Lon wrote:
> Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
> sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
>
> RoyJ proclaimed:
>
>> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
>> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
>> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm
>> and 11/16" to 18mm.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers
>>> to agree
>>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>>> different
>>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>>
>>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>>
>>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>>
>>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>>
>>>> Merrill
>>>>
>>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> year it
>>>
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> probably
>>>
>>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> different
>>>
>>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
The Jeep is bad enough SAE, Metric, and Torix
Lon wrote:
> Buy a transitional era british sports car where you can enjoy whitworth,
> sae, and metric all within inches of each other.
>
> RoyJ proclaimed:
>
>> Of course the European standards for "suggested" bolt sizes from the
>> 60's and 70's did not include 15mm and 18mm. Then Ford went ahead and
>> did their 'sorta' metrification and changed 9/16" bolt heads to 15mm
>> and 11/16" to 18mm.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>> The transition to metric has taken a long time and is not yet complete.
>>> Worse, "standardization" hasn't done that much to get manufacturers
>>> to agree
>>> on anything. Whenever they can find an excuse to make a part to
>>> different
>>> standards, they all cheerfully do so.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1168644161.614125.71740@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>>
>>>> FWIW, I get out 2 sets of tools for any problem and put a plastic
>>>> garbage can lid under the hood (or close by) so I can fill it with
>>>> hardware and tools as I work. When I get finished, I just put the tools
>>>> away and dump the old parts in the garbage.
>>>>
>>>> On really old rusty hardware I just pick whatever size out of both sets
>>>> of tools that fits best.
>>>>
>>>> I try to keep everything arranged in order to avoid mixing the
>>>> hardware. And yes, I have gone out to buy replacement hardware and
>>>> realized that I got the right size with the wrong thread. I like to
>>>> take the old part with me to check. I thought this was just a Canadian
>>>> problem, but ran into this on vehicles made in USA.
>>>>
>>>> Merrill
>>>>
>>>> Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stupendous Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The short answer is no. Not all domestic cars are metric.
>>>>>> You should hold the Jeep closer to the computer so we can see what
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> year it
>>>
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to make it more confusing, if you are a machinist you are
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> probably
>>>
>>>>>> aware that there are different types of "Metric" threads requiring
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> different
>>>
>>>>>> tooling or techniques to reproduce.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Stupendous Man,
>>>>>> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2002 TJ
>>>>> Yes - the different threads are a PITA as well. I had to go to a
>>>>> hardware store to get a nut for my Honda motorcycle last summer.
>>>>> Insane. It makes everyone everywhere have to buy all sets of tools.
>>>>> More money in "Their" pocket....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
