Jeep info and question
09-03-2005, 11:00 AM
#11
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Re: Jeep info and question
Brick did pass the time by typing:
> Last year we raffled a Mini Cooper and I posted it on one forum and we
> sold a few tickets. We will have a web site soon that will be the place
> to buy tickets with a credit card. Also I can do them personally and
> will be glad to provide any information to enure you we are truely a
> charitable group.
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/
Brick, my advise to you is ask a lawyer as each state has its own
lottery rules (what you are proposing is a lottery by definition and
online gambling in its implementaion) The only exception in Oklahoma
for such a raffle is when the tickets are free and donations are accepted
or are available with purchase of another item (and free on request) as
is done in fast-food peel-n-win style lotteries. Anything else is
likely illegal here.
--
DougW
> Last year we raffled a Mini Cooper and I posted it on one forum and we
> sold a few tickets. We will have a web site soon that will be the place
> to buy tickets with a credit card. Also I can do them personally and
> will be glad to provide any information to enure you we are truely a
> charitable group.
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/
Brick, my advise to you is ask a lawyer as each state has its own
lottery rules (what you are proposing is a lottery by definition and
online gambling in its implementaion) The only exception in Oklahoma
for such a raffle is when the tickets are free and donations are accepted
or are available with purchase of another item (and free on request) as
is done in fast-food peel-n-win style lotteries. Anything else is
likely illegal here.
--
DougW
09-03-2005, 11:00 AM
#12
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Re: Jeep info and question
Brick did pass the time by typing:
> Last year we raffled a Mini Cooper and I posted it on one forum and we
> sold a few tickets. We will have a web site soon that will be the place
> to buy tickets with a credit card. Also I can do them personally and
> will be glad to provide any information to enure you we are truely a
> charitable group.
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/
Brick, my advise to you is ask a lawyer as each state has its own
lottery rules (what you are proposing is a lottery by definition and
online gambling in its implementaion) The only exception in Oklahoma
for such a raffle is when the tickets are free and donations are accepted
or are available with purchase of another item (and free on request) as
is done in fast-food peel-n-win style lotteries. Anything else is
likely illegal here.
--
DougW
> Last year we raffled a Mini Cooper and I posted it on one forum and we
> sold a few tickets. We will have a web site soon that will be the place
> to buy tickets with a credit card. Also I can do them personally and
> will be glad to provide any information to enure you we are truely a
> charitable group.
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/
Brick, my advise to you is ask a lawyer as each state has its own
lottery rules (what you are proposing is a lottery by definition and
online gambling in its implementaion) The only exception in Oklahoma
for such a raffle is when the tickets are free and donations are accepted
or are available with purchase of another item (and free on request) as
is done in fast-food peel-n-win style lotteries. Anything else is
likely illegal here.
--
DougW
09-03-2005, 11:00 AM
#13
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Re: Jeep info and question
Brick did pass the time by typing:
> Last year we raffled a Mini Cooper and I posted it on one forum and we
> sold a few tickets. We will have a web site soon that will be the place
> to buy tickets with a credit card. Also I can do them personally and
> will be glad to provide any information to enure you we are truely a
> charitable group.
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/
Brick, my advise to you is ask a lawyer as each state has its own
lottery rules (what you are proposing is a lottery by definition and
online gambling in its implementaion) The only exception in Oklahoma
for such a raffle is when the tickets are free and donations are accepted
or are available with purchase of another item (and free on request) as
is done in fast-food peel-n-win style lotteries. Anything else is
likely illegal here.
--
DougW
> Last year we raffled a Mini Cooper and I posted it on one forum and we
> sold a few tickets. We will have a web site soon that will be the place
> to buy tickets with a credit card. Also I can do them personally and
> will be glad to provide any information to enure you we are truely a
> charitable group.
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/
Brick, my advise to you is ask a lawyer as each state has its own
lottery rules (what you are proposing is a lottery by definition and
online gambling in its implementaion) The only exception in Oklahoma
for such a raffle is when the tickets are free and donations are accepted
or are available with purchase of another item (and free on request) as
is done in fast-food peel-n-win style lotteries. Anything else is
likely illegal here.
--
DougW
09-03-2005, 04:26 PM
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Re: Jeep info and question
Hi Matt,
I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at all
> in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a commercial
> post, so why would it not by OK?
>
> My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a good
> idea.
I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at all
> in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a commercial
> post, so why would it not by OK?
>
> My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a good
> idea.
09-03-2005, 04:26 PM
#15
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Re: Jeep info and question
Hi Matt,
I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at all
> in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a commercial
> post, so why would it not by OK?
>
> My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a good
> idea.
I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at all
> in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a commercial
> post, so why would it not by OK?
>
> My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a good
> idea.
09-03-2005, 04:26 PM
#16
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Re: Jeep info and question
Hi Matt,
I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at all
> in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a commercial
> post, so why would it not by OK?
>
> My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a good
> idea.
I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at all
> in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a commercial
> post, so why would it not by OK?
>
> My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a good
> idea.
09-03-2005, 04:26 PM
#17
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Re: Jeep info and question
Hi Matt,
I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at all
> in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a commercial
> post, so why would it not by OK?
>
> My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a good
> idea.
I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at all
> in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a commercial
> post, so why would it not by OK?
>
> My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a good
> idea.
09-04-2005, 02:57 AM
#18
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Re: Jeep info and question
Afaik, Jerry's Kids and the Red Cross don't get money by raffles. They rely
on free donations of time and money. This discussion brings to mind a
number of scandals involving United Way and Red Cross here in Western
Colorado. To my way of thinking, the best charity begins at home. You have
to question why this guy can't get enough donations locally, and has to take
it to a national, or international really, news group.
That is why I prefer to donate time, instead of money. You have some
control, and you get to see, what good it does. God helps those, who help
themselves.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431A06E5.BD969BE@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
> friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
> comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
> other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
> A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
> be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
> Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at
all
> > in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a
commercial
> > post, so why would it not by OK?
> >
> > My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> > announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a
good
> > idea.
on free donations of time and money. This discussion brings to mind a
number of scandals involving United Way and Red Cross here in Western
Colorado. To my way of thinking, the best charity begins at home. You have
to question why this guy can't get enough donations locally, and has to take
it to a national, or international really, news group.
That is why I prefer to donate time, instead of money. You have some
control, and you get to see, what good it does. God helps those, who help
themselves.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431A06E5.BD969BE@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
> friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
> comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
> other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
> A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
> be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
> Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at
all
> > in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a
commercial
> > post, so why would it not by OK?
> >
> > My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> > announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a
good
> > idea.
09-04-2005, 02:57 AM
#19
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Re: Jeep info and question
Afaik, Jerry's Kids and the Red Cross don't get money by raffles. They rely
on free donations of time and money. This discussion brings to mind a
number of scandals involving United Way and Red Cross here in Western
Colorado. To my way of thinking, the best charity begins at home. You have
to question why this guy can't get enough donations locally, and has to take
it to a national, or international really, news group.
That is why I prefer to donate time, instead of money. You have some
control, and you get to see, what good it does. God helps those, who help
themselves.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431A06E5.BD969BE@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
> friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
> comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
> other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
> A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
> be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
> Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at
all
> > in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a
commercial
> > post, so why would it not by OK?
> >
> > My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> > announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a
good
> > idea.
on free donations of time and money. This discussion brings to mind a
number of scandals involving United Way and Red Cross here in Western
Colorado. To my way of thinking, the best charity begins at home. You have
to question why this guy can't get enough donations locally, and has to take
it to a national, or international really, news group.
That is why I prefer to donate time, instead of money. You have some
control, and you get to see, what good it does. God helps those, who help
themselves.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431A06E5.BD969BE@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
> friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
> comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
> other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
> A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
> be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
> Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at
all
> > in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a
commercial
> > post, so why would it not by OK?
> >
> > My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> > announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a
good
> > idea.
09-04-2005, 02:57 AM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep info and question
Afaik, Jerry's Kids and the Red Cross don't get money by raffles. They rely
on free donations of time and money. This discussion brings to mind a
number of scandals involving United Way and Red Cross here in Western
Colorado. To my way of thinking, the best charity begins at home. You have
to question why this guy can't get enough donations locally, and has to take
it to a national, or international really, news group.
That is why I prefer to donate time, instead of money. You have some
control, and you get to see, what good it does. God helps those, who help
themselves.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431A06E5.BD969BE@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
> friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
> comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
> other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
> A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
> be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
> Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at
all
> > in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a
commercial
> > post, so why would it not by OK?
> >
> > My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> > announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a
good
> > idea.
on free donations of time and money. This discussion brings to mind a
number of scandals involving United Way and Red Cross here in Western
Colorado. To my way of thinking, the best charity begins at home. You have
to question why this guy can't get enough donations locally, and has to take
it to a national, or international really, news group.
That is why I prefer to donate time, instead of money. You have some
control, and you get to see, what good it does. God helps those, who help
themselves.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431A06E5.BD969BE@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> I have a feeling about this Jeep raffle, it's kind of like what a
> friend's church had, in which he being the husband of one of it's
> comities, won the new GMC, surprise, surprise. And I know of a couple of
> other gas station raffles of the sixties that were not on the up and up.
> A pretty new '65 Cadillac a relation won. So I don't want this group to
> be apart of it. Let Jerry's Kids, or other commercial drives like the
> Red Cross, post here, that would be all right with me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe it *doesn't* fit, charitable drives aren't mentioned at
all
> > in the charter, especially in the "forbidden" list. This isn't a
commercial
> > post, so why would it not by OK?
> >
> > My advice, set up a Pay Pal account to sell tickets online, then post an
> > announcement with "OT" in the subject line for Off Topic. Sounds like a
good
> > idea.