Thanks for the response.

A truck camper lacks the storage space we need when extended camping,
otherwise, done that, works well. Could do that and also tow an enclosed
car hauler for extra storage. Have to think on that.

Don't want to modify the truck. I've seen the ramps for the bed but that
puts my load weight/center of gravity too high.

Re: towing Jeeps. Jeep says don't tow with the front wheels on a dolly,
either use a trailer or tow with all 4 wheels on the ground. Don't know
why but it they say so .

Re: backing doubles. When towing another vehicle with 4 wheels down, you
cannot back up or the front wheels of the toad will crank sideways causing
undue stress to the hitch components/tow bar. Otherwise, backing doubles
isn't too bad for short distances (a few feet, done that). I have great
admiration for those pros who can back doubles, including turns. I don't
think there are more than a couple dozen of them out there.

 

Thanks for the response.

A truck camper lacks the storage space we need when extended camping,
otherwise, done that, works well. Could do that and also tow an enclosed
car hauler for extra storage. Have to think on that.

Don't want to modify the truck. I've seen the ramps for the bed but that
puts my load weight/center of gravity too high.

Re: towing Jeeps. Jeep says don't tow with the front wheels on a dolly,
either use a trailer or tow with all 4 wheels on the ground. Don't know
why but it they say so .

Re: backing doubles. When towing another vehicle with 4 wheels down, you
cannot back up or the front wheels of the toad will crank sideways causing
undue stress to the hitch components/tow bar. Otherwise, backing doubles
isn't too bad for short distances (a few feet, done that). I have great
admiration for those pros who can back doubles, including turns. I don't
think there are more than a couple dozen of them out there.

 

> I have great
>admiration for those pros who can back doubles, including turns. I don't
>think there are more than a couple dozen of them out there.

There are more than you might think. Work Ag for a few seasons and you
will become very good at it. The secret is being able to SEE the
drawbar and turntable of the 2nd trailer, otherwise you have no idea
where it's going. This is why it's generally easier to back up in a
left-hand turn than straight-on: you can spot everything from the LH
mirror.

Here's something for you to think about. If you have the Jeep hitched
on as the last vehicle and you absolutely HAVE to back up, just fire up
that TJ, put everything else in neutral, and use the Jeep to 'pull'
everything backward anywhere you want it to go. You can easily 'pull'
the whole thing in a circle if need be.

-JD

 

> I have great
>admiration for those pros who can back doubles, including turns. I don't
>think there are more than a couple dozen of them out there.

There are more than you might think. Work Ag for a few seasons and you
will become very good at it. The secret is being able to SEE the
drawbar and turntable of the 2nd trailer, otherwise you have no idea
where it's going. This is why it's generally easier to back up in a
left-hand turn than straight-on: you can spot everything from the LH
mirror.

Here's something for you to think about. If you have the Jeep hitched
on as the last vehicle and you absolutely HAVE to back up, just fire up
that TJ, put everything else in neutral, and use the Jeep to 'pull'
everything backward anywhere you want it to go. You can easily 'pull'
the whole thing in a circle if need be.

-JD

 

> I have great
>admiration for those pros who can back doubles, including turns. I don't
>think there are more than a couple dozen of them out there.

There are more than you might think. Work Ag for a few seasons and you
will become very good at it. The secret is being able to SEE the
drawbar and turntable of the 2nd trailer, otherwise you have no idea
where it's going. This is why it's generally easier to back up in a
left-hand turn than straight-on: you can spot everything from the LH
mirror.

Here's something for you to think about. If you have the Jeep hitched
on as the last vehicle and you absolutely HAVE to back up, just fire up
that TJ, put everything else in neutral, and use the Jeep to 'pull'
everything backward anywhere you want it to go. You can easily 'pull'
the whole thing in a circle if need be.

-JD

 

Hmmmm. Excellent idea about pulling the whole rig with the Jeep.

I've pulled doubles before (milk tanks) but never needed to back up other
than a few feet to hit the nozzle. I friend used to be a mechanic for
Lucky Market and he told about one trucker who was in and out of the loading
dock far quicker than any other double puller because he would just back his
back trailer up to the dock, unhook it, and then back the first trailer in
alongside it. My friend said that whenever this guy pulled into the lot,
everyone would come out and watch him back up. Sounded a lot like going
to a truck rodeo!

 

Hmmmm. Excellent idea about pulling the whole rig with the Jeep.

I've pulled doubles before (milk tanks) but never needed to back up other
than a few feet to hit the nozzle. I friend used to be a mechanic for
Lucky Market and he told about one trucker who was in and out of the loading
dock far quicker than any other double puller because he would just back his
back trailer up to the dock, unhook it, and then back the first trailer in
alongside it. My friend said that whenever this guy pulled into the lot,
everyone would come out and watch him back up. Sounded a lot like going
to a truck rodeo!

 

Hmmmm. Excellent idea about pulling the whole rig with the Jeep.

I've pulled doubles before (milk tanks) but never needed to back up other
than a few feet to hit the nozzle. I friend used to be a mechanic for
Lucky Market and he told about one trucker who was in and out of the loading
dock far quicker than any other double puller because he would just back his
back trailer up to the dock, unhook it, and then back the first trailer in
alongside it. My friend said that whenever this guy pulled into the lot,
everyone would come out and watch him back up. Sounded a lot like going
to a truck rodeo!

 

I knew a gal who could back 28-ft. doubles in a circle. Watched her do
it, in fact, she showed off a bit and backed them around a circle
TWICE. True story. I was astonished, and still am to this day. I
wish I had a videocamera with me.

Yes, if you have all 4 wheels of the Jeep on the ground, you can use it
to 'pull' everything back out of whatever you've gotten yourself into
if need be. Easier if you have someone put the pickup in reverse,
steer it around corners and modulate the brakes. I run bottom dumps
these days, and if we get in a jam, we chain up another tractor to the
stinger, lock the axle and pull the whole thing backward, turns and all
with no problem.

Food for thought.

-JD

 

I knew a gal who could back 28-ft. doubles in a circle. Watched her do
it, in fact, she showed off a bit and backed them around a circle
TWICE. True story. I was astonished, and still am to this day. I
wish I had a videocamera with me.

Yes, if you have all 4 wheels of the Jeep on the ground, you can use it
to 'pull' everything back out of whatever you've gotten yourself into
if need be. Easier if you have someone put the pickup in reverse,
steer it around corners and modulate the brakes. I run bottom dumps
these days, and if we get in a jam, we chain up another tractor to the
stinger, lock the axle and pull the whole thing backward, turns and all
with no problem.

Food for thought.

-JD