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ky_jeep_girl via CarKB.com 11-05-2005 09:59 PM

Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
I have a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee and the problem with the headlights is that
there is some kind of film on them and I do NOT know what it is or how to get
it off. When I get them wet they look like they are gonna be ok but a second
later when they dry, it is that same old thick film on them and cannot hardly
see out of them. Anyone else have this problem or know of anything I could
use to try to clean them? Thanks!

yjarray 11-05-2005 10:27 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
If they're glass, try a Scotchbrite pad.

If they're plastic, get some Brasso or Meguiars plastic polish.


Dick 11-05-2005 11:59 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Did you buy the car new? There are thick films made by 3-M that go
over the glass to protect from flying rocks. Maybe someone put that
on?

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:59:59 GMT, "ky_jeep_girl via CarKB.com"
<u15503@uwe> wrote:

>I have a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee and the problem with the headlights is that
>there is some kind of film on them and I do NOT know what it is or how to get
>it off. When I get them wet they look like they are gonna be ok but a second
>later when they dry, it is that same old thick film on them and cannot hardly
>see out of them. Anyone else have this problem or know of anything I could
>use to try to clean them? Thanks!



Jim Chinnis 11-06-2005 11:37 AM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
"ky_jeep_girl via CarKB.com" <u15503@uwe> wrote in part:

>I have a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee and the problem with the headlights is that
>there is some kind of film on them and I do NOT know what it is or how to get
>it off. When I get them wet they look like they are gonna be ok but a second
>later when they dry, it is that same old thick film on them and cannot hardly
>see out of them. Anyone else have this problem or know of anything I could
>use to try to clean them? Thanks!


This is a wide------ problem not limited to Jeep. Most cars with the newer
plastic headlights suffer from it, and after a few years, night vision is
severely compromised. The problem appears to be a change in the plastic
caused by sunlight.

I have a 1999 Grand Cherokee and after trying all sorts of cleaners on the
lenses, I gave up and bought new ones to the tune of $600. Junkyards had
some Grand Cherokees with the right headlights, but they were just as opaque
as mine.

After I replaced the headlight assemblies, I shattered one of the old ones
(not easy!) and looked at the plastic lens from the edge. It was opaque all
the way through.

Remember when you could buy a new glass headlight for about $5?
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Jim Chinnis 11-06-2005 11:37 AM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
"ky_jeep_girl via CarKB.com" <u15503@uwe> wrote in part:

>I have a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee and the problem with the headlights is that
>there is some kind of film on them and I do NOT know what it is or how to get
>it off. When I get them wet they look like they are gonna be ok but a second
>later when they dry, it is that same old thick film on them and cannot hardly
>see out of them. Anyone else have this problem or know of anything I could
>use to try to clean them? Thanks!


This is a wide------ problem not limited to Jeep. Most cars with the newer
plastic headlights suffer from it, and after a few years, night vision is
severely compromised. The problem appears to be a change in the plastic
caused by sunlight.

I have a 1999 Grand Cherokee and after trying all sorts of cleaners on the
lenses, I gave up and bought new ones to the tune of $600. Junkyards had
some Grand Cherokees with the right headlights, but they were just as opaque
as mine.

After I replaced the headlight assemblies, I shattered one of the old ones
(not easy!) and looked at the plastic lens from the edge. It was opaque all
the way through.

Remember when you could buy a new glass headlight for about $5?
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Jim Chinnis 11-06-2005 11:37 AM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
"ky_jeep_girl via CarKB.com" <u15503@uwe> wrote in part:

>I have a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee and the problem with the headlights is that
>there is some kind of film on them and I do NOT know what it is or how to get
>it off. When I get them wet they look like they are gonna be ok but a second
>later when they dry, it is that same old thick film on them and cannot hardly
>see out of them. Anyone else have this problem or know of anything I could
>use to try to clean them? Thanks!


This is a wide------ problem not limited to Jeep. Most cars with the newer
plastic headlights suffer from it, and after a few years, night vision is
severely compromised. The problem appears to be a change in the plastic
caused by sunlight.

I have a 1999 Grand Cherokee and after trying all sorts of cleaners on the
lenses, I gave up and bought new ones to the tune of $600. Junkyards had
some Grand Cherokees with the right headlights, but they were just as opaque
as mine.

After I replaced the headlight assemblies, I shattered one of the old ones
(not easy!) and looked at the plastic lens from the edge. It was opaque all
the way through.

Remember when you could buy a new glass headlight for about $5?
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 01:11 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
I makes me wonder about the wisdom of our manufacturers, ten bucks
will buy my Bronco a new crystal clear sealed headlight.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jim Chinnis wrote:
>
> This is a wide------ problem not limited to Jeep. Most cars with the newer
> plastic headlights suffer from it, and after a few years, night vision is
> severely compromised. The problem appears to be a change in the plastic
> caused by sunlight.
>
> I have a 1999 Grand Cherokee and after trying all sorts of cleaners on the
> lenses, I gave up and bought new ones to the tune of $600. Junkyards had
> some Grand Cherokees with the right headlights, but they were just as opaque
> as mine.
>
> After I replaced the headlight assemblies, I shattered one of the old ones
> (not easy!) and looked at the plastic lens from the edge. It was opaque all
> the way through.
>
> Remember when you could buy a new glass headlight for about $5?
> --
> Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 01:11 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
I makes me wonder about the wisdom of our manufacturers, ten bucks
will buy my Bronco a new crystal clear sealed headlight.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jim Chinnis wrote:
>
> This is a wide------ problem not limited to Jeep. Most cars with the newer
> plastic headlights suffer from it, and after a few years, night vision is
> severely compromised. The problem appears to be a change in the plastic
> caused by sunlight.
>
> I have a 1999 Grand Cherokee and after trying all sorts of cleaners on the
> lenses, I gave up and bought new ones to the tune of $600. Junkyards had
> some Grand Cherokees with the right headlights, but they were just as opaque
> as mine.
>
> After I replaced the headlight assemblies, I shattered one of the old ones
> (not easy!) and looked at the plastic lens from the edge. It was opaque all
> the way through.
>
> Remember when you could buy a new glass headlight for about $5?
> --
> Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 01:11 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
I makes me wonder about the wisdom of our manufacturers, ten bucks
will buy my Bronco a new crystal clear sealed headlight.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jim Chinnis wrote:
>
> This is a wide------ problem not limited to Jeep. Most cars with the newer
> plastic headlights suffer from it, and after a few years, night vision is
> severely compromised. The problem appears to be a change in the plastic
> caused by sunlight.
>
> I have a 1999 Grand Cherokee and after trying all sorts of cleaners on the
> lenses, I gave up and bought new ones to the tune of $600. Junkyards had
> some Grand Cherokees with the right headlights, but they were just as opaque
> as mine.
>
> After I replaced the headlight assemblies, I shattered one of the old ones
> (not easy!) and looked at the plastic lens from the edge. It was opaque all
> the way through.
>
> Remember when you could buy a new glass headlight for about $5?
> --
> Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA


Earle Horton 11-06-2005 02:37 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
It's all about looking good coming off the assembly line. This all has me
thinking that my wife is right about the headlights on our Civic. Damn.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E4750.8217901F@cox.net...
> I makes me wonder about the wisdom of our manufacturers, ten bucks
> will buy my Bronco a new crystal clear sealed headlight.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jim Chinnis wrote:
> >
> > This is a wide------ problem not limited to Jeep. Most cars with the

newer
> > plastic headlights suffer from it, and after a few years, night vision

is
> > severely compromised. The problem appears to be a change in the plastic
> > caused by sunlight.
> >
> > I have a 1999 Grand Cherokee and after trying all sorts of cleaners on

the
> > lenses, I gave up and bought new ones to the tune of $600. Junkyards had
> > some Grand Cherokees with the right headlights, but they were just as

opaque
> > as mine.
> >
> > After I replaced the headlight assemblies, I shattered one of the old

ones
> > (not easy!) and looked at the plastic lens from the edge. It was opaque

all
> > the way through.
> >
> > Remember when you could buy a new glass headlight for about $5?
> > --
> > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

>




Earle Horton 11-06-2005 02:37 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
It's all about looking good coming off the assembly line. This all has me
thinking that my wife is right about the headlights on our Civic. Damn.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E4750.8217901F@cox.net...
> I makes me wonder about the wisdom of our manufacturers, ten bucks
> will buy my Bronco a new crystal clear sealed headlight.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jim Chinnis wrote:
> >
> > This is a wide------ problem not limited to Jeep. Most cars with the

newer
> > plastic headlights suffer from it, and after a few years, night vision

is
> > severely compromised. The problem appears to be a change in the plastic
> > caused by sunlight.
> >
> > I have a 1999 Grand Cherokee and after trying all sorts of cleaners on

the
> > lenses, I gave up and bought new ones to the tune of $600. Junkyards had
> > some Grand Cherokees with the right headlights, but they were just as

opaque
> > as mine.
> >
> > After I replaced the headlight assemblies, I shattered one of the old

ones
> > (not easy!) and looked at the plastic lens from the edge. It was opaque

all
> > the way through.
> >
> > Remember when you could buy a new glass headlight for about $5?
> > --
> > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

>




Earle Horton 11-06-2005 02:37 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
It's all about looking good coming off the assembly line. This all has me
thinking that my wife is right about the headlights on our Civic. Damn.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E4750.8217901F@cox.net...
> I makes me wonder about the wisdom of our manufacturers, ten bucks
> will buy my Bronco a new crystal clear sealed headlight.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jim Chinnis wrote:
> >
> > This is a wide------ problem not limited to Jeep. Most cars with the

newer
> > plastic headlights suffer from it, and after a few years, night vision

is
> > severely compromised. The problem appears to be a change in the plastic
> > caused by sunlight.
> >
> > I have a 1999 Grand Cherokee and after trying all sorts of cleaners on

the
> > lenses, I gave up and bought new ones to the tune of $600. Junkyards had
> > some Grand Cherokees with the right headlights, but they were just as

opaque
> > as mine.
> >
> > After I replaced the headlight assemblies, I shattered one of the old

ones
> > (not easy!) and looked at the plastic lens from the edge. It was opaque

all
> > the way through.
> >
> > Remember when you could buy a new glass headlight for about $5?
> > --
> > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 03:07 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Hi Earle,
Does Spain use these very weak yellow headlights like france? I
enjoyed being the ugly American driving my '58 Ford with four very
bright sealed beams through Paris. :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> It's all about looking good coming off the assembly line. This all has me
> thinking that my wife is right about the headlights on our Civic. Damn.
>
> Earle


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 03:07 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Hi Earle,
Does Spain use these very weak yellow headlights like france? I
enjoyed being the ugly American driving my '58 Ford with four very
bright sealed beams through Paris. :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> It's all about looking good coming off the assembly line. This all has me
> thinking that my wife is right about the headlights on our Civic. Damn.
>
> Earle


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 03:07 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Hi Earle,
Does Spain use these very weak yellow headlights like france? I
enjoyed being the ugly American driving my '58 Ford with four very
bright sealed beams through Paris. :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> It's all about looking good coming off the assembly line. This all has me
> thinking that my wife is right about the headlights on our Civic. Damn.
>
> Earle


Earle Horton 11-06-2005 03:33 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
everything. :-)

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E6271.902729E4@cox.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Does Spain use these very weak yellow headlights like france? I
> enjoyed being the ugly American driving my '58 Ford with four very
> bright sealed beams through Paris. :-)
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > It's all about looking good coming off the assembly line. This all has

me
> > thinking that my wife is right about the headlights on our Civic. Damn.
> >
> > Earle

>




Earle Horton 11-06-2005 03:33 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
everything. :-)

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E6271.902729E4@cox.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Does Spain use these very weak yellow headlights like france? I
> enjoyed being the ugly American driving my '58 Ford with four very
> bright sealed beams through Paris. :-)
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > It's all about looking good coming off the assembly line. This all has

me
> > thinking that my wife is right about the headlights on our Civic. Damn.
> >
> > Earle

>




Earle Horton 11-06-2005 03:33 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
everything. :-)

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E6271.902729E4@cox.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Does Spain use these very weak yellow headlights like france? I
> enjoyed being the ugly American driving my '58 Ford with four very
> bright sealed beams through Paris. :-)
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > It's all about looking good coming off the assembly line. This all has

me
> > thinking that my wife is right about the headlights on our Civic. Damn.
> >
> > Earle

>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 03:40 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
wonder it's burning.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
> everything. :-)
>
> Earle


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 03:40 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
wonder it's burning.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
> everything. :-)
>
> Earle


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 03:40 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
wonder it's burning.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
> everything. :-)
>
> Earle


Troy 11-06-2005 03:53 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
When I used to work in a body shop, whenever someone came in with the
plastic lenses, I'd buff them with the paint buffer and some compound, most
of the time it would clear them up.

Troy



Troy 11-06-2005 03:53 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
When I used to work in a body shop, whenever someone came in with the
plastic lenses, I'd buff them with the paint buffer and some compound, most
of the time it would clear them up.

Troy



Troy 11-06-2005 03:53 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
When I used to work in a body shop, whenever someone came in with the
plastic lenses, I'd buff them with the paint buffer and some compound, most
of the time it would clear them up.

Troy



Billy Ray 11-06-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
What kind of polishing compound did you use? Foam or lambswool pad?

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"Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in message
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> When I used to work in a body shop, whenever someone came in with the
> plastic lenses, I'd buff them with the paint buffer and some compound,
> most of the time it would clear them up.
>
> Troy
>




Billy Ray 11-06-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
What kind of polishing compound did you use? Foam or lambswool pad?

--
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Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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"Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in message
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> When I used to work in a body shop, whenever someone came in with the
> plastic lenses, I'd buff them with the paint buffer and some compound,
> most of the time it would clear them up.
>
> Troy
>




Billy Ray 11-06-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
What kind of polishing compound did you use? Foam or lambswool pad?

--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in message
news:zqWdnZ-Qa_V49vPeRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> When I used to work in a body shop, whenever someone came in with the
> plastic lenses, I'd buff them with the paint buffer and some compound,
> most of the time it would clear them up.
>
> Troy
>




Earle Horton 11-06-2005 05:00 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Haven't seen anything like that. I have seen quite a few of these though.

http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-10-017.html

I saw a Ford Excursion last month. There are even motor homes. I think
that the most annoying thing, are the motor scooters, that sound like a
chain saw in the middle of the night. I could do without that. There may
be more Jeep Grand Cherokees over here, than in the States. Not all of them
are diesel, either. With gasoline over $1.50 a liter, how does that work?

I haven't driven much since I came here. I did drive from Madrid to the
Basque Country, when I first came. I think now, that one of the reasons I
came here, besides the Spanish courses, are the trains. You can take a
train, almost anywhere. My son in law, who learned to drive in France, says
that he is afraid to drive in the cities here. I have tried it, and I
agree. I think that once I get done with school, I am going to rent a car,
and drive to Galicia or maybe Portugal. The worst part is the exchange
rate. When my daughter was here, a Euro was worth about $0.80. Now it's at
$1.25. On the bright side, this means that you don't see many American
tourists.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E6A25.FED3FFC7@cox.net...
> WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
> http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
> wonder it's burning.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
> > everything. :-)
> >
> > Earle




Earle Horton 11-06-2005 05:00 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Haven't seen anything like that. I have seen quite a few of these though.

http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-10-017.html

I saw a Ford Excursion last month. There are even motor homes. I think
that the most annoying thing, are the motor scooters, that sound like a
chain saw in the middle of the night. I could do without that. There may
be more Jeep Grand Cherokees over here, than in the States. Not all of them
are diesel, either. With gasoline over $1.50 a liter, how does that work?

I haven't driven much since I came here. I did drive from Madrid to the
Basque Country, when I first came. I think now, that one of the reasons I
came here, besides the Spanish courses, are the trains. You can take a
train, almost anywhere. My son in law, who learned to drive in France, says
that he is afraid to drive in the cities here. I have tried it, and I
agree. I think that once I get done with school, I am going to rent a car,
and drive to Galicia or maybe Portugal. The worst part is the exchange
rate. When my daughter was here, a Euro was worth about $0.80. Now it's at
$1.25. On the bright side, this means that you don't see many American
tourists.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E6A25.FED3FFC7@cox.net...
> WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
> http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
> wonder it's burning.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
> > everything. :-)
> >
> > Earle




Earle Horton 11-06-2005 05:00 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Haven't seen anything like that. I have seen quite a few of these though.

http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-10-017.html

I saw a Ford Excursion last month. There are even motor homes. I think
that the most annoying thing, are the motor scooters, that sound like a
chain saw in the middle of the night. I could do without that. There may
be more Jeep Grand Cherokees over here, than in the States. Not all of them
are diesel, either. With gasoline over $1.50 a liter, how does that work?

I haven't driven much since I came here. I did drive from Madrid to the
Basque Country, when I first came. I think now, that one of the reasons I
came here, besides the Spanish courses, are the trains. You can take a
train, almost anywhere. My son in law, who learned to drive in France, says
that he is afraid to drive in the cities here. I have tried it, and I
agree. I think that once I get done with school, I am going to rent a car,
and drive to Galicia or maybe Portugal. The worst part is the exchange
rate. When my daughter was here, a Euro was worth about $0.80. Now it's at
$1.25. On the bright side, this means that you don't see many American
tourists.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E6A25.FED3FFC7@cox.net...
> WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
> http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
> wonder it's burning.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
> > everything. :-)
> >
> > Earle




Jim Chinnis 11-06-2005 05:44 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
"Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in part:

>When I used to work in a body shop, whenever someone came in with the
>plastic lenses, I'd buff them with the paint buffer and some compound, most
>of the time it would clear them up.
>
>Troy


According to my headlight post mortem, the compound I buffed with just
removed the outer bit of opaque plastic. At first, it's only opaque on the
outside surface. Later, the UV light reaches deeper and you are outta luck.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Jim Chinnis 11-06-2005 05:44 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
"Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in part:

>When I used to work in a body shop, whenever someone came in with the
>plastic lenses, I'd buff them with the paint buffer and some compound, most
>of the time it would clear them up.
>
>Troy


According to my headlight post mortem, the compound I buffed with just
removed the outer bit of opaque plastic. At first, it's only opaque on the
outside surface. Later, the UV light reaches deeper and you are outta luck.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Jim Chinnis 11-06-2005 05:44 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
"Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in part:

>When I used to work in a body shop, whenever someone came in with the
>plastic lenses, I'd buff them with the paint buffer and some compound, most
>of the time it would clear them up.
>
>Troy


According to my headlight post mortem, the compound I buffed with just
removed the outer bit of opaque plastic. At first, it's only opaque on the
outside surface. Later, the UV light reaches deeper and you are outta luck.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 06:20 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Hi Earle,
Thanks for filling me in. I still haven't figured out what you're
doing, must be a class in something. I would consider it a prison
sentence, like when I was in the ARMY, stationed in Germany.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Haven't seen anything like that. I have seen quite a few of these though.
>
> http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-10-017.html
>
> I saw a Ford Excursion last month. There are even motor homes. I think
> that the most annoying thing, are the motor scooters, that sound like a
> chain saw in the middle of the night. I could do without that. There may
> be more Jeep Grand Cherokees over here, than in the States. Not all of them
> are diesel, either. With gasoline over $1.50 a liter, how does that work?
>
> I haven't driven much since I came here. I did drive from Madrid to the
> Basque Country, when I first came. I think now, that one of the reasons I
> came here, besides the Spanish courses, are the trains. You can take a
> train, almost anywhere. My son in law, who learned to drive in France, says
> that he is afraid to drive in the cities here. I have tried it, and I
> agree. I think that once I get done with school, I am going to rent a car,
> and drive to Galicia or maybe Portugal. The worst part is the exchange
> rate. When my daughter was here, a Euro was worth about $0.80. Now it's at
> $1.25. On the bright side, this means that you don't see many American
> tourists.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:436E6A25.FED3FFC7@cox.net...
> > WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
> > http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
> > wonder it's burning.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
> > > everything. :-)
> > >
> > > Earle


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 06:20 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Hi Earle,
Thanks for filling me in. I still haven't figured out what you're
doing, must be a class in something. I would consider it a prison
sentence, like when I was in the ARMY, stationed in Germany.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Haven't seen anything like that. I have seen quite a few of these though.
>
> http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-10-017.html
>
> I saw a Ford Excursion last month. There are even motor homes. I think
> that the most annoying thing, are the motor scooters, that sound like a
> chain saw in the middle of the night. I could do without that. There may
> be more Jeep Grand Cherokees over here, than in the States. Not all of them
> are diesel, either. With gasoline over $1.50 a liter, how does that work?
>
> I haven't driven much since I came here. I did drive from Madrid to the
> Basque Country, when I first came. I think now, that one of the reasons I
> came here, besides the Spanish courses, are the trains. You can take a
> train, almost anywhere. My son in law, who learned to drive in France, says
> that he is afraid to drive in the cities here. I have tried it, and I
> agree. I think that once I get done with school, I am going to rent a car,
> and drive to Galicia or maybe Portugal. The worst part is the exchange
> rate. When my daughter was here, a Euro was worth about $0.80. Now it's at
> $1.25. On the bright side, this means that you don't see many American
> tourists.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:436E6A25.FED3FFC7@cox.net...
> > WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
> > http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
> > wonder it's burning.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
> > > everything. :-)
> > >
> > > Earle


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 06:20 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Hi Earle,
Thanks for filling me in. I still haven't figured out what you're
doing, must be a class in something. I would consider it a prison
sentence, like when I was in the ARMY, stationed in Germany.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Haven't seen anything like that. I have seen quite a few of these though.
>
> http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-10-017.html
>
> I saw a Ford Excursion last month. There are even motor homes. I think
> that the most annoying thing, are the motor scooters, that sound like a
> chain saw in the middle of the night. I could do without that. There may
> be more Jeep Grand Cherokees over here, than in the States. Not all of them
> are diesel, either. With gasoline over $1.50 a liter, how does that work?
>
> I haven't driven much since I came here. I did drive from Madrid to the
> Basque Country, when I first came. I think now, that one of the reasons I
> came here, besides the Spanish courses, are the trains. You can take a
> train, almost anywhere. My son in law, who learned to drive in France, says
> that he is afraid to drive in the cities here. I have tried it, and I
> agree. I think that once I get done with school, I am going to rent a car,
> and drive to Galicia or maybe Portugal. The worst part is the exchange
> rate. When my daughter was here, a Euro was worth about $0.80. Now it's at
> $1.25. On the bright side, this means that you don't see many American
> tourists.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:436E6A25.FED3FFC7@cox.net...
> > WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
> > http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
> > wonder it's burning.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
> > > everything. :-)
> > >
> > > Earle


Billy Ray 11-06-2005 06:39 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
You did not enjoy the beer, brats, and frauleins?

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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E8FAE.E3D5269E@cox.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Thanks for filling me in. I still haven't figured out what you're
> doing, must be a class in something. I would consider it a prison
> sentence, like when I was in the ARMY, stationed in Germany.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> Haven't seen anything like that. I have seen quite a few of these
>> though.
>>
>> http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-10-017.html
>>
>> I saw a Ford Excursion last month. There are even motor homes. I think
>> that the most annoying thing, are the motor scooters, that sound like a
>> chain saw in the middle of the night. I could do without that. There
>> may
>> be more Jeep Grand Cherokees over here, than in the States. Not all of
>> them
>> are diesel, either. With gasoline over $1.50 a liter, how does that
>> work?
>>
>> I haven't driven much since I came here. I did drive from Madrid to the
>> Basque Country, when I first came. I think now, that one of the reasons
>> I
>> came here, besides the Spanish courses, are the trains. You can take a
>> train, almost anywhere. My son in law, who learned to drive in France,
>> says
>> that he is afraid to drive in the cities here. I have tried it, and I
>> agree. I think that once I get done with school, I am going to rent a
>> car,
>> and drive to Galicia or maybe Portugal. The worst part is the exchange
>> rate. When my daughter was here, a Euro was worth about $0.80. Now it's
>> at
>> $1.25. On the bright side, this means that you don't see many American
>> tourists.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:436E6A25.FED3FFC7@cox.net...
>> > WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
>> > http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
>> > wonder it's burning.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> > >
>> > > When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
>> > > everything. :-)
>> > >
>> > > Earle




Billy Ray 11-06-2005 06:39 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
You did not enjoy the beer, brats, and frauleins?

--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E8FAE.E3D5269E@cox.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Thanks for filling me in. I still haven't figured out what you're
> doing, must be a class in something. I would consider it a prison
> sentence, like when I was in the ARMY, stationed in Germany.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> Haven't seen anything like that. I have seen quite a few of these
>> though.
>>
>> http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-10-017.html
>>
>> I saw a Ford Excursion last month. There are even motor homes. I think
>> that the most annoying thing, are the motor scooters, that sound like a
>> chain saw in the middle of the night. I could do without that. There
>> may
>> be more Jeep Grand Cherokees over here, than in the States. Not all of
>> them
>> are diesel, either. With gasoline over $1.50 a liter, how does that
>> work?
>>
>> I haven't driven much since I came here. I did drive from Madrid to the
>> Basque Country, when I first came. I think now, that one of the reasons
>> I
>> came here, besides the Spanish courses, are the trains. You can take a
>> train, almost anywhere. My son in law, who learned to drive in France,
>> says
>> that he is afraid to drive in the cities here. I have tried it, and I
>> agree. I think that once I get done with school, I am going to rent a
>> car,
>> and drive to Galicia or maybe Portugal. The worst part is the exchange
>> rate. When my daughter was here, a Euro was worth about $0.80. Now it's
>> at
>> $1.25. On the bright side, this means that you don't see many American
>> tourists.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:436E6A25.FED3FFC7@cox.net...
>> > WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
>> > http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
>> > wonder it's burning.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> > >
>> > > When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
>> > > everything. :-)
>> > >
>> > > Earle




Billy Ray 11-06-2005 06:39 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
You did not enjoy the beer, brats, and frauleins?

--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:436E8FAE.E3D5269E@cox.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Thanks for filling me in. I still haven't figured out what you're
> doing, must be a class in something. I would consider it a prison
> sentence, like when I was in the ARMY, stationed in Germany.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> Haven't seen anything like that. I have seen quite a few of these
>> though.
>>
>> http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-10-017.html
>>
>> I saw a Ford Excursion last month. There are even motor homes. I think
>> that the most annoying thing, are the motor scooters, that sound like a
>> chain saw in the middle of the night. I could do without that. There
>> may
>> be more Jeep Grand Cherokees over here, than in the States. Not all of
>> them
>> are diesel, either. With gasoline over $1.50 a liter, how does that
>> work?
>>
>> I haven't driven much since I came here. I did drive from Madrid to the
>> Basque Country, when I first came. I think now, that one of the reasons
>> I
>> came here, besides the Spanish courses, are the trains. You can take a
>> train, almost anywhere. My son in law, who learned to drive in France,
>> says
>> that he is afraid to drive in the cities here. I have tried it, and I
>> agree. I think that once I get done with school, I am going to rent a
>> car,
>> and drive to Galicia or maybe Portugal. The worst part is the exchange
>> rate. When my daughter was here, a Euro was worth about $0.80. Now it's
>> at
>> $1.25. On the bright side, this means that you don't see many American
>> tourists.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:436E6A25.FED3FFC7@cox.net...
>> > WAY back in '66. Looks like they're still doing it, though:
>> > http://www.mentovai.com/photo/200203...03-14-012.html No
>> > wonder it's burning.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> > >
>> > > When was that? They have real headlights now, 12 volt electric and
>> > > everything. :-)
>> > >
>> > > Earle




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-06-2005 07:30 PM

Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee headlights
 
Hi Bill,
If you remember the seventies, you weren't really there. -Robin
Williams
I drank the Holland beer Heineken while I was, more closely
resemble Hams the beer refreshing.
The fraus didn't take showers nor shaved, I couldn't wait to get
back to my California Surfer Chicks.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> You did not enjoy the beer, brats, and frauleins?
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.



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