Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
09-28-2004, 06:17 PM
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
Brian did pass the time by typing:
> Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
TB spacer = junk
The power gain you feel is actually due to a change in the
throttle cable geometry.
You would get some benefit from a slightly larger (bored out) TB.
More if it's backed up with a tuned exhaust header and cat-back.
As for a heat shield (presume: air box) like the K$N system you can go
get sheet stock and bend one. Then slide some door seal trim around
the outside. That's what the K$N FIPK is anyway.
hint: build yourself one out of cardboard to get it fitting perfectly
then transfer that to metal. If you don't have the equipment there
you can usually find a local metal shop that will help you learn and
are happy to help a hobbyist.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
TB spacer = junk
The power gain you feel is actually due to a change in the
throttle cable geometry.
You would get some benefit from a slightly larger (bored out) TB.
More if it's backed up with a tuned exhaust header and cat-back.
As for a heat shield (presume: air box) like the K$N system you can go
get sheet stock and bend one. Then slide some door seal trim around
the outside. That's what the K$N FIPK is anyway.
hint: build yourself one out of cardboard to get it fitting perfectly
then transfer that to metal. If you don't have the equipment there
you can usually find a local metal shop that will help you learn and
are happy to help a hobbyist.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
09-28-2004, 06:17 PM
#12
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
Brian did pass the time by typing:
> Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
TB spacer = junk
The power gain you feel is actually due to a change in the
throttle cable geometry.
You would get some benefit from a slightly larger (bored out) TB.
More if it's backed up with a tuned exhaust header and cat-back.
As for a heat shield (presume: air box) like the K$N system you can go
get sheet stock and bend one. Then slide some door seal trim around
the outside. That's what the K$N FIPK is anyway.
hint: build yourself one out of cardboard to get it fitting perfectly
then transfer that to metal. If you don't have the equipment there
you can usually find a local metal shop that will help you learn and
are happy to help a hobbyist.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
TB spacer = junk
The power gain you feel is actually due to a change in the
throttle cable geometry.
You would get some benefit from a slightly larger (bored out) TB.
More if it's backed up with a tuned exhaust header and cat-back.
As for a heat shield (presume: air box) like the K$N system you can go
get sheet stock and bend one. Then slide some door seal trim around
the outside. That's what the K$N FIPK is anyway.
hint: build yourself one out of cardboard to get it fitting perfectly
then transfer that to metal. If you don't have the equipment there
you can usually find a local metal shop that will help you learn and
are happy to help a hobbyist.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
09-28-2004, 06:17 PM
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
Brian did pass the time by typing:
> Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
TB spacer = junk
The power gain you feel is actually due to a change in the
throttle cable geometry.
You would get some benefit from a slightly larger (bored out) TB.
More if it's backed up with a tuned exhaust header and cat-back.
As for a heat shield (presume: air box) like the K$N system you can go
get sheet stock and bend one. Then slide some door seal trim around
the outside. That's what the K$N FIPK is anyway.
hint: build yourself one out of cardboard to get it fitting perfectly
then transfer that to metal. If you don't have the equipment there
you can usually find a local metal shop that will help you learn and
are happy to help a hobbyist.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
TB spacer = junk
The power gain you feel is actually due to a change in the
throttle cable geometry.
You would get some benefit from a slightly larger (bored out) TB.
More if it's backed up with a tuned exhaust header and cat-back.
As for a heat shield (presume: air box) like the K$N system you can go
get sheet stock and bend one. Then slide some door seal trim around
the outside. That's what the K$N FIPK is anyway.
hint: build yourself one out of cardboard to get it fitting perfectly
then transfer that to metal. If you don't have the equipment there
you can usually find a local metal shop that will help you learn and
are happy to help a hobbyist.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
09-28-2004, 06:30 PM
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
This?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
Eric
"HarryS" <hcs1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:47SdnR06DoJ7RMTcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> Yeppers Jerry and Bill are correct, there are no short cuts to HP and
> performance gain. You have to spend real big $$ to do anything noticeable
> not one of the snake oil salesmen will stand by their product with a
> guarantee. It reminds me of the fuel magnets to realign the electrons in
> the fuel to provide better fuel economy.
>
> HarryS
>
> "Brian" <berichsen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1ca2260e.0409281249.30983721@posting.google.c om...
> > Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> > throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> > FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> > throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> > something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
>
>
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
Eric
"HarryS" <hcs1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:47SdnR06DoJ7RMTcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> Yeppers Jerry and Bill are correct, there are no short cuts to HP and
> performance gain. You have to spend real big $$ to do anything noticeable
> not one of the snake oil salesmen will stand by their product with a
> guarantee. It reminds me of the fuel magnets to realign the electrons in
> the fuel to provide better fuel economy.
>
> HarryS
>
> "Brian" <berichsen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1ca2260e.0409281249.30983721@posting.google.c om...
> > Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> > throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> > FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> > throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> > something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
>
>
09-28-2004, 06:30 PM
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
This?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
Eric
"HarryS" <hcs1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:47SdnR06DoJ7RMTcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> Yeppers Jerry and Bill are correct, there are no short cuts to HP and
> performance gain. You have to spend real big $$ to do anything noticeable
> not one of the snake oil salesmen will stand by their product with a
> guarantee. It reminds me of the fuel magnets to realign the electrons in
> the fuel to provide better fuel economy.
>
> HarryS
>
> "Brian" <berichsen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1ca2260e.0409281249.30983721@posting.google.c om...
> > Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> > throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> > FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> > throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> > something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
>
>
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
Eric
"HarryS" <hcs1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:47SdnR06DoJ7RMTcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> Yeppers Jerry and Bill are correct, there are no short cuts to HP and
> performance gain. You have to spend real big $$ to do anything noticeable
> not one of the snake oil salesmen will stand by their product with a
> guarantee. It reminds me of the fuel magnets to realign the electrons in
> the fuel to provide better fuel economy.
>
> HarryS
>
> "Brian" <berichsen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1ca2260e.0409281249.30983721@posting.google.c om...
> > Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> > throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> > FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> > throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> > something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
>
>
09-28-2004, 06:30 PM
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
This?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
Eric
"HarryS" <hcs1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:47SdnR06DoJ7RMTcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> Yeppers Jerry and Bill are correct, there are no short cuts to HP and
> performance gain. You have to spend real big $$ to do anything noticeable
> not one of the snake oil salesmen will stand by their product with a
> guarantee. It reminds me of the fuel magnets to realign the electrons in
> the fuel to provide better fuel economy.
>
> HarryS
>
> "Brian" <berichsen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1ca2260e.0409281249.30983721@posting.google.c om...
> > Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> > throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> > FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> > throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> > something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
>
>
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
Eric
"HarryS" <hcs1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:47SdnR06DoJ7RMTcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> Yeppers Jerry and Bill are correct, there are no short cuts to HP and
> performance gain. You have to spend real big $$ to do anything noticeable
> not one of the snake oil salesmen will stand by their product with a
> guarantee. It reminds me of the fuel magnets to realign the electrons in
> the fuel to provide better fuel economy.
>
> HarryS
>
> "Brian" <berichsen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1ca2260e.0409281249.30983721@posting.google.c om...
> > Is there an aftermarket air intake system that is compatible with a
> > throttle body spacer on the 4.0L engine? I would like to use a K&N
> > FIPK, but it will not work with a throttle body spacer. I have a
> > throttle body spacer and a homemade intake right now, but I would like
> > something that has a heat shield. Any help would be appreciated!
>
>
09-28-2004, 06:44 PM
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
Eric Shade did pass the time by typing:
> This?
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
:) Amazing, those have been around ever since magnets were "magic".
On the bright side you can use them to hold nuts while your working
on the engine.
--
DougW
> This?
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
:) Amazing, those have been around ever since magnets were "magic".
On the bright side you can use them to hold nuts while your working
on the engine.
--
DougW
09-28-2004, 06:44 PM
#18
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
Eric Shade did pass the time by typing:
> This?
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
:) Amazing, those have been around ever since magnets were "magic".
On the bright side you can use them to hold nuts while your working
on the engine.
--
DougW
> This?
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
:) Amazing, those have been around ever since magnets were "magic".
On the bright side you can use them to hold nuts while your working
on the engine.
--
DougW
09-28-2004, 06:44 PM
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
Eric Shade did pass the time by typing:
> This?
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
:) Amazing, those have been around ever since magnets were "magic".
On the bright side you can use them to hold nuts while your working
on the engine.
--
DougW
> This?
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
:) Amazing, those have been around ever since magnets were "magic".
On the bright side you can use them to hold nuts while your working
on the engine.
--
DougW
09-29-2004, 10:21 PM
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L Throttle Body Spacer/Intake Compatibility
DougW proclaimed:
> Eric Shade did pass the time by typing:
>
>>This?
>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
>
>
> :) Amazing, those have been around ever since magnets were "magic".
>
> On the bright side you can use them to hold nuts while your working
> on the engine.
...err, OK? Wouldn't that tend to sort of give you a wedgie? I
always just use a jock strap while working on a vehicle.
> Eric Shade did pass the time by typing:
>
>>This?
>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36098
>
>
> :) Amazing, those have been around ever since magnets were "magic".
>
> On the bright side you can use them to hold nuts while your working
> on the engine.
...err, OK? Wouldn't that tend to sort of give you a wedgie? I
always just use a jock strap while working on a vehicle.