Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
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Dave Milne wrote:
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
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>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> I've met plenty of people I'd trust with a gun, and plenty of people
> who
>>>> should never be allowed out by themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Just for an OT discussion, are the following statements true, scaled
>>>> up to
>>>> country level ?
>>>>
>>>> "an armed North Korea is a polite North Korea"
>>> No, you have to keep things in context. An armed society is a polite
>>> society because you never know who might be armed so it's best to assume
>>> everyone is. On a nation to nation level that doesn't work so well
>>> because it's hardly ever the leaders that get hurt if the shooting
> starts.
>>>> "Its not WMDs that kill people, its people that kill people".
>>> WMD's DON'T kill people, someone has to set off the WMD and it's that
>>> someone that is doing the killing.
>>>
>>> The US and the old Soviet Union had insane amounts of nuclear weapons
>>> pointed at each other and those weapons never hurt a soul because no one
>>> used them (thank God), indeed it could be argued that WMD SAVE people
>>> because all those weapons may have kept the cold war from becoming hot.
>>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt
>> Yup! That was M.A.D. Mutually Assured Destruction. You'd have to be nuts
>> to start a nuclear war. The problem today is people who are nuts getting
>> their hands on nukes. And I apologize in advance for getting so far O.T.
>> in a Jeep Group :-)
>>
>> --
>> FRH
>
> oh well, since I agree with you both in the main, no point in arguing
> further :-)
>
> I not totally convinced an armed society is a polite society, as it depends
> on how many nutters you have. Equally, nuclear societies like the US,
> Britain and Russia are polite societies (for the MAD point you made).
> However as you said "you'd have to be nuts..", and I'm sure Iran and N Korea
> are nuts.
>
> Dave. Milne, Scotland
>
> Dave
>
>
In an armed society the nutters either learn to control themselves or
they are quickly taken care of. One thing they DON'T do is show up on a
collage campus and start blasting away, because if they do they quickly
get dealt with.
Jeff DeWitt
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
> news:ZdcJi.17195$B25.16215@news01.roc.ny...
>> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> I've met plenty of people I'd trust with a gun, and plenty of people
> who
>>>> should never be allowed out by themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Just for an OT discussion, are the following statements true, scaled
>>>> up to
>>>> country level ?
>>>>
>>>> "an armed North Korea is a polite North Korea"
>>> No, you have to keep things in context. An armed society is a polite
>>> society because you never know who might be armed so it's best to assume
>>> everyone is. On a nation to nation level that doesn't work so well
>>> because it's hardly ever the leaders that get hurt if the shooting
> starts.
>>>> "Its not WMDs that kill people, its people that kill people".
>>> WMD's DON'T kill people, someone has to set off the WMD and it's that
>>> someone that is doing the killing.
>>>
>>> The US and the old Soviet Union had insane amounts of nuclear weapons
>>> pointed at each other and those weapons never hurt a soul because no one
>>> used them (thank God), indeed it could be argued that WMD SAVE people
>>> because all those weapons may have kept the cold war from becoming hot.
>>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt
>> Yup! That was M.A.D. Mutually Assured Destruction. You'd have to be nuts
>> to start a nuclear war. The problem today is people who are nuts getting
>> their hands on nukes. And I apologize in advance for getting so far O.T.
>> in a Jeep Group :-)
>>
>> --
>> FRH
>
> oh well, since I agree with you both in the main, no point in arguing
> further :-)
>
> I not totally convinced an armed society is a polite society, as it depends
> on how many nutters you have. Equally, nuclear societies like the US,
> Britain and Russia are polite societies (for the MAD point you made).
> However as you said "you'd have to be nuts..", and I'm sure Iran and N Korea
> are nuts.
>
> Dave. Milne, Scotland
>
> Dave
>
>
In an armed society the nutters either learn to control themselves or
they are quickly taken care of. One thing they DON'T do is show up on a
collage campus and start blasting away, because if they do they quickly
get dealt with.
Jeff DeWitt
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>
>>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>>>"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily .net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>>>>>>(for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>>>>>>happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
>>>>>be young.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Making an accurate observation is neither.
>>>>It is merely a statement of the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>>My point was that it was unnecessarily narrow. When you see guys of
>>>other colors, and old guys, with their hats on backwards you can still
>>>bet on something stupid happening (it's arguable whether something
>>>stupid has *already* happened when he put his hat on).
>>
>>You're reading *way* too much into it, Joe.
>
>
> I tried to extend the joke a notch and found myself labelled PC....
Reading back over your posts, I get it now. Very good.
Bill Putney
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> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>
>>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>>>"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily .net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>>>>>>(for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>>>>>>happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
>>>>>be young.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Making an accurate observation is neither.
>>>>It is merely a statement of the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>>My point was that it was unnecessarily narrow. When you see guys of
>>>other colors, and old guys, with their hats on backwards you can still
>>>bet on something stupid happening (it's arguable whether something
>>>stupid has *already* happened when he put his hat on).
>>
>>You're reading *way* too much into it, Joe.
>
>
> I tried to extend the joke a notch and found myself labelled PC....
Reading back over your posts, I get it now. Very good.
Bill Putney
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>
>>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>>>"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily .net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>>>>>>(for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>>>>>>happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
>>>>>be young.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Making an accurate observation is neither.
>>>>It is merely a statement of the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>>My point was that it was unnecessarily narrow. When you see guys of
>>>other colors, and old guys, with their hats on backwards you can still
>>>bet on something stupid happening (it's arguable whether something
>>>stupid has *already* happened when he put his hat on).
>>
>>You're reading *way* too much into it, Joe.
>
>
> I tried to extend the joke a notch and found myself labelled PC....
Reading back over your posts, I get it now. Very good.
Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>
>>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>>>"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily .net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>>>>>>(for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>>>>>>happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
>>>>>be young.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Making an accurate observation is neither.
>>>>It is merely a statement of the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>>My point was that it was unnecessarily narrow. When you see guys of
>>>other colors, and old guys, with their hats on backwards you can still
>>>bet on something stupid happening (it's arguable whether something
>>>stupid has *already* happened when he put his hat on).
>>
>>You're reading *way* too much into it, Joe.
>
>
> I tried to extend the joke a notch and found myself labelled PC....
Reading back over your posts, I get it now. Very good.
Bill Putney
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>
>>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>>>"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily .net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>>>>>>(for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>>>>>>happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
>>>>>be young.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Making an accurate observation is neither.
>>>>It is merely a statement of the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>>My point was that it was unnecessarily narrow. When you see guys of
>>>other colors, and old guys, with their hats on backwards you can still
>>>bet on something stupid happening (it's arguable whether something
>>>stupid has *already* happened when he put his hat on).
>>
>>You're reading *way* too much into it, Joe.
>
>
> I tried to extend the joke a notch and found myself labelled PC....
Reading back over your posts, I get it now. Very good.
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>
>>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>>>"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily .net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>>>>>>(for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>>>>>>happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
>>>>>be young.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Making an accurate observation is neither.
>>>>It is merely a statement of the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>>My point was that it was unnecessarily narrow. When you see guys of
>>>other colors, and old guys, with their hats on backwards you can still
>>>bet on something stupid happening (it's arguable whether something
>>>stupid has *already* happened when he put his hat on).
>>
>>You're reading *way* too much into it, Joe.
>
>
> I tried to extend the joke a notch and found myself labelled PC....
Reading back over your posts, I get it now. Very good.
Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>
>>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>>>"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily .net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>>>>>>(for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>>>>>>happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
>>>>>be young.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Making an accurate observation is neither.
>>>>It is merely a statement of the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>>My point was that it was unnecessarily narrow. When you see guys of
>>>other colors, and old guys, with their hats on backwards you can still
>>>bet on something stupid happening (it's arguable whether something
>>>stupid has *already* happened when he put his hat on).
>>
>>You're reading *way* too much into it, Joe.
>
>
> I tried to extend the joke a notch and found myself labelled PC....
Reading back over your posts, I get it now. Very good.
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>
>>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>>>"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily .net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>>>>>>(for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>>>>>>happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
>>>>>be young.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Making an accurate observation is neither.
>>>>It is merely a statement of the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>>My point was that it was unnecessarily narrow. When you see guys of
>>>other colors, and old guys, with their hats on backwards you can still
>>>bet on something stupid happening (it's arguable whether something
>>>stupid has *already* happened when he put his hat on).
>>
>>You're reading *way* too much into it, Joe.
>
>
> I tried to extend the joke a notch and found myself labelled PC....
Reading back over your posts, I get it now. Very good.
Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')
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Ok ok... thank you.
Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does or
says something silly..
Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes without a
cap, he's burnt.
Kate
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
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Kate wrote:
>
> Ya'll are out of your f-ing minds if you think some is going to do
> something
> stupid simply because they turn their hat around.
Then let us rephrase: Something stupid is about to happen when someone
wears their cap (not hat) backwards when they're NOT welding or trying
to keep their neck from sunburning (although a hat, not a cap, would be
a better solution in that case, but I'll adit that sometimes all I have
is a cap when I need sun protection). I wouldn't even turn mine around
to keep it from blowing off in my convertible- I wouldn't want to be
mistaken for a damnfool urban punk.
Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does or
says something silly..
Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes without a
cap, he's burnt.
Kate
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
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Kate wrote:
>
> Ya'll are out of your f-ing minds if you think some is going to do
> something
> stupid simply because they turn their hat around.
Then let us rephrase: Something stupid is about to happen when someone
wears their cap (not hat) backwards when they're NOT welding or trying
to keep their neck from sunburning (although a hat, not a cap, would be
a better solution in that case, but I'll adit that sometimes all I have
is a cap when I need sun protection). I wouldn't even turn mine around
to keep it from blowing off in my convertible- I wouldn't want to be
mistaken for a damnfool urban punk.
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Ok ok... thank you.
Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does or
says something silly..
Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes without a
cap, he's burnt.
Kate
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:8--dnVKNlL3NP2jbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@texas.net...
Kate wrote:
>
> Ya'll are out of your f-ing minds if you think some is going to do
> something
> stupid simply because they turn their hat around.
Then let us rephrase: Something stupid is about to happen when someone
wears their cap (not hat) backwards when they're NOT welding or trying
to keep their neck from sunburning (although a hat, not a cap, would be
a better solution in that case, but I'll adit that sometimes all I have
is a cap when I need sun protection). I wouldn't even turn mine around
to keep it from blowing off in my convertible- I wouldn't want to be
mistaken for a damnfool urban punk.
Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does or
says something silly..
Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes without a
cap, he's burnt.
Kate
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:8--dnVKNlL3NP2jbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@texas.net...
Kate wrote:
>
> Ya'll are out of your f-ing minds if you think some is going to do
> something
> stupid simply because they turn their hat around.
Then let us rephrase: Something stupid is about to happen when someone
wears their cap (not hat) backwards when they're NOT welding or trying
to keep their neck from sunburning (although a hat, not a cap, would be
a better solution in that case, but I'll adit that sometimes all I have
is a cap when I need sun protection). I wouldn't even turn mine around
to keep it from blowing off in my convertible- I wouldn't want to be
mistaken for a damnfool urban punk.
Guest
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Ok ok... thank you.
Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does or
says something silly..
Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes without a
cap, he's burnt.
Kate
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:8--dnVKNlL3NP2jbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@texas.net...
Kate wrote:
>
> Ya'll are out of your f-ing minds if you think some is going to do
> something
> stupid simply because they turn their hat around.
Then let us rephrase: Something stupid is about to happen when someone
wears their cap (not hat) backwards when they're NOT welding or trying
to keep their neck from sunburning (although a hat, not a cap, would be
a better solution in that case, but I'll adit that sometimes all I have
is a cap when I need sun protection). I wouldn't even turn mine around
to keep it from blowing off in my convertible- I wouldn't want to be
mistaken for a damnfool urban punk.
Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does or
says something silly..
Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes without a
cap, he's burnt.
Kate
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:8--dnVKNlL3NP2jbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@texas.net...
Kate wrote:
>
> Ya'll are out of your f-ing minds if you think some is going to do
> something
> stupid simply because they turn their hat around.
Then let us rephrase: Something stupid is about to happen when someone
wears their cap (not hat) backwards when they're NOT welding or trying
to keep their neck from sunburning (although a hat, not a cap, would be
a better solution in that case, but I'll adit that sometimes all I have
is a cap when I need sun protection). I wouldn't even turn mine around
to keep it from blowing off in my convertible- I wouldn't want to be
mistaken for a damnfool urban punk.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Ok ok... thank you.
Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does or
says something silly..
Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes without a
cap, he's burnt.
Kate
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:8--dnVKNlL3NP2jbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@texas.net...
Kate wrote:
>
> Ya'll are out of your f-ing minds if you think some is going to do
> something
> stupid simply because they turn their hat around.
Then let us rephrase: Something stupid is about to happen when someone
wears their cap (not hat) backwards when they're NOT welding or trying
to keep their neck from sunburning (although a hat, not a cap, would be
a better solution in that case, but I'll adit that sometimes all I have
is a cap when I need sun protection). I wouldn't even turn mine around
to keep it from blowing off in my convertible- I wouldn't want to be
mistaken for a damnfool urban punk.
Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does or
says something silly..
Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes without a
cap, he's burnt.
Kate
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:8--dnVKNlL3NP2jbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@texas.net...
Kate wrote:
>
> Ya'll are out of your f-ing minds if you think some is going to do
> something
> stupid simply because they turn their hat around.
Then let us rephrase: Something stupid is about to happen when someone
wears their cap (not hat) backwards when they're NOT welding or trying
to keep their neck from sunburning (although a hat, not a cap, would be
a better solution in that case, but I'll adit that sometimes all I have
is a cap when I need sun protection). I wouldn't even turn mine around
to keep it from blowing off in my convertible- I wouldn't want to be
mistaken for a damnfool urban punk.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Kate wrote:
> Ok ok... thank you.
> Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does
> or says something silly..
> Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
>
> In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes
> without a cap, he's burnt.
be afraid, be very very afraid.
http://www.villagehatshop.com/im_the_leader.html
--
DougW
> Ok ok... thank you.
> Whenever Hubs turns his around in the Jeep, he always laughs and does
> or says something silly..
> Letting me know that he feels a little goofy.
>
> In the case of my hubby... he is a bald headed guy. If he goes
> without a cap, he's burnt.
be afraid, be very very afraid.
http://www.villagehatshop.com/im_the_leader.html
--
DougW


