Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
11-24-2006, 10:25 AM
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Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
one that I question.
This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
Thanks,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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one that I question.
This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
Thanks,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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11-24-2006, 11:03 AM
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Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
MY recollection is that the 4-banger is the old GM Iron Duke, which is the
inline 6 with two chopped off. Having said that, the math does not work out
quite right. divide 232 by 6 then multiply the result by 4. The answer is
closer to 155 than 151.
It makes sense that DC would put the same 4 into a Dakota that it put into
the Jeep, but I have no knowledge that they actually did that.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45670F03.2DFC94C3@sympatico.ca...
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
inline 6 with two chopped off. Having said that, the math does not work out
quite right. divide 232 by 6 then multiply the result by 4. The answer is
closer to 155 than 151.
It makes sense that DC would put the same 4 into a Dakota that it put into
the Jeep, but I have no knowledge that they actually did that.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45670F03.2DFC94C3@sympatico.ca...
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
11-24-2006, 11:03 AM
#3
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Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
MY recollection is that the 4-banger is the old GM Iron Duke, which is the
inline 6 with two chopped off. Having said that, the math does not work out
quite right. divide 232 by 6 then multiply the result by 4. The answer is
closer to 155 than 151.
It makes sense that DC would put the same 4 into a Dakota that it put into
the Jeep, but I have no knowledge that they actually did that.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45670F03.2DFC94C3@sympatico.ca...
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
inline 6 with two chopped off. Having said that, the math does not work out
quite right. divide 232 by 6 then multiply the result by 4. The answer is
closer to 155 than 151.
It makes sense that DC would put the same 4 into a Dakota that it put into
the Jeep, but I have no knowledge that they actually did that.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45670F03.2DFC94C3@sympatico.ca...
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
11-24-2006, 11:03 AM
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Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
MY recollection is that the 4-banger is the old GM Iron Duke, which is the
inline 6 with two chopped off. Having said that, the math does not work out
quite right. divide 232 by 6 then multiply the result by 4. The answer is
closer to 155 than 151.
It makes sense that DC would put the same 4 into a Dakota that it put into
the Jeep, but I have no knowledge that they actually did that.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45670F03.2DFC94C3@sympatico.ca...
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
inline 6 with two chopped off. Having said that, the math does not work out
quite right. divide 232 by 6 then multiply the result by 4. The answer is
closer to 155 than 151.
It makes sense that DC would put the same 4 into a Dakota that it put into
the Jeep, but I have no knowledge that they actually did that.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45670F03.2DFC94C3@sympatico.ca...
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
11-24-2006, 11:17 AM
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Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
The Dakota bellhousing is used to mate an AX15 to the 4 cylinder engine
according to this link:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...15+bellhousing
according to this link:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...15+bellhousing
11-24-2006, 11:17 AM
#6
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Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
The Dakota bellhousing is used to mate an AX15 to the 4 cylinder engine
according to this link:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...15+bellhousing
according to this link:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...15+bellhousing
11-24-2006, 11:17 AM
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Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
The Dakota bellhousing is used to mate an AX15 to the 4 cylinder engine
according to this link:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...15+bellhousing
according to this link:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...15+bellhousing
11-24-2006, 05:31 PM
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Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
Seems like we went through this a while back.
As I recall AMC decided they needed a 4cyl engine of their own, so they
took the 232/258 six, lopped off two cylinders, redesigned the head so
it would flow better and that was the four. They then modified the old
six and used a six cylinder version of the new head to create the 4.0
that we know so well. Last time we had this discussion I looked it up
and for what it's worth the AMC 4 cyl and the 4.0 6 use the same valves.
What DC put in a Dodge I have NO idea.
What do the parts books say about the part numbers for those clutch
pieces for a 4 cyl Dodge and a 4 cyl Jeep?
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
As I recall AMC decided they needed a 4cyl engine of their own, so they
took the 232/258 six, lopped off two cylinders, redesigned the head so
it would flow better and that was the four. They then modified the old
six and used a six cylinder version of the new head to create the 4.0
that we know so well. Last time we had this discussion I looked it up
and for what it's worth the AMC 4 cyl and the 4.0 6 use the same valves.
What DC put in a Dodge I have NO idea.
What do the parts books say about the part numbers for those clutch
pieces for a 4 cyl Dodge and a 4 cyl Jeep?
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
11-24-2006, 05:31 PM
#9
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Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
Seems like we went through this a while back.
As I recall AMC decided they needed a 4cyl engine of their own, so they
took the 232/258 six, lopped off two cylinders, redesigned the head so
it would flow better and that was the four. They then modified the old
six and used a six cylinder version of the new head to create the 4.0
that we know so well. Last time we had this discussion I looked it up
and for what it's worth the AMC 4 cyl and the 4.0 6 use the same valves.
What DC put in a Dodge I have NO idea.
What do the parts books say about the part numbers for those clutch
pieces for a 4 cyl Dodge and a 4 cyl Jeep?
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
As I recall AMC decided they needed a 4cyl engine of their own, so they
took the 232/258 six, lopped off two cylinders, redesigned the head so
it would flow better and that was the four. They then modified the old
six and used a six cylinder version of the new head to create the 4.0
that we know so well. Last time we had this discussion I looked it up
and for what it's worth the AMC 4 cyl and the 4.0 6 use the same valves.
What DC put in a Dodge I have NO idea.
What do the parts books say about the part numbers for those clutch
pieces for a 4 cyl Dodge and a 4 cyl Jeep?
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
11-24-2006, 05:31 PM
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Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
Seems like we went through this a while back.
As I recall AMC decided they needed a 4cyl engine of their own, so they
took the 232/258 six, lopped off two cylinders, redesigned the head so
it would flow better and that was the four. They then modified the old
six and used a six cylinder version of the new head to create the 4.0
that we know so well. Last time we had this discussion I looked it up
and for what it's worth the AMC 4 cyl and the 4.0 6 use the same valves.
What DC put in a Dodge I have NO idea.
What do the parts books say about the part numbers for those clutch
pieces for a 4 cyl Dodge and a 4 cyl Jeep?
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
As I recall AMC decided they needed a 4cyl engine of their own, so they
took the 232/258 six, lopped off two cylinders, redesigned the head so
it would flow better and that was the four. They then modified the old
six and used a six cylinder version of the new head to create the 4.0
that we know so well. Last time we had this discussion I looked it up
and for what it's worth the AMC 4 cyl and the 4.0 6 use the same valves.
What DC put in a Dodge I have NO idea.
What do the parts books say about the part numbers for those clutch
pieces for a 4 cyl Dodge and a 4 cyl Jeep?
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
> one that I question.
>
> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
