Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
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Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
If my memory serves, that part only fits one way. Not only does it have a
"u" shape from the edge, it is also curved when viewed from the top. The
notches in the ends have to fit onto the brake shoes, and they only fit one
way.
"tbird" <tbird@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:-_idnbcFg8s5IOjcRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in the
> drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just under
> the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> position....like:
>
> u: ________ ________________
> \_________/
>
> ___________
> inverted u: ___________/ \____________
>
> In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
>
> Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant to
be
> installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
when
> the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> wouldn't matter anyway.
>
> thanks in advance.
> tbird
>
>
"u" shape from the edge, it is also curved when viewed from the top. The
notches in the ends have to fit onto the brake shoes, and they only fit one
way.
"tbird" <tbird@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:-_idnbcFg8s5IOjcRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in the
> drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just under
> the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> position....like:
>
> u: ________ ________________
> \_________/
>
> ___________
> inverted u: ___________/ \____________
>
> In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
>
> Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant to
be
> installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
when
> the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> wouldn't matter anyway.
>
> thanks in advance.
> tbird
>
>
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Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
If my memory serves, that part only fits one way. Not only does it have a
"u" shape from the edge, it is also curved when viewed from the top. The
notches in the ends have to fit onto the brake shoes, and they only fit one
way.
"tbird" <tbird@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:-_idnbcFg8s5IOjcRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in the
> drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just under
> the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> position....like:
>
> u: ________ ________________
> \_________/
>
> ___________
> inverted u: ___________/ \____________
>
> In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
>
> Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant to
be
> installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
when
> the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> wouldn't matter anyway.
>
> thanks in advance.
> tbird
>
>
"u" shape from the edge, it is also curved when viewed from the top. The
notches in the ends have to fit onto the brake shoes, and they only fit one
way.
"tbird" <tbird@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:-_idnbcFg8s5IOjcRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in the
> drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just under
> the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> position....like:
>
> u: ________ ________________
> \_________/
>
> ___________
> inverted u: ___________/ \____________
>
> In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
>
> Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant to
be
> installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
when
> the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> wouldn't matter anyway.
>
> thanks in advance.
> tbird
>
>
Guest
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Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
If my memory serves, that part only fits one way. Not only does it have a
"u" shape from the edge, it is also curved when viewed from the top. The
notches in the ends have to fit onto the brake shoes, and they only fit one
way.
"tbird" <tbird@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:-_idnbcFg8s5IOjcRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in the
> drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just under
> the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> position....like:
>
> u: ________ ________________
> \_________/
>
> ___________
> inverted u: ___________/ \____________
>
> In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
>
> Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant to
be
> installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
when
> the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> wouldn't matter anyway.
>
> thanks in advance.
> tbird
>
>
"u" shape from the edge, it is also curved when viewed from the top. The
notches in the ends have to fit onto the brake shoes, and they only fit one
way.
"tbird" <tbird@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:-_idnbcFg8s5IOjcRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in the
> drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just under
> the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> position....like:
>
> u: ________ ________________
> \_________/
>
> ___________
> inverted u: ___________/ \____________
>
> In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
>
> Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant to
be
> installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
when
> the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> wouldn't matter anyway.
>
> thanks in advance.
> tbird
>
>
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Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
When the shoes grab in reverse, they shift, they shift when stopped
forward too, that's why the cylinder is a dual instead of two sides so
it is smooth. One side is always shifted or compressed which tilts the
bar. This is how the adjusters work too, the shifting of the shoes.
Mike
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4176709D.262CB878@sympatico.ca...
> > U shape for clearance.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > tbird wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in
> the
> > > drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just
> under
> > > the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> > > position....like:
> > >
> > > u: ________ ________________
> > > \_________/
> > >
> > > ___________
> > > inverted u: ___________/ \____________
> > >
> > > In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> > > installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> > > And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant
> to be
> > > installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
> when
> > > the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> > > wouldn't matter anyway.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance.
> > > tbird
forward too, that's why the cylinder is a dual instead of two sides so
it is smooth. One side is always shifted or compressed which tilts the
bar. This is how the adjusters work too, the shifting of the shoes.
Mike
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4176709D.262CB878@sympatico.ca...
> > U shape for clearance.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > tbird wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in
> the
> > > drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just
> under
> > > the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> > > position....like:
> > >
> > > u: ________ ________________
> > > \_________/
> > >
> > > ___________
> > > inverted u: ___________/ \____________
> > >
> > > In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> > > installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> > > And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant
> to be
> > > installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
> when
> > > the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> > > wouldn't matter anyway.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance.
> > > tbird
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Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
When the shoes grab in reverse, they shift, they shift when stopped
forward too, that's why the cylinder is a dual instead of two sides so
it is smooth. One side is always shifted or compressed which tilts the
bar. This is how the adjusters work too, the shifting of the shoes.
Mike
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4176709D.262CB878@sympatico.ca...
> > U shape for clearance.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > tbird wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in
> the
> > > drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just
> under
> > > the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> > > position....like:
> > >
> > > u: ________ ________________
> > > \_________/
> > >
> > > ___________
> > > inverted u: ___________/ \____________
> > >
> > > In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> > > installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> > > And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant
> to be
> > > installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
> when
> > > the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> > > wouldn't matter anyway.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance.
> > > tbird
forward too, that's why the cylinder is a dual instead of two sides so
it is smooth. One side is always shifted or compressed which tilts the
bar. This is how the adjusters work too, the shifting of the shoes.
Mike
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4176709D.262CB878@sympatico.ca...
> > U shape for clearance.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > tbird wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in
> the
> > > drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just
> under
> > > the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> > > position....like:
> > >
> > > u: ________ ________________
> > > \_________/
> > >
> > > ___________
> > > inverted u: ___________/ \____________
> > >
> > > In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> > > installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> > > And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant
> to be
> > > installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
> when
> > > the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> > > wouldn't matter anyway.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance.
> > > tbird
Guest
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Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
When the shoes grab in reverse, they shift, they shift when stopped
forward too, that's why the cylinder is a dual instead of two sides so
it is smooth. One side is always shifted or compressed which tilts the
bar. This is how the adjusters work too, the shifting of the shoes.
Mike
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4176709D.262CB878@sympatico.ca...
> > U shape for clearance.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > tbird wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in
> the
> > > drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just
> under
> > > the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> > > position....like:
> > >
> > > u: ________ ________________
> > > \_________/
> > >
> > > ___________
> > > inverted u: ___________/ \____________
> > >
> > > In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> > > installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> > > And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant
> to be
> > > installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
> when
> > > the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> > > wouldn't matter anyway.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance.
> > > tbird
forward too, that's why the cylinder is a dual instead of two sides so
it is smooth. One side is always shifted or compressed which tilts the
bar. This is how the adjusters work too, the shifting of the shoes.
Mike
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4176709D.262CB878@sympatico.ca...
> > U shape for clearance.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > tbird wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in
> the
> > > drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just
> under
> > > the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> > > position....like:
> > >
> > > u: ________ ________________
> > > \_________/
> > >
> > > ___________
> > > inverted u: ___________/ \____________
> > >
> > > In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> > > installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> > > And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant
> to be
> > > installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
> when
> > > the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> > > wouldn't matter anyway.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance.
> > > tbird
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Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
Not when you release the emergency brake cable, and collapse the
slave, pressing the shoes up against the their anchors. You'll see it
only fits one way: http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
slave, pressing the shoes up against the their anchors. You'll see it
only fits one way: http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
Guest
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Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
Not when you release the emergency brake cable, and collapse the
slave, pressing the shoes up against the their anchors. You'll see it
only fits one way: http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
slave, pressing the shoes up against the their anchors. You'll see it
only fits one way: http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
Not when you release the emergency brake cable, and collapse the
slave, pressing the shoes up against the their anchors. You'll see it
only fits one way: http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
slave, pressing the shoes up against the their anchors. You'll see it
only fits one way: http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
tbird wrote:
>
> yes..certainly that makes sense. Only thing is that the u part is shorter
> than the cylinder so that the 2 wings on either end are going to touch the
> cylinder anyway. Maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference?
Guest
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Re: Jeep drum brakes....which way is up?
I really appreciate the help. It's interesting.
In fact, mine are installed with the u in the upwards position..for some
time now with no ill effects and they still work. Not sure how they got in
that upward position because I've always followed what I have seen...The
first time the brakes were done it was a GM mechanic..he might have put them
upside down. Don't knw. But, in fact, they do fit with the u up and the
parking brake still works.
Bill's diagram is what I have seen..and it makes me think the u goes
down...but have a look at the pix at the bottom to the right - you will
clearly see the u in the up position. I contacted the author of this
website and he was pretty sure that that's the way it always was.
http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoRearDrums1.htm
thanks to all
tbird
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If my memory serves, that part only fits one way. Not only does it have a
> "u" shape from the edge, it is also curved when viewed from the top. The
> notches in the ends have to fit onto the brake shoes, and they only fit
one
> way.
>
>
>
>
> "tbird" <tbird@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:-_idnbcFg8s5IOjcRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> > I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in
the
> > drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just
under
> > the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> > position....like:
> >
> > u: ________ ________________
> > \_________/
> >
> > ___________
> > inverted u: ___________/ \____________
> >
> > In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> > installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> > And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
> >
> > Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant
to
> be
> > installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
> when
> > the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> > wouldn't matter anyway.
> >
> > thanks in advance.
> > tbird
> >
> >
>
>
In fact, mine are installed with the u in the upwards position..for some
time now with no ill effects and they still work. Not sure how they got in
that upward position because I've always followed what I have seen...The
first time the brakes were done it was a GM mechanic..he might have put them
upside down. Don't knw. But, in fact, they do fit with the u up and the
parking brake still works.
Bill's diagram is what I have seen..and it makes me think the u goes
down...but have a look at the pix at the bottom to the right - you will
clearly see the u in the up position. I contacted the author of this
website and he was pretty sure that that's the way it always was.
http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoRearDrums1.htm
thanks to all
tbird
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10ndnd71lkdld2f@corp.supernews.com...
> If my memory serves, that part only fits one way. Not only does it have a
> "u" shape from the edge, it is also curved when viewed from the top. The
> notches in the ends have to fit onto the brake shoes, and they only fit
one
> way.
>
>
>
>
> "tbird" <tbird@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:-_idnbcFg8s5IOjcRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> > I have a question about the parking brake link...this is the piece in
the
> > drum brake where one side has a little spring...it's installed just
under
> > the cylinder... you can install it in a "u" or inverted "u"
> > position....like:
> >
> > u: ________ ________________
> > \_________/
> >
> > ___________
> > inverted u: ___________/ \____________
> >
> > In the service manual it appears from the rough diagram that the part is
> > installed as a "u", but on my own Jeep it has always been an inverted u.
> > And that is what I have seen in pix on various website.
> >
> > Anyone know what the correct position is? I suppose the part is meant
to
> be
> > installed in the "u" position to prevent it from touching the cylinder
> when
> > the parking brake is on, but the part is shorter than the cylinder so it
> > wouldn't matter anyway.
> >
> > thanks in advance.
> > tbird
> >
> >
>
>