Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
07-08-2006, 08:29 PM
#11
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Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> c wrote:
>
>>It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
>>check the battery cables and connections first.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
>>>cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
>>>first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
>>>block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>
>>>
>>>quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The car:
>>>>a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>
>>>>Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>the charger anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>
>>>>Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>
>
>
the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> c wrote:
>
>>It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
>>check the battery cables and connections first.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
>>>cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
>>>first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
>>>block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>
>>>
>>>quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The car:
>>>>a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>
>>>>Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>the charger anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>
>>>>Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>
>
>
07-08-2006, 08:29 PM
#12
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Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> c wrote:
>
>>It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
>>check the battery cables and connections first.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
>>>cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
>>>first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
>>>block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>
>>>
>>>quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The car:
>>>>a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>
>>>>Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>the charger anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>
>>>>Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>
>
>
the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> c wrote:
>
>>It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
>>check the battery cables and connections first.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
>>>cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
>>>first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
>>>block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>
>>>
>>>quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The car:
>>>>a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>
>>>>Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>the charger anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>
>>>>Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>
>
>
07-08-2006, 08:29 PM
#13
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Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> c wrote:
>
>>It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
>>check the battery cables and connections first.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
>>>cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
>>>first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
>>>block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>
>>>
>>>quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The car:
>>>>a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>
>>>>Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>the charger anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>
>>>>Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>
>
>
the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> c wrote:
>
>>It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
>>check the battery cables and connections first.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
>>>cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
>>>first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
>>>block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>
>>>
>>>quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The car:
>>>>a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>
>>>>Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>the charger anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>
>>>>Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>
>
>
07-08-2006, 08:52 PM
#14
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Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
A very rare internal battery cable disconnect. Usually you can feel
a little looseness in the battery cable where it was pinched for the
starter solenoid.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
a little looseness in the battery cable where it was pinched for the
starter solenoid.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
07-08-2006, 08:52 PM
#15
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
A very rare internal battery cable disconnect. Usually you can feel
a little looseness in the battery cable where it was pinched for the
starter solenoid.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
a little looseness in the battery cable where it was pinched for the
starter solenoid.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
07-08-2006, 08:52 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
A very rare internal battery cable disconnect. Usually you can feel
a little looseness in the battery cable where it was pinched for the
starter solenoid.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
a little looseness in the battery cable where it was pinched for the
starter solenoid.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
07-08-2006, 08:57 PM
#17
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
Pick up a cheap and small RatShack digital voltmeter and check for
voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.
Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
block.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>> while.
>>
>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> c wrote:
>>
>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>> said,
>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel
>>>> the
>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>> cable. The
>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>> engine
>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The car:
>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>
>>
voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.
Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
block.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>> while.
>>
>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> c wrote:
>>
>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>> said,
>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel
>>>> the
>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>> cable. The
>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>> engine
>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The car:
>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>
>>
07-08-2006, 08:57 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
Pick up a cheap and small RatShack digital voltmeter and check for
voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.
Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
block.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>> while.
>>
>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> c wrote:
>>
>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>> said,
>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel
>>>> the
>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>> cable. The
>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>> engine
>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The car:
>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>
>>
voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.
Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
block.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>> while.
>>
>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> c wrote:
>>
>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>> said,
>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel
>>>> the
>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>> cable. The
>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>> engine
>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The car:
>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>
>>
07-08-2006, 08:57 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
Pick up a cheap and small RatShack digital voltmeter and check for
voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.
Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
block.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>> while.
>>
>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> c wrote:
>>
>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>> said,
>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel
>>>> the
>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>> cable. The
>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>> engine
>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The car:
>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>
>>
voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.
Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
block.
RoyJ proclaimed:
> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>> while.
>>
>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> c wrote:
>>
>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>> said,
>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel
>>>> the
>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>> cable. The
>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>> engine
>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The car:
>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>
>>
07-08-2006, 10:28 PM
#20
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
even be disintegrating.
----
On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>while.
>
>I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>Thanks,
>David
The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
even be disintegrating.
----
On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>while.
>
>I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>Thanks,
>David
