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quincy451@yahoo.com 07-08-2006 06:39 PM

Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
The car:
a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.

Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
entire car is dead. No power anywhere.

I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
the charger anyway.

I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
But try and start it and everything is dead again.

Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
it be??? Any ideas???

Thanks,
David


RoyJ 07-08-2006 07:00 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable.
The first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
engine block, it takes the most vibration.


quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
>


RoyJ 07-08-2006 07:00 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable.
The first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
engine block, it takes the most vibration.


quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
>


RoyJ 07-08-2006 07:00 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable.
The first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
engine block, it takes the most vibration.


quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
>


c 07-08-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
check the battery cables and connections first.

Chris

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
> block, it takes the most vibration.
>
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>> The car:
>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>
>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>
>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>> the charger anyway.
>>
>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>
>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>




c 07-08-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
check the battery cables and connections first.

Chris

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
> block, it takes the most vibration.
>
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>> The car:
>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>
>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>
>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>> the charger anyway.
>>
>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>
>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>




c 07-08-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
check the battery cables and connections first.

Chris

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
> block, it takes the most vibration.
>
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>> The car:
>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>
>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>
>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>> the charger anyway.
>>
>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>
>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>




quincy451@yahoo.com 07-08-2006 07:42 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
while.

I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
Thanks,
David


c wrote:
> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
> check the battery cables and connections first.
>
> Chris
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
> > main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
> > cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
> > into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
> > cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
> > first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
> > block, it takes the most vibration.
> >
> >
> > quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> The car:
> >> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
> >>
> >> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> >> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> >> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> >> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
> >>
> >> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> >> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> >> the charger anyway.
> >>
> >> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> >> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> >> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
> >>
> >> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> >> it be??? Any ideas???
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> David
> >>



quincy451@yahoo.com 07-08-2006 07:42 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
while.

I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
Thanks,
David


c wrote:
> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
> check the battery cables and connections first.
>
> Chris
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
> > main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
> > cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
> > into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
> > cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
> > first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
> > block, it takes the most vibration.
> >
> >
> > quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> The car:
> >> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
> >>
> >> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> >> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> >> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> >> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
> >>
> >> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> >> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> >> the charger anyway.
> >>
> >> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> >> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> >> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
> >>
> >> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> >> it be??? Any ideas???
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> David
> >>



quincy451@yahoo.com 07-08-2006 07:42 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
while.

I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
Thanks,
David


c wrote:
> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
> check the battery cables and connections first.
>
> Chris
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
> > main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
> > cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
> > into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
> > cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
> > first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
> > block, it takes the most vibration.
> >
> >
> > quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> The car:
> >> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
> >>
> >> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> >> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> >> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> >> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
> >>
> >> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> >> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> >> the charger anyway.
> >>
> >> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> >> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> >> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
> >>
> >> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> >> it be??? Any ideas???
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> David
> >>



RoyJ 07-08-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:

> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> c wrote:
>
>>It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
>>check the battery cables and connections first.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
>>>cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
>>>first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
>>>block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>
>>>
>>>quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The car:
>>>>a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>
>>>>Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>the charger anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>
>>>>Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>

>
>


RoyJ 07-08-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:

> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> c wrote:
>
>>It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
>>check the battery cables and connections first.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
>>>cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
>>>first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
>>>block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>
>>>
>>>quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The car:
>>>>a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>
>>>>Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>the charger anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>
>>>>Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>

>
>


RoyJ 07-08-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:

> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> c wrote:
>
>>It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
>>check the battery cables and connections first.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
>>>cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
>>>first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
>>>block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>
>>>
>>>quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The car:
>>>>a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>
>>>>Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>the charger anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>
>>>>Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>

>
>


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 07-08-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
A very rare internal battery cable disconnect. Usually you can feel
a little looseness in the battery cable where it was pinched for the
starter solenoid.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 07-08-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
A very rare internal battery cable disconnect. Usually you can feel
a little looseness in the battery cable where it was pinched for the
starter solenoid.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 07-08-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
A very rare internal battery cable disconnect. Usually you can feel
a little looseness in the battery cable where it was pinched for the
starter solenoid.
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quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David


Lon 07-08-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Pick up a cheap and small RatShack digital voltmeter and check for
voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.

Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
block.


RoyJ proclaimed:
> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>> while.
>>
>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> c wrote:
>>
>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>> said,
>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel
>>>> the
>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>> cable. The
>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>> engine
>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The car:
>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>

>>
>>


Lon 07-08-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Pick up a cheap and small RatShack digital voltmeter and check for
voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.

Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
block.


RoyJ proclaimed:
> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>> while.
>>
>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> c wrote:
>>
>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>> said,
>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel
>>>> the
>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>> cable. The
>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>> engine
>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The car:
>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>

>>
>>


Lon 07-08-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Pick up a cheap and small RatShack digital voltmeter and check for
voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.

Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
block.


RoyJ proclaimed:
> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>
> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>> while.
>>
>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> c wrote:
>>
>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>> said,
>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel
>>>> the
>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>> cable. The
>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>> engine
>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The car:
>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>

>>
>>


Dick 07-08-2006 10:28 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
even be disintegrating.

----

On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:

>Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>while.
>
>I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>Thanks,
>David



Dick 07-08-2006 10:28 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
even be disintegrating.

----

On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:

>Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>while.
>
>I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>Thanks,
>David



Dick 07-08-2006 10:28 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
even be disintegrating.

----

On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:

>Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>while.
>
>I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>Thanks,
>David



Jo Bo 07-09-2006 11:15 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
On a 96 Cherokee 6 I owned the ground went from the battery to a plate on
the engine block just in front of the distributor. As others have said it
sure sounds like a cable problem and most likely the ground.

JoBo

<quincy451@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152398372.286348.323260@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
>




Jo Bo 07-09-2006 11:15 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
On a 96 Cherokee 6 I owned the ground went from the battery to a plate on
the engine block just in front of the distributor. As others have said it
sure sounds like a cable problem and most likely the ground.

JoBo

<quincy451@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152398372.286348.323260@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
>




Jo Bo 07-09-2006 11:15 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
On a 96 Cherokee 6 I owned the ground went from the battery to a plate on
the engine block just in front of the distributor. As others have said it
sure sounds like a cable problem and most likely the ground.

JoBo

<quincy451@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152398372.286348.323260@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David
>




philthy 07-09-2006 06:21 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
don't just check them clean off the black and white crusty stuff on the
battery cables were they contact the battery posts and also clean the goo
off the battery case it's a voltagedraw by itself

---- wrote:

> Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
> The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
> even be disintegrating.
>
> ----
>
> On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> >so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> >battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> >charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> >charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> >capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> >not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> >that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> >while.
> >
> >I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> >Thanks,
> >David



philthy 07-09-2006 06:21 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
don't just check them clean off the black and white crusty stuff on the
battery cables were they contact the battery posts and also clean the goo
off the battery case it's a voltagedraw by itself

---- wrote:

> Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
> The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
> even be disintegrating.
>
> ----
>
> On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> >so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> >battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> >charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> >charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> >capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> >not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> >that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> >while.
> >
> >I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> >Thanks,
> >David



philthy 07-09-2006 06:21 PM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
don't just check them clean off the black and white crusty stuff on the
battery cables were they contact the battery posts and also clean the goo
off the battery case it's a voltagedraw by itself

---- wrote:

> Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
> The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
> even be disintegrating.
>
> ----
>
> On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> >so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> >battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> >charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> >charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> >capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> >not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> >that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> >while.
> >
> >I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> >Thanks,
> >David



batty505 07-10-2006 09:34 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
I agree

I think it's a bad ground, go with the circuit tester. Another option
is if you've recently installed stuff, aftermarket lighting, new cd
player whatever and didnt properly tie it to the fuseblock and external
fuse.

hth.
Mike

philthy wrote:
> don't just check them clean off the black and white crusty stuff on the
> battery cables were they contact the battery posts and also clean the goo
> off the battery case it's a voltagedraw by itself
>
> ---- wrote:
>
> > Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
> > The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
> > even be disintegrating.
> >
> > ----
> >
> > On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > >Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> > >so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> > >battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> > >charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> > >charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> > >capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> > >not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> > >that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> > >while.
> > >
> > >I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> > >Thanks,
> > >David



batty505 07-10-2006 09:34 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
I agree

I think it's a bad ground, go with the circuit tester. Another option
is if you've recently installed stuff, aftermarket lighting, new cd
player whatever and didnt properly tie it to the fuseblock and external
fuse.

hth.
Mike

philthy wrote:
> don't just check them clean off the black and white crusty stuff on the
> battery cables were they contact the battery posts and also clean the goo
> off the battery case it's a voltagedraw by itself
>
> ---- wrote:
>
> > Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
> > The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
> > even be disintegrating.
> >
> > ----
> >
> > On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > >Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> > >so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> > >battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> > >charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> > >charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> > >capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> > >not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> > >that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> > >while.
> > >
> > >I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> > >Thanks,
> > >David



batty505 07-10-2006 09:34 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
I agree

I think it's a bad ground, go with the circuit tester. Another option
is if you've recently installed stuff, aftermarket lighting, new cd
player whatever and didnt properly tie it to the fuseblock and external
fuse.

hth.
Mike

philthy wrote:
> don't just check them clean off the black and white crusty stuff on the
> battery cables were they contact the battery posts and also clean the goo
> off the battery case it's a voltagedraw by itself
>
> ---- wrote:
>
> > Check that ground cable from the battery all the way to the chassis.
> > The chassis end is usually the one to go first. The cable itself may
> > even be disintegrating.
> >
> > ----
> >
> > On 8 Jul 2006 16:42:25 -0700, quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > >Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> > >so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> > >battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> > >charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> > >charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> > >capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> > >not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> > >that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> > >while.
> > >
> > >I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> > >Thanks,
> > >David



batty505 07-10-2006 09:36 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Oh
I forgot, check the alternator, you can usually pull them and bring it
autozone for them to check for free.

hth
Mike

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David



batty505 07-10-2006 09:36 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Oh
I forgot, check the alternator, you can usually pull them and bring it
autozone for them to check for free.

hth
Mike

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David



batty505 07-10-2006 09:36 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Oh
I forgot, check the alternator, you can usually pull them and bring it
autozone for them to check for free.

hth
Mike

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> The car:
> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>
> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>
> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> the charger anyway.
>
> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>
> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> it be??? Any ideas???
>
> Thanks,
> David



Mike Romain 07-11-2006 09:58 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Lots of folks, even at garages forget that battery cables have 'two'
ends....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
> c wrote:
> > It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
> > check the battery cables and connections first.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
> > > main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
> > > cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
> > > into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
> > > cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
> > > first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
> > > block, it takes the most vibration.
> > >
> > >
> > > quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> The car:
> > >> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
> > >>
> > >> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> > >> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> > >> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> > >> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
> > >>
> > >> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> > >> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> > >> the charger anyway.
> > >>
> > >> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> > >> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> > >> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
> > >>
> > >> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> > >> it be??? Any ideas???
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> David
> > >>


Mike Romain 07-11-2006 09:58 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Lots of folks, even at garages forget that battery cables have 'two'
ends....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
> c wrote:
> > It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
> > check the battery cables and connections first.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
> > > main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
> > > cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
> > > into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
> > > cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
> > > first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
> > > block, it takes the most vibration.
> > >
> > >
> > > quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> The car:
> > >> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
> > >>
> > >> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> > >> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> > >> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> > >> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
> > >>
> > >> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> > >> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> > >> the charger anyway.
> > >>
> > >> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> > >> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> > >> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
> > >>
> > >> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> > >> it be??? Any ideas???
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> David
> > >>


Mike Romain 07-11-2006 09:58 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
Lots of folks, even at garages forget that battery cables have 'two'
ends....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
> while.
>
> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
> Thanks,
> David
>
> c wrote:
> > It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy said,
> > check the battery cables and connections first.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
> > > main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
> > > cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable goes
> > > into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going, feel the
> > > cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that cable. The
> > > first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the engine
> > > block, it takes the most vibration.
> > >
> > >
> > > quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> The car:
> > >> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
> > >>
> > >> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
> > >> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
> > >> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
> > >> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
> > >>
> > >> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
> > >> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
> > >> the charger anyway.
> > >>
> > >> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
> > >> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
> > >> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
> > >>
> > >> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
> > >> it be??? Any ideas???
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> David
> > >>


Lee Ayrton 07-15-2006 07:52 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
The Rat Shack credit card-sized DVOMs aren't cheap anymore, they changed
the design and the last one I bought was someplace north of $35. Cheap
($20) DVOMs can be found in the electrical department at big box stores
like Home Depot.


Lon wrote:
> Pick up a cheap and small RatShack digital voltmeter and check for
> voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
> least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.
>
> Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
> fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
> something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
> as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
> starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
> block.
>
>
> RoyJ proclaimed:
>
>> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
>> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>>
>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>>> while.
>>>
>>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>>> Thanks,
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> c wrote:
>>>
>>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>>> said,
>>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>>
>>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable
>>>>> goes
>>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going,
>>>>> feel the
>>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>>> cable. The
>>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>>> engine
>>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The car:
>>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>



--

This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
(tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
temperature in AFU Labs.

Lee Ayrton 07-15-2006 07:52 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
The Rat Shack credit card-sized DVOMs aren't cheap anymore, they changed
the design and the last one I bought was someplace north of $35. Cheap
($20) DVOMs can be found in the electrical department at big box stores
like Home Depot.


Lon wrote:
> Pick up a cheap and small RatShack digital voltmeter and check for
> voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
> least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.
>
> Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
> fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
> something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
> as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
> starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
> block.
>
>
> RoyJ proclaimed:
>
>> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
>> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>>
>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>>> while.
>>>
>>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>>> Thanks,
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> c wrote:
>>>
>>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>>> said,
>>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>>
>>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable
>>>>> goes
>>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going,
>>>>> feel the
>>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>>> cable. The
>>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>>> engine
>>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The car:
>>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>



--

This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
(tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
temperature in AFU Labs.

Lee Ayrton 07-15-2006 07:52 AM

Re: Jeep dead (electrical power loss) SOS....
 
The Rat Shack credit card-sized DVOMs aren't cheap anymore, they changed
the design and the last one I bought was someplace north of $35. Cheap
($20) DVOMs can be found in the electrical department at big box stores
like Home Depot.


Lon wrote:
> Pick up a cheap and small RatShack digital voltmeter and check for
> voltage drop where there shouldn't be any. Your battery should be at
> least 12.4 volts when disconnected, and shouldn't drop when connected.
>
> Quick check would be from engine to that ground by the battery on the
> fender. A tenth of a volt while cranking would be the most. Could be
> something loose or corroded to crud under the power distribution center
> as well... if you have good voltage and no drop when measured at the
> starter solenoid stud to battery ground, alternator ground, and engine
> block.
>
>
> RoyJ proclaimed:
>
>> Check to see if you have headlights when you have the charger/boost on
>> the battery terminals. No lights = bad cable.
>>
>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it did this same thing in November. I thought it was the battery
>>> so I replaced that, and the connectors on the battery cables at the
>>> battery. At that time the battery was showing 50% charge on the
>>> charger gage. This battery is showing 100% on the charger gage and
>>> charging seems to have no affect. Last time the car was jump off
>>> capable, which is how my wife got home with it. This time that does
>>> not seem to bring it back to life. The only thing that seems to do
>>> that is to disconnect the battery and reconnect after letting it set a
>>> while.
>>>
>>> I am thinking cables at this point, but I am open to what people think,
>>> Thanks,
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> c wrote:
>>>
>>>> It could also just be a battery that has gone bad too, but like Roy
>>>> said,
>>>> check the battery cables and connections first.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:FOWrg.5132$ye3.4573@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>>
>>>>> The 'click and bam' sounds like you lost one of the connections on the
>>>>> main cables, quite common. Trace out the positive and negative battery
>>>>> cables, look for one with a loose fit at the crimp where the cable
>>>>> goes
>>>>> into the battery clamp or lug. If you can get some power going,
>>>>> feel the
>>>>> cable ends (carefully!). When you find a hot one, replace that
>>>>> cable. The
>>>>> first one I'd look at is the ground cable where it attaches to the
>>>>> engine
>>>>> block, it takes the most vibration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> quincy451@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The car:
>>>>>> a 97 Jeep Grande Cheerokee Larado 2 WD inline 6 cyclinder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Car has been running fine until today. I completed a short trip,
>>>>>> and got home. Then I went to make another short trip. And
>>>>>> I turn the key on to start the car and I hear a click and bam the
>>>>>> entire car is dead. No power anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I charged the battery to no avail. The jump setting from the
>>>>>> battery charger was a no go. It showed good voltage on
>>>>>> the charger anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I disconnected the battery and left it like that for a while. Then
>>>>>> I reconnected the cables. At that point the lights where back.
>>>>>> But try and start it and everything is dead again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something when I go to start it is killing everything. What might
>>>>>> it be??? Any ideas???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>



--

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(tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
temperature in AFU Labs.


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