L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
find.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> From:
>
> http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
>
> and:
>
> http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
>
> Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
> conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
> run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
> ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
> ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
> which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
> actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
> diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
> similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
> fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
> transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
> (which increases national security), it does not affect engine
> performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
> product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
> 1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
> engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
> "engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
> fuel tank."
>
> 2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
> stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
> transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
>
> 3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
> Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
> plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
> from using biodiesel.
>
> 4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
> diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
> "B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
>
> 5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
> engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
> that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
> acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
> 5% biodiesel.
>
> 6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
> non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
> is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
>
> 7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
> ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
> fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
>
> 8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
> mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
> consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
> by biodiesel.
>
> 9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
> comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
> Biodiesel
>
> The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
> transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
> Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
> or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
> the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
> mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
> sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
> oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
> and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
> used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
> esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
> directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
> diesel fuel.
>
> Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
> uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
> vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
>
> Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
> diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
> from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
> weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
> designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
> environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
> minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
> viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
> engines.
>
> To learn more about making biodiesel read:
>
> Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
> as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
>
> Q
>
> What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
> alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
>
> A
>
> ? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also be
> used.
> Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
> the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
> open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
> tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
> do not
> recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
> >From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
>
> Q
> How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
>
>
> A
>
> About 50 cents.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
find.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> From:
>
> http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
>
> and:
>
> http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
>
> Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
> conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
> run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
> ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
> ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
> which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
> actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
> diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
> similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
> fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
> transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
> (which increases national security), it does not affect engine
> performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
> product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
> 1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
> engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
> "engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
> fuel tank."
>
> 2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
> stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
> transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
>
> 3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
> Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
> plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
> from using biodiesel.
>
> 4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
> diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
> "B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
>
> 5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
> engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
> that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
> acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
> 5% biodiesel.
>
> 6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
> non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
> is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
>
> 7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
> ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
> fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
>
> 8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
> mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
> consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
> by biodiesel.
>
> 9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
> comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
> Biodiesel
>
> The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
> transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
> Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
> or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
> the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
> mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
> sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
> oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
> and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
> used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
> esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
> directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
> diesel fuel.
>
> Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
> uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
> vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
>
> Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
> diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
> from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
> weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
> designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
> environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
> minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
> viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
> engines.
>
> To learn more about making biodiesel read:
>
> Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
> as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
>
> Q
>
> What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
> alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
>
> A
>
> ? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also be
> used.
> Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
> the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
> open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
> tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
> do not
> recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
> >From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
>
> Q
> How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
>
>
> A
>
> About 50 cents.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
find.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> From:
>
> http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
>
> and:
>
> http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
>
> Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
> conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
> run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
> ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
> ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
> which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
> actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
> diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
> similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
> fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
> transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
> (which increases national security), it does not affect engine
> performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
> product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
> 1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
> engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
> "engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
> fuel tank."
>
> 2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
> stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
> transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
>
> 3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
> Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
> plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
> from using biodiesel.
>
> 4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
> diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
> "B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
>
> 5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
> engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
> that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
> acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
> 5% biodiesel.
>
> 6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
> non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
> is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
>
> 7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
> ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
> fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
>
> 8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
> mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
> consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
> by biodiesel.
>
> 9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
> comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
> Biodiesel
>
> The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
> transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
> Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
> or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
> the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
> mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
> sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
> oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
> and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
> used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
> esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
> directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
> diesel fuel.
>
> Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
> uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
> vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
>
> Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
> diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
> from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
> weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
> designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
> environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
> minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
> viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
> engines.
>
> To learn more about making biodiesel read:
>
> Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
> as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
>
> Q
>
> What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
> alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
>
> A
>
> ? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also be
> used.
> Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
> the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
> open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
> tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
> do not
> recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
> >From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
>
> Q
> How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
>
>
> A
>
> About 50 cents.

jeff

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
> You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
> mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
> find.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>>From:
>>
>>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
>>
>>and:
>>
>>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
>>
>>Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
>>conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
>>run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
>>ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
>>ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
>>which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
>>actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
>>diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
>>similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
>>fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
>>transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
>>(which increases national security), it does not affect engine
>>performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
>>product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
>>1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
>>engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
>>"engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
>>fuel tank."
>>
>>2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
>>stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
>>transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
>>
>>3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
>>Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
>>plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
>>from using biodiesel.
>>
>>4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
>>diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
>>"B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
>>
>>5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
>>engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
>>that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
>>acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
>>5% biodiesel.
>>
>>6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
>>non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
>>is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
>>
>>7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
>>ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
>>fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
>>
>>8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
>>mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
>>consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
>>by biodiesel.
>>
>>9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
>>comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
>>Biodiesel
>>
>>The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
>>transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
>>Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
>>or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
>>the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
>>mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
>>sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
>>oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
>>and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
>>used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
>>esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
>>directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
>>diesel fuel.
>>
>>Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
>>uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
>>vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
>>
>>Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
>>diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
>>from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
>>weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
>>designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
>>environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
>>minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
>>viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
>>engines.
>>
>>To learn more about making biodiesel read:
>>
>>Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
>>as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
>>
>>Q
>>
>>What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
>>alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
>>
>>A
>>
>>? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also be
>>used.
>>Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
>>the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
>>open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
>>tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
>>do not
>>recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
>>>From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
>>
>>Q
>>How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
>>
>>
>>A
>>
>>About 50 cents.

jeff

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
> You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
> mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
> find.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>>From:
>>
>>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
>>
>>and:
>>
>>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
>>
>>Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
>>conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
>>run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
>>ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
>>ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
>>which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
>>actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
>>diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
>>similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
>>fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
>>transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
>>(which increases national security), it does not affect engine
>>performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
>>product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
>>1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
>>engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
>>"engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
>>fuel tank."
>>
>>2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
>>stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
>>transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
>>
>>3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
>>Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
>>plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
>>from using biodiesel.
>>
>>4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
>>diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
>>"B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
>>
>>5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
>>engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
>>that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
>>acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
>>5% biodiesel.
>>
>>6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
>>non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
>>is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
>>
>>7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
>>ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
>>fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
>>
>>8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
>>mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
>>consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
>>by biodiesel.
>>
>>9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
>>comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
>>Biodiesel
>>
>>The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
>>transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
>>Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
>>or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
>>the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
>>mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
>>sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
>>oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
>>and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
>>used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
>>esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
>>directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
>>diesel fuel.
>>
>>Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
>>uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
>>vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
>>
>>Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
>>diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
>>from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
>>weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
>>designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
>>environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
>>minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
>>viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
>>engines.
>>
>>To learn more about making biodiesel read:
>>
>>Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
>>as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
>>
>>Q
>>
>>What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
>>alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
>>
>>A
>>
>>? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also be
>>used.
>>Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
>>the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
>>open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
>>tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
>>do not
>>recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
>>>From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
>>
>>Q
>>How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
>>
>>
>>A
>>
>>About 50 cents.

jeff

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
> You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
> mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
> find.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>>From:
>>
>>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
>>
>>and:
>>
>>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
>>
>>Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
>>conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
>>run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
>>ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
>>ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
>>which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
>>actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
>>diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
>>similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
>>fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
>>transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
>>(which increases national security), it does not affect engine
>>performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
>>product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
>>1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
>>engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
>>"engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
>>fuel tank."
>>
>>2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
>>stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
>>transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
>>
>>3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
>>Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
>>plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
>>from using biodiesel.
>>
>>4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
>>diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
>>"B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
>>
>>5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
>>engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
>>that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
>>acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
>>5% biodiesel.
>>
>>6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
>>non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
>>is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
>>
>>7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
>>ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
>>fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
>>
>>8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
>>mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
>>consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
>>by biodiesel.
>>
>>9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
>>comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
>>Biodiesel
>>
>>The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
>>transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
>>Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
>>or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
>>the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
>>mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
>>sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
>>oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
>>and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
>>used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
>>esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
>>directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
>>diesel fuel.
>>
>>Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
>>uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
>>vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
>>
>>Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
>>diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
>>from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
>>weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
>>designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
>>environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
>>minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
>>viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
>>engines.
>>
>>To learn more about making biodiesel read:
>>
>>Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
>>as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
>>
>>Q
>>
>>What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
>>alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
>>
>>A
>>
>>? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also be
>>used.
>>Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
>>the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
>>open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
>>tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
>>do not
>>recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
>>>From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
>>
>>Q
>>How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
>>
>>
>>A
>>
>>About 50 cents.

jeff

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
> You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
> mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
> find.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>>From:
>>
>>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
>>
>>and:
>>
>>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
>>
>>Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
>>conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
>>run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
>>ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
>>ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
>>which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
>>actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
>>diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
>>similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
>>fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
>>transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
>>(which increases national security), it does not affect engine
>>performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
>>product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
>>1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
>>engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
>>"engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
>>fuel tank."
>>
>>2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
>>stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
>>transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
>>
>>3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
>>Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
>>plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
>>from using biodiesel.
>>
>>4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
>>diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
>>"B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
>>
>>5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
>>engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
>>that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
>>acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
>>5% biodiesel.
>>
>>6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
>>non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
>>is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
>>
>>7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
>>ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
>>fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
>>
>>8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
>>mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
>>consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
>>by biodiesel.
>>
>>9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
>>comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
>>Biodiesel
>>
>>The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
>>transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
>>Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
>>or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
>>the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
>>mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
>>sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
>>oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
>>and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
>>used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
>>esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
>>directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
>>diesel fuel.
>>
>>Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
>>uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
>>vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
>>
>>Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
>>diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
>>from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
>>weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
>>designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
>>environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
>>minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
>>viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
>>engines.
>>
>>To learn more about making biodiesel read:
>>
>>Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
>>as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
>>
>>Q
>>
>>What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
>>alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
>>
>>A
>>
>>? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also be
>>used.
>>Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
>>the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
>>open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
>>tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
>>do not
>>recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
>>>From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
>>
>>Q
>>How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
>>
>>
>>A
>>
>>About 50 cents.

Tom Greening

http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/pr...ister_plus.asp

Even better. Plus check out the FAQ.

The only problem is the diesel option on my Super Duty (5 years ago) was
just under $5,000.00. Add to that the cost of buying the "refinery" for
making my own bio-diesel and I'm at the lions share of a $10,000 bill.
Let's assume I burn a tank a week and call it 25 gallons. At $3.00 gallon
it costs $75.00 to fill.

Now biodiesel: The oil may be free but the gas to go get it isn't. I
don't care what the website says, my time is worth something and it gets
calculated as well in my book. They say biodiesel costs about $0.70/gal. to
produce at home. Add fuel and time costs and call it $1.00/gal. That's
still pretty damn cheap fuel. But...

It costs me $2.00/gal more for gas (right now. I don't see it staying
there), at 25 gallons a week which means an extra $50.00/wk for fuel. Fifty
two weeks a year times $50.00 equals $2,600.00 a year in "extra" fuel costs.
I'm looking at 4 years just to break even on my investment in the diesel
engine and the garage refinery. That's assuming I burn that much fuel each
and every week, which I don't.

It sounds very interesting but I think I'd need a little more convincing
before I could be sold on that idea.



"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:i9BTe.10709$9q4.9125@trnddc08...
> http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
> > You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
> > mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
> > find.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> >>From:
> >>
> >>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
> >>
> >>and:
> >>
> >>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
> >>
> >>Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
> >>conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
> >>run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
> >>ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
> >>ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
> >>which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
> >>actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
> >>diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
> >>similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
> >>fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
> >>transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
> >>(which increases national security), it does not affect engine
> >>performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
> >>product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
> >>1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
> >>engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
> >>"engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
> >>fuel tank."
> >>
> >>2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
> >>stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
> >>transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
> >>
> >>3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
> >>Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
> >>plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
> >>from using biodiesel.
> >>
> >>4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
> >>diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
> >>"B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
> >>
> >>5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
> >>engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
> >>that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
> >>acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
> >>5% biodiesel.
> >>
> >>6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
> >>non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
> >>is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
> >>
> >>7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
> >>ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
> >>fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
> >>
> >>8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
> >>mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
> >>consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
> >>by biodiesel.
> >>
> >>9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
> >>comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
> >>Biodiesel
> >>
> >>The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
> >>transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
> >>Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
> >>or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
> >>the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
> >>mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
> >>sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
> >>oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
> >>and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
> >>used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
> >>esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
> >>directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
> >>diesel fuel.
> >>
> >>Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
> >>uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
> >>vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
> >>
> >>Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
> >>diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
> >>from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
> >>weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
> >>designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
> >>environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
> >>minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
> >>viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
> >>engines.
> >>
> >>To learn more about making biodiesel read:
> >>
> >>Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
> >>as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
> >>
> >>Q
> >>
> >>What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
> >>alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
> >>
> >>A
> >>
> >>? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also
be
> >>used.
> >>Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
> >>the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
> >>open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
> >>tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
> >>do not
> >>recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
> >>>From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
> >>
> >>Q
> >>How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
> >>
> >>
> >>A
> >>
> >>About 50 cents.

Tom Greening

http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/pr...ister_plus.asp

Even better. Plus check out the FAQ.

The only problem is the diesel option on my Super Duty (5 years ago) was
just under $5,000.00. Add to that the cost of buying the "refinery" for
making my own bio-diesel and I'm at the lions share of a $10,000 bill.
Let's assume I burn a tank a week and call it 25 gallons. At $3.00 gallon
it costs $75.00 to fill.

Now biodiesel: The oil may be free but the gas to go get it isn't. I
don't care what the website says, my time is worth something and it gets
calculated as well in my book. They say biodiesel costs about $0.70/gal. to
produce at home. Add fuel and time costs and call it $1.00/gal. That's
still pretty damn cheap fuel. But...

It costs me $2.00/gal more for gas (right now. I don't see it staying
there), at 25 gallons a week which means an extra $50.00/wk for fuel. Fifty
two weeks a year times $50.00 equals $2,600.00 a year in "extra" fuel costs.
I'm looking at 4 years just to break even on my investment in the diesel
engine and the garage refinery. That's assuming I burn that much fuel each
and every week, which I don't.

It sounds very interesting but I think I'd need a little more convincing
before I could be sold on that idea.



"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:i9BTe.10709$9q4.9125@trnddc08...
> http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
> > You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
> > mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
> > find.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> >>From:
> >>
> >>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
> >>
> >>and:
> >>
> >>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
> >>
> >>Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
> >>conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
> >>run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
> >>ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
> >>ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
> >>which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
> >>actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
> >>diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
> >>similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
> >>fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
> >>transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
> >>(which increases national security), it does not affect engine
> >>performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
> >>product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
> >>1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
> >>engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
> >>"engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
> >>fuel tank."
> >>
> >>2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
> >>stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
> >>transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
> >>
> >>3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
> >>Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
> >>plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
> >>from using biodiesel.
> >>
> >>4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
> >>diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
> >>"B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
> >>
> >>5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
> >>engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
> >>that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
> >>acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
> >>5% biodiesel.
> >>
> >>6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
> >>non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
> >>is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
> >>
> >>7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
> >>ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
> >>fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
> >>
> >>8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
> >>mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
> >>consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
> >>by biodiesel.
> >>
> >>9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
> >>comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
> >>Biodiesel
> >>
> >>The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
> >>transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
> >>Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
> >>or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
> >>the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
> >>mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
> >>sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
> >>oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
> >>and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
> >>used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
> >>esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
> >>directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
> >>diesel fuel.
> >>
> >>Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
> >>uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
> >>vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
> >>
> >>Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
> >>diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
> >>from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
> >>weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
> >>designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
> >>environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
> >>minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
> >>viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
> >>engines.
> >>
> >>To learn more about making biodiesel read:
> >>
> >>Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
> >>as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
> >>
> >>Q
> >>
> >>What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
> >>alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
> >>
> >>A
> >>
> >>? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also
be
> >>used.
> >>Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
> >>the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
> >>open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
> >>tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
> >>do not
> >>recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
> >>>From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
> >>
> >>Q
> >>How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
> >>
> >>
> >>A
> >>
> >>About 50 cents.

Tom Greening

http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/pr...ister_plus.asp

Even better. Plus check out the FAQ.

The only problem is the diesel option on my Super Duty (5 years ago) was
just under $5,000.00. Add to that the cost of buying the "refinery" for
making my own bio-diesel and I'm at the lions share of a $10,000 bill.
Let's assume I burn a tank a week and call it 25 gallons. At $3.00 gallon
it costs $75.00 to fill.

Now biodiesel: The oil may be free but the gas to go get it isn't. I
don't care what the website says, my time is worth something and it gets
calculated as well in my book. They say biodiesel costs about $0.70/gal. to
produce at home. Add fuel and time costs and call it $1.00/gal. That's
still pretty damn cheap fuel. But...

It costs me $2.00/gal more for gas (right now. I don't see it staying
there), at 25 gallons a week which means an extra $50.00/wk for fuel. Fifty
two weeks a year times $50.00 equals $2,600.00 a year in "extra" fuel costs.
I'm looking at 4 years just to break even on my investment in the diesel
engine and the garage refinery. That's assuming I burn that much fuel each
and every week, which I don't.

It sounds very interesting but I think I'd need a little more convincing
before I could be sold on that idea.



"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:i9BTe.10709$9q4.9125@trnddc08...
> http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > The sites still didn't give me a real formula.
> > You copy a bunch of paragraph that write of five and twenty percent
> > mix with real diesel using oil and methanol at a price no one could
> > find.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> >>From:
> >>
> >>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/faq/
> >>
> >>and:
> >>
> >>http://www.biodieselamerica.org/bios...id=7,0,0,1,0,0
> >>
> >>Biodiesel runs in any unmodified diesel engine. There is no "engine
> >>conversion" typical of other alternative fuels. The diesel engine can
> >>run on biodiesel because it operates on the principle of compression
> >>ignition whereby air is compressed and then fuel is sprayed into the
> >>ultra-hot, ultra-pressured combustion chamber. Unlike gasoline engines,
> >>which use a spark to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines
> >>actually use fuel to ignite hot air. This simple process allows the
> >>diesel engine to run on thick fuels. Since biodiesel is chemically
> >>similar to petroleum diesel fuel, you can pour biodiesel right into the
> >>fuel tank of any diesel vehicle. Biodiesel has many advantages as a
> >>transport fuel. Biodiesel has lower emissions, it is made domestically
> >>(which increases national security), it does not affect engine
> >>performance and biodiesel is produced from plants. Since plants are a
> >>product of solar energy, biodiesel is "liquid solar fuel."
> >>1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No
> >>engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no
> >>"engine conversion." In other words, "you just pour it into the
> >>fuel tank."
> >>
> >>2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is
> >>stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and
> >>transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
> >>
> >>3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the
> >>Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and
> >>plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide
> >>from using biodiesel.
> >>
> >>4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum
> >>diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called
> >>"B20," a 5% blend is called "B5" and so on.
> >>
> >>5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the
> >>engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent
> >>that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in
> >>acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains
> >>5% biodiesel.
> >>
> >>6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and
> >>non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, "neat biodiesel
> >>is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt."
> >>
> >>7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or
> >>ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel
> >>fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
> >>
> >>8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel
> >>mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel
> >>consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected
> >>by biodiesel.
> >>
> >>9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in
> >>comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.Make
> >>Biodiesel
> >>
> >>The process of converting vegetable oil into biodiesel fuel is called
> >>transesterification and is luckily less complex than it sounds.
> >>Chemically, transesterification means taking a triglyceride molecule,
> >>or a complex fatty acid, neutralizing the free fatty acids, removing
> >>the glycerin, and creating an alcohol ester. This is accomplished by
> >>mixing methanol (wood alcohol) with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make
> >>sodium methoxide. This dangerous liquid is then mixed into vegetable
> >>oil. The entire mixture then settles. Glycerin is left on the bottom
> >>and methyl esters, or biodiesel, is left on top. The glycerin can be
> >>used to make soap (or any one of 1,600 other products) and the methyl
> >>esters is washed and filtered. The resulting biodiesel fuel when used
> >>directly in a Diesel engine will burn up to 75% cleaner than petroleum
> >>diesel fuel.
> >>
> >>Transesterification was conducted as early as 1853. One of the first
> >>uses of biodiesel (transesterified vegetable oil) was powering heavy
> >>vehicles in South Africa before World War II.
> >>
> >>Why make biodiesel? Vegetable is a much more dense substance than
> >>diesel but biodiesel is very similar to diesel fuel. Biodiesel benefits
> >>from a viscosity that is twice that of diesel fuel and a molecular
> >>weight is roughly 1/3 of vegetable oil. Most Diesel engines were
> >>designed to use highly lubricating, high sulfur content fuel. Recent
> >>environmental legislature has forced diesel fuel to contain only a
> >>minimum amount of sulfur for lubricating purposes. Thus, the high
> >>viscosity of biodiesel makes it a perfect fuel of choice for diesel
> >>engines.
> >>
> >>To learn more about making biodiesel read:
> >>
> >>Joshua Tickell's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank (Now available
> >>as a 15meg, downloadable, printable and transferable PDF).
> >>
> >>Q
> >>
> >>What type of alcohol is used to produce biodiesel, where you get the
> >>alcohol, and what is the cost of the alcohol?
> >>
> >>A
> >>
> >>? Methanol alcohol is typically used but ethanol alcohol can also
be
> >>used.
> >>Methanol costs between $1.50 and $2.00 a gallons in 55 gallon drums in
> >>the United States. Methanol sells for about US $0.60 per gallon on the
> >>open market. It is an alcohol used for racing cars. We buy it at race
> >>tracks and transport it in plastic, red, 5-gallon fuel containers. We
> >>do not
> >>recommend storing it. More information on methanol can be found in
> >>>From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank.
> >>
> >>Q
> >>How much does a gallon of home-made biodiesel fuel cost?
> >>
> >>
> >>A
> >>
> >>About 50 cents.