Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:56:05 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> I once sold a clutch

Once? You used to do it all the time in your younger days.

> because the transfer was in neutral

Meaning what? You didn't get paid or you just couldn't rise to the
occasion?

> he heeded one anyway. ;-)

Well, at least he was paying attention, even if he didn't pay you
properly.


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>
> "Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> Or he's got the transfer case in neutral...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>

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Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:56:05 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> I once sold a clutch

Once? You used to do it all the time in your younger days.

> because the transfer was in neutral

Meaning what? You didn't get paid or you just couldn't rise to the
occasion?

> he heeded one anyway. ;-)

Well, at least he was paying attention, even if he didn't pay you
properly.


> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:47288d17$0$26507$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Or he's got the transfer case in neutral...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>

--
Cooyon Billie might actually be good with computers. After all, long
before they were available to the public, he was already quite adept
at Booting the Colonel......

Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:56:05 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> I once sold a clutch

Once? You used to do it all the time in your younger days.

> because the transfer was in neutral

Meaning what? You didn't get paid or you just couldn't rise to the
occasion?

> he heeded one anyway. ;-)

Well, at least he was paying attention, even if he didn't pay you
properly.


> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:47288d17$0$26507$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Or he's got the transfer case in neutral...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>

--
Cooyon Billie might actually be good with computers. After all, long
before they were available to the public, he was already quite adept
at Booting the Colonel......

Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:58:33 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> Forgery forwarded

Bad news, Cooyon. That's not forgery, it's satire, and still all nice and
legally protected by what little is left of your Constitution and Bill of
Rights.

--
Cooyon Billie might actually be good with computers. After all, long
before they were available to the public, he was already quite adept
at Booting the Colonel......

Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:58:33 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> Forgery forwarded

Bad news, Cooyon. That's not forgery, it's satire, and still all nice and
legally protected by what little is left of your Constitution and Bill of
Rights.

--
Cooyon Billie might actually be good with computers. After all, long
before they were available to the public, he was already quite adept
at Booting the Colonel......

Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:58:33 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> Forgery forwarded

Bad news, Cooyon. That's not forgery, it's satire, and still all nice and
legally protected by what little is left of your Constitution and Bill of
Rights.

--
Cooyon Billie might actually be good with computers. After all, long
before they were available to the public, he was already quite adept
at Booting the Colonel......

Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

On Oct 31, 3:20 pm, jelwell1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> sooo yeah I am a friggin idiot...I forgot to lock the hubs!!
> As soon as I can get a ride and a 8mm socket I'll be rollin...
>
> How can I tell before getting everything back together if I need a new
> rear pinion?
> It vibrated for about 2 weeks before it blew.
>
> Thanks for the responses,
> -J-(an idiot...lock the hubs!!)
>
> On Oct 30, 9:22 pm, jelwell1...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > So Here is my problem...
> > I have a 1985 Jeep CJ-7 with the inline 6 4.2...
> > About 2 weeks ago I developed a vibration when accelerating in 1st
> > and
> > 3rd around 2500-3000 RPM. I could not figure it out!! I thought i
> > might have had an alignment problem or something to do with recently
> > greased joints...Well today My driveshaft dropped from the rear-end
> > side. The bolts in the connector snapped off. I am thinking either
> > from the harmonic balancer or maybe one bolt broke and then the
> > vibrations broke the other. Well I decided I would just pull the
> > driveshaft, throw it into 4 wheel drive and limp it home like a FWD.
> > Well first I could not get the driveshaft off...could not pull it
> > from
> > the transmission, and could not loosen the bolts. I decided to try
> > and
> > tie it up so it would spin freely without hurting anything else(yeah
> > ghetto I know). But when I put it into 4WD I could shift through the
> > gears without hitting the clutch, and the car would not move...??
> > Am i missing something? I thought for sure this would work. I also
> > know that my 4WD works. Did I burn out my clutch somehow too? Any
> > ideas here...my poor baby is sitting on the highway...I'd rather tow
> > it to my house than a mechanic!!
> > Thanks for the help
> > Jeremy

Jeremy,

If you had vibration, you may have had a bad U-joint. Make sure you
buy ones with grease fittings, and keep them greased. The U-joints
with grease fittings are about $13 each at O'Reilly's, along with new
bolts and straps. Also, use some locktite to keep the bolts from
backing out. That can happen even with good U-joints.

BTW, are you sure it's 8 mm? The bolts on mine are SAE, although some
are 12 point, some have the internal hex fitting, and others are 6
point. No metric amongst them.

Finally, I doubt you damaged anything but your U-joints (and
pride :). I've lost my U-joints a couple of times at freeway speed,
and all that was required was new U-joints. No noticeable vibration
from the driveshaft smacking the ground, although I did stop as soon
as I could.

Michael White

Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

On Oct 31, 3:20 pm, jelwell1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> sooo yeah I am a friggin idiot...I forgot to lock the hubs!!
> As soon as I can get a ride and a 8mm socket I'll be rollin...
>
> How can I tell before getting everything back together if I need a new
> rear pinion?
> It vibrated for about 2 weeks before it blew.
>
> Thanks for the responses,
> -J-(an idiot...lock the hubs!!)
>
> On Oct 30, 9:22 pm, jelwell1...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > So Here is my problem...
> > I have a 1985 Jeep CJ-7 with the inline 6 4.2...
> > About 2 weeks ago I developed a vibration when accelerating in 1st
> > and
> > 3rd around 2500-3000 RPM. I could not figure it out!! I thought i
> > might have had an alignment problem or something to do with recently
> > greased joints...Well today My driveshaft dropped from the rear-end
> > side. The bolts in the connector snapped off. I am thinking either
> > from the harmonic balancer or maybe one bolt broke and then the
> > vibrations broke the other. Well I decided I would just pull the
> > driveshaft, throw it into 4 wheel drive and limp it home like a FWD.
> > Well first I could not get the driveshaft off...could not pull it
> > from
> > the transmission, and could not loosen the bolts. I decided to try
> > and
> > tie it up so it would spin freely without hurting anything else(yeah
> > ghetto I know). But when I put it into 4WD I could shift through the
> > gears without hitting the clutch, and the car would not move...??
> > Am i missing something? I thought for sure this would work. I also
> > know that my 4WD works. Did I burn out my clutch somehow too? Any
> > ideas here...my poor baby is sitting on the highway...I'd rather tow
> > it to my house than a mechanic!!
> > Thanks for the help
> > Jeremy

Jeremy,

If you had vibration, you may have had a bad U-joint. Make sure you
buy ones with grease fittings, and keep them greased. The U-joints
with grease fittings are about $13 each at O'Reilly's, along with new
bolts and straps. Also, use some locktite to keep the bolts from
backing out. That can happen even with good U-joints.

BTW, are you sure it's 8 mm? The bolts on mine are SAE, although some
are 12 point, some have the internal hex fitting, and others are 6
point. No metric amongst them.

Finally, I doubt you damaged anything but your U-joints (and
pride :). I've lost my U-joints a couple of times at freeway speed,
and all that was required was new U-joints. No noticeable vibration
from the driveshaft smacking the ground, although I did stop as soon
as I could.

Michael White

Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

On Oct 31, 3:20 pm, jelwell1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> sooo yeah I am a friggin idiot...I forgot to lock the hubs!!
> As soon as I can get a ride and a 8mm socket I'll be rollin...
>
> How can I tell before getting everything back together if I need a new
> rear pinion?
> It vibrated for about 2 weeks before it blew.
>
> Thanks for the responses,
> -J-(an idiot...lock the hubs!!)
>
> On Oct 30, 9:22 pm, jelwell1...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > So Here is my problem...
> > I have a 1985 Jeep CJ-7 with the inline 6 4.2...
> > About 2 weeks ago I developed a vibration when accelerating in 1st
> > and
> > 3rd around 2500-3000 RPM. I could not figure it out!! I thought i
> > might have had an alignment problem or something to do with recently
> > greased joints...Well today My driveshaft dropped from the rear-end
> > side. The bolts in the connector snapped off. I am thinking either
> > from the harmonic balancer or maybe one bolt broke and then the
> > vibrations broke the other. Well I decided I would just pull the
> > driveshaft, throw it into 4 wheel drive and limp it home like a FWD.
> > Well first I could not get the driveshaft off...could not pull it
> > from
> > the transmission, and could not loosen the bolts. I decided to try
> > and
> > tie it up so it would spin freely without hurting anything else(yeah
> > ghetto I know). But when I put it into 4WD I could shift through the
> > gears without hitting the clutch, and the car would not move...??
> > Am i missing something? I thought for sure this would work. I also
> > know that my 4WD works. Did I burn out my clutch somehow too? Any
> > ideas here...my poor baby is sitting on the highway...I'd rather tow
> > it to my house than a mechanic!!
> > Thanks for the help
> > Jeremy

Jeremy,

If you had vibration, you may have had a bad U-joint. Make sure you
buy ones with grease fittings, and keep them greased. The U-joints
with grease fittings are about $13 each at O'Reilly's, along with new
bolts and straps. Also, use some locktite to keep the bolts from
backing out. That can happen even with good U-joints.

BTW, are you sure it's 8 mm? The bolts on mine are SAE, although some
are 12 point, some have the internal hex fitting, and others are 6
point. No metric amongst them.

Finally, I doubt you damaged anything but your U-joints (and
pride :). I've lost my U-joints a couple of times at freeway speed,
and all that was required was new U-joints. No noticeable vibration
from the driveshaft smacking the ground, although I did stop as soon
as I could.

Michael White

Re: Jeep CJ-7 driveshaft and clutch?
 

If he replaces the yoke he needs to follow the proper procedure,
as explained in the service manual for his model and year, or he
may blow out the pinion bearings. The new yoke may necessitate
a new crush sleeve or different shims, depending on the model of
rear axle. If this thing vibrated for two weeks before it blew,
there is some chance that he bent the pinion too. A sign of
that will be inability to install the new yoke according to
directions. That is, the pinion won't turn all the way around
with the same preload. Chances are pretty good that this stuff
is all OK, but you never know.

Cheers,

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4728ed7e$0$15395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Look in the cups where the u-joint sits for the end tabs.
These tabs
> need to hold the u-joint from moving side to side so if they
are bent or
> missing, you need a new yoke.
>
> When you fit the new u-joint, if it fits snug between these
tabs, you
> are good to go.
>
> They usually are bad after a blow out, not always, but....
>
> They cannot be bent back straight, the yoke is cast. I have
heard of
> folks welding the caps in, but...
>
> Mike
>
> jelwell1982@yahoo.com wrote:
> > sooo yeah I am a friggin idiot...I forgot to lock the hubs!!
> > As soon as I can get a ride and a 8mm socket I'll be
rollin...
> >
> > How can I tell before getting everything back together if I
need a new
> > rear pinion?
> > It vibrated for about 2 weeks before it blew.
> >
> > Thanks for the responses,
> > -J-(an idiot...lock the hubs!!)
> >
> > On Oct 30, 9:22 pm, jelwell1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> So Here is my problem...
> >> I have a 1985 Jeep CJ-7 with the inline 6 4.2...
> >> About 2 weeks ago I developed a vibration when accelerating
in 1st
> >> and
> >> 3rd around 2500-3000 RPM. I could not figure it out!! I
thought i
> >> might have had an alignment problem or something to do with
recently
> >> greased joints...Well today My driveshaft dropped from the
rear-end
> >> side. The bolts in the connector snapped off. I am thinking
either
> >> from the harmonic balancer or maybe one bolt broke and then
the
> >> vibrations broke the other. Well I decided I would just
pull the
> >> driveshaft, throw it into 4 wheel drive and limp it home
like a FWD.
> >> Well first I could not get the driveshaft off...could not
pull it
> >> from
> >> the transmission, and could not loosen the bolts. I decided
to try
> >> and
> >> tie it up so it would spin freely without hurting anything
else(yeah
> >> ghetto I know). But when I put it into 4WD I could shift
through the
> >> gears without hitting the clutch, and the car would not
move...??
> >> Am i missing something? I thought for sure this would work.
I also
> >> know that my 4WD works. Did I burn out my clutch somehow
too? Any
> >> ideas here...my poor baby is sitting on the highway...I'd
rather tow
> >> it to my house than a mechanic!!
> >> Thanks for the help
> >> Jeremy
> >
> >



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