Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
05-10-2004, 09:00 AM
#11
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
In article <wMDnc.104$Bs1.69804@news.uswest.net>,
Gene Poon <sheehans@ap.net> wrote:
> Did anyone pump the tank dry to get rid of any water in it? If there is
> water in the tank, the fabric fibers in the fuel tank "screen" filter
> will swell up as it absorbs that water. It takes some time, depending
> on how much water is in the tank, before it starts blocking fuel flow
> enough to affect performance. Then when the engine is shut off or the
> fuel pump is no longer pushing as much of the water-contaminated fuel
> through the fabric, the fibers shrink and pass the fuel again.
>
> That fabric in the filter swells up and reduces flow INTENTIONALLY to
> prevent excess water from getting to the fuel system. That's been done
> since carburetor days.
>
> Water in the tank may not be from contaminated fuel sources. It could
> condense in the tank due to temperature fluctuations.
What absolute utter nonsense...
This "fabric" as you call it is Nylon.
Nylon doesn't swell in the presence of water.
If he had water in his fuel, the problem would be there all the
time and would effect the injectors (fuel delivery) long before
it would effect the fuel supply system (as evidenced by his loss
of fuel pressure).
Odds are, since the original repair took the cheap route, he has
another failing fuel pump.
Gene Poon <sheehans@ap.net> wrote:
> Did anyone pump the tank dry to get rid of any water in it? If there is
> water in the tank, the fabric fibers in the fuel tank "screen" filter
> will swell up as it absorbs that water. It takes some time, depending
> on how much water is in the tank, before it starts blocking fuel flow
> enough to affect performance. Then when the engine is shut off or the
> fuel pump is no longer pushing as much of the water-contaminated fuel
> through the fabric, the fibers shrink and pass the fuel again.
>
> That fabric in the filter swells up and reduces flow INTENTIONALLY to
> prevent excess water from getting to the fuel system. That's been done
> since carburetor days.
>
> Water in the tank may not be from contaminated fuel sources. It could
> condense in the tank due to temperature fluctuations.
What absolute utter nonsense...
This "fabric" as you call it is Nylon.
Nylon doesn't swell in the presence of water.
If he had water in his fuel, the problem would be there all the
time and would effect the injectors (fuel delivery) long before
it would effect the fuel supply system (as evidenced by his loss
of fuel pressure).
Odds are, since the original repair took the cheap route, he has
another failing fuel pump.
05-10-2004, 09:00 AM
#12
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
In article <wMDnc.104$Bs1.69804@news.uswest.net>,
Gene Poon <sheehans@ap.net> wrote:
> Did anyone pump the tank dry to get rid of any water in it? If there is
> water in the tank, the fabric fibers in the fuel tank "screen" filter
> will swell up as it absorbs that water. It takes some time, depending
> on how much water is in the tank, before it starts blocking fuel flow
> enough to affect performance. Then when the engine is shut off or the
> fuel pump is no longer pushing as much of the water-contaminated fuel
> through the fabric, the fibers shrink and pass the fuel again.
>
> That fabric in the filter swells up and reduces flow INTENTIONALLY to
> prevent excess water from getting to the fuel system. That's been done
> since carburetor days.
>
> Water in the tank may not be from contaminated fuel sources. It could
> condense in the tank due to temperature fluctuations.
What absolute utter nonsense...
This "fabric" as you call it is Nylon.
Nylon doesn't swell in the presence of water.
If he had water in his fuel, the problem would be there all the
time and would effect the injectors (fuel delivery) long before
it would effect the fuel supply system (as evidenced by his loss
of fuel pressure).
Odds are, since the original repair took the cheap route, he has
another failing fuel pump.
Gene Poon <sheehans@ap.net> wrote:
> Did anyone pump the tank dry to get rid of any water in it? If there is
> water in the tank, the fabric fibers in the fuel tank "screen" filter
> will swell up as it absorbs that water. It takes some time, depending
> on how much water is in the tank, before it starts blocking fuel flow
> enough to affect performance. Then when the engine is shut off or the
> fuel pump is no longer pushing as much of the water-contaminated fuel
> through the fabric, the fibers shrink and pass the fuel again.
>
> That fabric in the filter swells up and reduces flow INTENTIONALLY to
> prevent excess water from getting to the fuel system. That's been done
> since carburetor days.
>
> Water in the tank may not be from contaminated fuel sources. It could
> condense in the tank due to temperature fluctuations.
What absolute utter nonsense...
This "fabric" as you call it is Nylon.
Nylon doesn't swell in the presence of water.
If he had water in his fuel, the problem would be there all the
time and would effect the injectors (fuel delivery) long before
it would effect the fuel supply system (as evidenced by his loss
of fuel pressure).
Odds are, since the original repair took the cheap route, he has
another failing fuel pump.
05-10-2004, 09:00 AM
#13
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
In article <wMDnc.104$Bs1.69804@news.uswest.net>,
Gene Poon <sheehans@ap.net> wrote:
> Did anyone pump the tank dry to get rid of any water in it? If there is
> water in the tank, the fabric fibers in the fuel tank "screen" filter
> will swell up as it absorbs that water. It takes some time, depending
> on how much water is in the tank, before it starts blocking fuel flow
> enough to affect performance. Then when the engine is shut off or the
> fuel pump is no longer pushing as much of the water-contaminated fuel
> through the fabric, the fibers shrink and pass the fuel again.
>
> That fabric in the filter swells up and reduces flow INTENTIONALLY to
> prevent excess water from getting to the fuel system. That's been done
> since carburetor days.
>
> Water in the tank may not be from contaminated fuel sources. It could
> condense in the tank due to temperature fluctuations.
What absolute utter nonsense...
This "fabric" as you call it is Nylon.
Nylon doesn't swell in the presence of water.
If he had water in his fuel, the problem would be there all the
time and would effect the injectors (fuel delivery) long before
it would effect the fuel supply system (as evidenced by his loss
of fuel pressure).
Odds are, since the original repair took the cheap route, he has
another failing fuel pump.
Gene Poon <sheehans@ap.net> wrote:
> Did anyone pump the tank dry to get rid of any water in it? If there is
> water in the tank, the fabric fibers in the fuel tank "screen" filter
> will swell up as it absorbs that water. It takes some time, depending
> on how much water is in the tank, before it starts blocking fuel flow
> enough to affect performance. Then when the engine is shut off or the
> fuel pump is no longer pushing as much of the water-contaminated fuel
> through the fabric, the fibers shrink and pass the fuel again.
>
> That fabric in the filter swells up and reduces flow INTENTIONALLY to
> prevent excess water from getting to the fuel system. That's been done
> since carburetor days.
>
> Water in the tank may not be from contaminated fuel sources. It could
> condense in the tank due to temperature fluctuations.
What absolute utter nonsense...
This "fabric" as you call it is Nylon.
Nylon doesn't swell in the presence of water.
If he had water in his fuel, the problem would be there all the
time and would effect the injectors (fuel delivery) long before
it would effect the fuel supply system (as evidenced by his loss
of fuel pressure).
Odds are, since the original repair took the cheap route, he has
another failing fuel pump.
05-10-2004, 01:41 PM
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
"Jon" <grantmethat@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: I took the car back into
: town and put it in for a service - the guys replaced a very dirty fuel
: filter.
:
Have you checked the filter since? I'd be willing to bet you have a bunch of
crap in your fuel tank clogging up the screen. When you park, the crap
settles. Drive for a couple hours before it gets clogged up again.
-Brian
05-10-2004, 01:41 PM
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
"Jon" <grantmethat@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: I took the car back into
: town and put it in for a service - the guys replaced a very dirty fuel
: filter.
:
Have you checked the filter since? I'd be willing to bet you have a bunch of
crap in your fuel tank clogging up the screen. When you park, the crap
settles. Drive for a couple hours before it gets clogged up again.
-Brian
05-10-2004, 01:41 PM
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
"Jon" <grantmethat@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: I took the car back into
: town and put it in for a service - the guys replaced a very dirty fuel
: filter.
:
Have you checked the filter since? I'd be willing to bet you have a bunch of
crap in your fuel tank clogging up the screen. When you park, the crap
settles. Drive for a couple hours before it gets clogged up again.
-Brian
05-10-2004, 01:41 PM
#17
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
"Jon" <grantmethat@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: I took the car back into
: town and put it in for a service - the guys replaced a very dirty fuel
: filter.
:
Have you checked the filter since? I'd be willing to bet you have a bunch of
crap in your fuel tank clogging up the screen. When you park, the crap
settles. Drive for a couple hours before it gets clogged up again.
-Brian
05-11-2004, 12:42 PM
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
Neil Nelson <nonelson@sbcglobal.net> got all huffy and rude and
wrote:
> What absolute utter nonsense...
and later followed it up in another message with more rudeness and
conceit and outright bad manners:
> I'd prefer to not believe someone who claims that a
> nylon inlet filter will swell in the presence of water.
and then:
> ...you're wrong anyway as evidenced by the stated fact that
> his fuel pressure is dropping to 20-25 PSI during the problem.
No, Neil. YOU are wrong to behave this way. The original poster
would not have said what he did, if he didn't have something happen
with his car that backs up what he wrote. If it helped him, it might
help the rest of us, too.
Here we have a group where we are supposed to be helping and
suggesting ways to get our cars to run better, and we have this
Know-It-All blowing his self-centric and self-righteous bovine scats.
If it makes him feel better, he must be a very small person indeed.
I have refrained and will refrain from using profanity, but I do have
to conclude that you must have gotten a batch of bad drugs. Go hide
under a rock.
VF
wrote:
> What absolute utter nonsense...
and later followed it up in another message with more rudeness and
conceit and outright bad manners:
> I'd prefer to not believe someone who claims that a
> nylon inlet filter will swell in the presence of water.
and then:
> ...you're wrong anyway as evidenced by the stated fact that
> his fuel pressure is dropping to 20-25 PSI during the problem.
No, Neil. YOU are wrong to behave this way. The original poster
would not have said what he did, if he didn't have something happen
with his car that backs up what he wrote. If it helped him, it might
help the rest of us, too.
Here we have a group where we are supposed to be helping and
suggesting ways to get our cars to run better, and we have this
Know-It-All blowing his self-centric and self-righteous bovine scats.
If it makes him feel better, he must be a very small person indeed.
I have refrained and will refrain from using profanity, but I do have
to conclude that you must have gotten a batch of bad drugs. Go hide
under a rock.
VF
05-11-2004, 12:42 PM
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
Neil Nelson <nonelson@sbcglobal.net> got all huffy and rude and
wrote:
> What absolute utter nonsense...
and later followed it up in another message with more rudeness and
conceit and outright bad manners:
> I'd prefer to not believe someone who claims that a
> nylon inlet filter will swell in the presence of water.
and then:
> ...you're wrong anyway as evidenced by the stated fact that
> his fuel pressure is dropping to 20-25 PSI during the problem.
No, Neil. YOU are wrong to behave this way. The original poster
would not have said what he did, if he didn't have something happen
with his car that backs up what he wrote. If it helped him, it might
help the rest of us, too.
Here we have a group where we are supposed to be helping and
suggesting ways to get our cars to run better, and we have this
Know-It-All blowing his self-centric and self-righteous bovine scats.
If it makes him feel better, he must be a very small person indeed.
I have refrained and will refrain from using profanity, but I do have
to conclude that you must have gotten a batch of bad drugs. Go hide
under a rock.
VF
wrote:
> What absolute utter nonsense...
and later followed it up in another message with more rudeness and
conceit and outright bad manners:
> I'd prefer to not believe someone who claims that a
> nylon inlet filter will swell in the presence of water.
and then:
> ...you're wrong anyway as evidenced by the stated fact that
> his fuel pressure is dropping to 20-25 PSI during the problem.
No, Neil. YOU are wrong to behave this way. The original poster
would not have said what he did, if he didn't have something happen
with his car that backs up what he wrote. If it helped him, it might
help the rest of us, too.
Here we have a group where we are supposed to be helping and
suggesting ways to get our cars to run better, and we have this
Know-It-All blowing his self-centric and self-righteous bovine scats.
If it makes him feel better, he must be a very small person indeed.
I have refrained and will refrain from using profanity, but I do have
to conclude that you must have gotten a batch of bad drugs. Go hide
under a rock.
VF
05-11-2004, 12:42 PM
#20
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Re: Jeep Cherokee Limited 1996 Fuel Problems
Neil Nelson <nonelson@sbcglobal.net> got all huffy and rude and
wrote:
> What absolute utter nonsense...
and later followed it up in another message with more rudeness and
conceit and outright bad manners:
> I'd prefer to not believe someone who claims that a
> nylon inlet filter will swell in the presence of water.
and then:
> ...you're wrong anyway as evidenced by the stated fact that
> his fuel pressure is dropping to 20-25 PSI during the problem.
No, Neil. YOU are wrong to behave this way. The original poster
would not have said what he did, if he didn't have something happen
with his car that backs up what he wrote. If it helped him, it might
help the rest of us, too.
Here we have a group where we are supposed to be helping and
suggesting ways to get our cars to run better, and we have this
Know-It-All blowing his self-centric and self-righteous bovine scats.
If it makes him feel better, he must be a very small person indeed.
I have refrained and will refrain from using profanity, but I do have
to conclude that you must have gotten a batch of bad drugs. Go hide
under a rock.
VF
wrote:
> What absolute utter nonsense...
and later followed it up in another message with more rudeness and
conceit and outright bad manners:
> I'd prefer to not believe someone who claims that a
> nylon inlet filter will swell in the presence of water.
and then:
> ...you're wrong anyway as evidenced by the stated fact that
> his fuel pressure is dropping to 20-25 PSI during the problem.
No, Neil. YOU are wrong to behave this way. The original poster
would not have said what he did, if he didn't have something happen
with his car that backs up what he wrote. If it helped him, it might
help the rest of us, too.
Here we have a group where we are supposed to be helping and
suggesting ways to get our cars to run better, and we have this
Know-It-All blowing his self-centric and self-righteous bovine scats.
If it makes him feel better, he must be a very small person indeed.
I have refrained and will refrain from using profanity, but I do have
to conclude that you must have gotten a batch of bad drugs. Go hide
under a rock.
VF