Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

In article <1187282514.127494.153250@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups .com>,
infiniteMPG <57classic@gmail.com> wrote:
#I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
#brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
#needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
#something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
#there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
#or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
#into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
#myself, I am more then willing to take the time.

Replace, bleed and go for the most part...

Make sure you get teves pads if you have teves calipers and akebono
pads if you have akebono calipers. If you have teves calipers, consider
upgrading to akebono calipers. If you upgrade, get new rotors. Take
the teves calipers and put them on your TJ. WJ teves are a upgrade for
the TJ.

Don't chince out on the rotors. The made-in-china-inc junk will warp
and warp and warp. Don't bother with vented or slotted rotors--most
of them are made-in-china-inc junk with holes and slots in them so they
will crack or warp on you that much faster.

If you turn the rotors, you MUST match-mark them so that you can put
them back on exactly as they came off. DC says to use a on-the-car
turning machine... Unless you have a rotor that looks like a record
alblum from hell, you don't need to turn. And if you do, I would just
say screw it and get new rotors.

Use a torque wrench for the bolts.

The manual says the bolts that hold the caliper in place are single-use
but I've never seen a shop or dealer use new ones unless it was a teves
to akebono upgrade (the kit comes with new bolts). YMMV.

It's all metric after you get the lug nuts off.

/herb

Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

In article <1187282514.127494.153250@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups .com>,
infiniteMPG <57classic@gmail.com> wrote:
#I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
#brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
#needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
#something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
#there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
#or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
#into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
#myself, I am more then willing to take the time.

Replace, bleed and go for the most part...

Make sure you get teves pads if you have teves calipers and akebono
pads if you have akebono calipers. If you have teves calipers, consider
upgrading to akebono calipers. If you upgrade, get new rotors. Take
the teves calipers and put them on your TJ. WJ teves are a upgrade for
the TJ.

Don't chince out on the rotors. The made-in-china-inc junk will warp
and warp and warp. Don't bother with vented or slotted rotors--most
of them are made-in-china-inc junk with holes and slots in them so they
will crack or warp on you that much faster.

If you turn the rotors, you MUST match-mark them so that you can put
them back on exactly as they came off. DC says to use a on-the-car
turning machine... Unless you have a rotor that looks like a record
alblum from hell, you don't need to turn. And if you do, I would just
say screw it and get new rotors.

Use a torque wrench for the bolts.

The manual says the bolts that hold the caliper in place are single-use
but I've never seen a shop or dealer use new ones unless it was a teves
to akebono upgrade (the kit comes with new bolts). YMMV.

It's all metric after you get the lug nuts off.

/herb

Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

In article <1187282514.127494.153250@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups .com>,
infiniteMPG <57classic@gmail.com> wrote:
#I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
#brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
#needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
#something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
#there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
#or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
#into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
#myself, I am more then willing to take the time.

Replace, bleed and go for the most part...

Make sure you get teves pads if you have teves calipers and akebono
pads if you have akebono calipers. If you have teves calipers, consider
upgrading to akebono calipers. If you upgrade, get new rotors. Take
the teves calipers and put them on your TJ. WJ teves are a upgrade for
the TJ.

Don't chince out on the rotors. The made-in-china-inc junk will warp
and warp and warp. Don't bother with vented or slotted rotors--most
of them are made-in-china-inc junk with holes and slots in them so they
will crack or warp on you that much faster.

If you turn the rotors, you MUST match-mark them so that you can put
them back on exactly as they came off. DC says to use a on-the-car
turning machine... Unless you have a rotor that looks like a record
alblum from hell, you don't need to turn. And if you do, I would just
say screw it and get new rotors.

Use a torque wrench for the bolts.

The manual says the bolts that hold the caliper in place are single-use
but I've never seen a shop or dealer use new ones unless it was a teves
to akebono upgrade (the kit comes with new bolts). YMMV.

It's all metric after you get the lug nuts off.

/herb

Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

Don't forget to check the rotors for irregular wear or ripples. They
may need to be machined to assure that they indeed are not warped.
As far as cross drilled, slotted/grooved and ventilated rotors...
Nothing wrong with them. The aforementioned de-gas and also de glaze
the pads under heavy breaking(ie. emergency breaking ) Vented rotors
also help cool the breaks down. Good when pulling a trailer. With the
exception of an odd ball vehicle, all vehicles these days have
ventilated rotors.

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:41:54 -0000, infiniteMPG <57classic@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
>brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
>needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
>something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
>there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
>or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
>into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
>myself, I am more then willing to take the time.
>
>Any words of wisdom?
>
>Thanks,
>Scott

Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

Don't forget to check the rotors for irregular wear or ripples. They
may need to be machined to assure that they indeed are not warped.
As far as cross drilled, slotted/grooved and ventilated rotors...
Nothing wrong with them. The aforementioned de-gas and also de glaze
the pads under heavy breaking(ie. emergency breaking ) Vented rotors
also help cool the breaks down. Good when pulling a trailer. With the
exception of an odd ball vehicle, all vehicles these days have
ventilated rotors.

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:41:54 -0000, infiniteMPG <57classic@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
>brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
>needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
>something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
>there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
>or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
>into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
>myself, I am more then willing to take the time.
>
>Any words of wisdom?
>
>Thanks,
>Scott

Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

Don't forget to check the rotors for irregular wear or ripples. They
may need to be machined to assure that they indeed are not warped.
As far as cross drilled, slotted/grooved and ventilated rotors...
Nothing wrong with them. The aforementioned de-gas and also de glaze
the pads under heavy breaking(ie. emergency breaking ) Vented rotors
also help cool the breaks down. Good when pulling a trailer. With the
exception of an odd ball vehicle, all vehicles these days have
ventilated rotors.

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:41:54 -0000, infiniteMPG <57classic@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
>brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
>needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
>something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
>there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
>or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
>into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
>myself, I am more then willing to take the time.
>
>Any words of wisdom?
>
>Thanks,
>Scott

Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

Don't forget to check the rotors for irregular wear or ripples. They
may need to be machined to assure that they indeed are not warped.
As far as cross drilled, slotted/grooved and ventilated rotors...
Nothing wrong with them. The aforementioned de-gas and also de glaze
the pads under heavy breaking(ie. emergency breaking ) Vented rotors
also help cool the breaks down. Good when pulling a trailer. With the
exception of an odd ball vehicle, all vehicles these days have
ventilated rotors.

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:41:54 -0000, infiniteMPG <57classic@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
>brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
>needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
>something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
>there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
>or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
>into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
>myself, I am more then willing to take the time.
>
>Any words of wisdom?
>
>Thanks,
>Scott

Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

On Aug 16, 9:47 pm, Socks <sock...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Don't forget to check the rotors for irregular wear or ripples. They
> may need to be machined to assure that they indeed are not warped.
> As far as cross drilled, slotted/grooved and ventilated rotors...
> Nothing wrong with them. The aforementioned de-gas and also de glaze
> the pads under heavy breaking(ie. emergency breaking ) Vented rotors
> also help cool the breaks down. Good when pulling a trailer. With the
> exception of an odd ball vehicle, all vehicles these days have
> ventilated rotors.
>
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:41:54 -0000, infiniteMPG <57clas...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
> >brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
> >needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
> >something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
> >there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
> >or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
> >into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
> >myself, I am more then willing to take the time.
>
> >Any words of wisdom?
>
> >Thanks,
> >Scott- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Scott,

The job is the same, but if you have ABS - watch out: when you go to
push the caliper piston back, lightly attach a set of vise grips over
a rag onto your brake hose and open the bleeder. Don't just push the
fluid from the caliper back through an ABS system, that's just plain
crazy, and you'd be asking for trouble.

Jon

Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

On Aug 16, 9:47 pm, Socks <sock...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Don't forget to check the rotors for irregular wear or ripples. They
> may need to be machined to assure that they indeed are not warped.
> As far as cross drilled, slotted/grooved and ventilated rotors...
> Nothing wrong with them. The aforementioned de-gas and also de glaze
> the pads under heavy breaking(ie. emergency breaking ) Vented rotors
> also help cool the breaks down. Good when pulling a trailer. With the
> exception of an odd ball vehicle, all vehicles these days have
> ventilated rotors.
>
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:41:54 -0000, infiniteMPG <57clas...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
> >brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
> >needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
> >something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
> >there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
> >or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
> >into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
> >myself, I am more then willing to take the time.
>
> >Any words of wisdom?
>
> >Thanks,
> >Scott- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Scott,

The job is the same, but if you have ABS - watch out: when you go to
push the caliper piston back, lightly attach a set of vise grips over
a rag onto your brake hose and open the bleeder. Don't just push the
fluid from the caliper back through an ABS system, that's just plain
crazy, and you'd be asking for trouble.

Jon

Re: Jeep Cherokee '03 Needs Brakes - TOUGH????
 

On Aug 16, 9:47 pm, Socks <sock...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Don't forget to check the rotors for irregular wear or ripples. They
> may need to be machined to assure that they indeed are not warped.
> As far as cross drilled, slotted/grooved and ventilated rotors...
> Nothing wrong with them. The aforementioned de-gas and also de glaze
> the pads under heavy breaking(ie. emergency breaking ) Vented rotors
> also help cool the breaks down. Good when pulling a trailer. With the
> exception of an odd ball vehicle, all vehicles these days have
> ventilated rotors.
>
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:41:54 -0000, infiniteMPG <57clas...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4X4 and it's in need of new
> >brake pads. I used to do all my own work on my vehicles up until you
> >needed a bazillion specialy tools and a $10K computer to replace
> >something. My Jeep needs brakes and I was wondering if anyone knew if
> >there's anything special to consider when doing that on this vehicle
> >or is it the same old replace, bleed and go deal? Don't want to get
> >into anything I can't finish but if it's 1/4 the price to do it
> >myself, I am more then willing to take the time.
>
> >Any words of wisdom?
>
> >Thanks,
> >Scott- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Scott,

The job is the same, but if you have ABS - watch out: when you go to
push the caliper piston back, lightly attach a set of vise grips over
a rag onto your brake hose and open the bleeder. Don't just push the
fluid from the caliper back through an ABS system, that's just plain
crazy, and you'd be asking for trouble.

Jon