jeep brakes
02-14-2005, 01:32 AM
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jeep brakes
I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
difference.
not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
difference.
02-14-2005, 02:04 AM
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Re: jeep brakes
In article <jeKdnQLD48SJ243fRVn-2g@adelphia.com>,
rjh44 <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote:
>I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
>not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
>Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
>standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
>difference.
>
>
Hi
I recently got a '78 CJ-5 Jeeprolet that has similar braking "performance"
The 35" tires on it certainly don't help the braking. I'm in the process of
switching to power brakes. It's a bit complex, but I'm working it out. I got
a power boost/master cylinder from Auto Zone for a later model that appears
as if it'll work, but I'm having a bit of a problem finding the bracket
that goes between the booster and the firewall. I located one online, but
the kind folks selling it want $100.00 for it, which is more than the re-
manufactured power boost/master cylinder cost me. There's a bunch of info
on the net regarding this upgrade, but I've had trouble finding the parts
as cheaply as the websites say. Anyway, check out
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/module...article&sid=80
for an interesting "how-to" install power brakes, and
http://tricountygear.com/steringbrakes.htm
for a nifty little adjustable brake rod that is mentioned in an
article in the March 2005 issue of "Petersen's 4Wheel&OffRoad" which
describes how to change the angle of the brake linkage geometry to
gain extra push into the master cylinder. I'm still in the process of
collecting the parts to do the upgrade, but I'm fairly certain that it
will be worth the trouble and the expense.
Anyway, hope this helps a bit. I've never heard of extra sticky pads.
Doesn't mean that there aren't any.
Claude
rjh44 <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote:
>I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
>not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
>Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
>standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
>difference.
>
>
Hi
I recently got a '78 CJ-5 Jeeprolet that has similar braking "performance"
The 35" tires on it certainly don't help the braking. I'm in the process of
switching to power brakes. It's a bit complex, but I'm working it out. I got
a power boost/master cylinder from Auto Zone for a later model that appears
as if it'll work, but I'm having a bit of a problem finding the bracket
that goes between the booster and the firewall. I located one online, but
the kind folks selling it want $100.00 for it, which is more than the re-
manufactured power boost/master cylinder cost me. There's a bunch of info
on the net regarding this upgrade, but I've had trouble finding the parts
as cheaply as the websites say. Anyway, check out
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/module...article&sid=80
for an interesting "how-to" install power brakes, and
http://tricountygear.com/steringbrakes.htm
for a nifty little adjustable brake rod that is mentioned in an
article in the March 2005 issue of "Petersen's 4Wheel&OffRoad" which
describes how to change the angle of the brake linkage geometry to
gain extra push into the master cylinder. I'm still in the process of
collecting the parts to do the upgrade, but I'm fairly certain that it
will be worth the trouble and the expense.
Anyway, hope this helps a bit. I've never heard of extra sticky pads.
Doesn't mean that there aren't any.
Claude
02-14-2005, 02:04 AM
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Re: jeep brakes
In article <jeKdnQLD48SJ243fRVn-2g@adelphia.com>,
rjh44 <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote:
>I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
>not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
>Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
>standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
>difference.
>
>
Hi
I recently got a '78 CJ-5 Jeeprolet that has similar braking "performance"
The 35" tires on it certainly don't help the braking. I'm in the process of
switching to power brakes. It's a bit complex, but I'm working it out. I got
a power boost/master cylinder from Auto Zone for a later model that appears
as if it'll work, but I'm having a bit of a problem finding the bracket
that goes between the booster and the firewall. I located one online, but
the kind folks selling it want $100.00 for it, which is more than the re-
manufactured power boost/master cylinder cost me. There's a bunch of info
on the net regarding this upgrade, but I've had trouble finding the parts
as cheaply as the websites say. Anyway, check out
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/module...article&sid=80
for an interesting "how-to" install power brakes, and
http://tricountygear.com/steringbrakes.htm
for a nifty little adjustable brake rod that is mentioned in an
article in the March 2005 issue of "Petersen's 4Wheel&OffRoad" which
describes how to change the angle of the brake linkage geometry to
gain extra push into the master cylinder. I'm still in the process of
collecting the parts to do the upgrade, but I'm fairly certain that it
will be worth the trouble and the expense.
Anyway, hope this helps a bit. I've never heard of extra sticky pads.
Doesn't mean that there aren't any.
Claude
rjh44 <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote:
>I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
>not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
>Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
>standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
>difference.
>
>
Hi
I recently got a '78 CJ-5 Jeeprolet that has similar braking "performance"
The 35" tires on it certainly don't help the braking. I'm in the process of
switching to power brakes. It's a bit complex, but I'm working it out. I got
a power boost/master cylinder from Auto Zone for a later model that appears
as if it'll work, but I'm having a bit of a problem finding the bracket
that goes between the booster and the firewall. I located one online, but
the kind folks selling it want $100.00 for it, which is more than the re-
manufactured power boost/master cylinder cost me. There's a bunch of info
on the net regarding this upgrade, but I've had trouble finding the parts
as cheaply as the websites say. Anyway, check out
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/module...article&sid=80
for an interesting "how-to" install power brakes, and
http://tricountygear.com/steringbrakes.htm
for a nifty little adjustable brake rod that is mentioned in an
article in the March 2005 issue of "Petersen's 4Wheel&OffRoad" which
describes how to change the angle of the brake linkage geometry to
gain extra push into the master cylinder. I'm still in the process of
collecting the parts to do the upgrade, but I'm fairly certain that it
will be worth the trouble and the expense.
Anyway, hope this helps a bit. I've never heard of extra sticky pads.
Doesn't mean that there aren't any.
Claude
02-14-2005, 02:04 AM
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Re: jeep brakes
In article <jeKdnQLD48SJ243fRVn-2g@adelphia.com>,
rjh44 <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote:
>I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
>not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
>Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
>standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
>difference.
>
>
Hi
I recently got a '78 CJ-5 Jeeprolet that has similar braking "performance"
The 35" tires on it certainly don't help the braking. I'm in the process of
switching to power brakes. It's a bit complex, but I'm working it out. I got
a power boost/master cylinder from Auto Zone for a later model that appears
as if it'll work, but I'm having a bit of a problem finding the bracket
that goes between the booster and the firewall. I located one online, but
the kind folks selling it want $100.00 for it, which is more than the re-
manufactured power boost/master cylinder cost me. There's a bunch of info
on the net regarding this upgrade, but I've had trouble finding the parts
as cheaply as the websites say. Anyway, check out
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/module...article&sid=80
for an interesting "how-to" install power brakes, and
http://tricountygear.com/steringbrakes.htm
for a nifty little adjustable brake rod that is mentioned in an
article in the March 2005 issue of "Petersen's 4Wheel&OffRoad" which
describes how to change the angle of the brake linkage geometry to
gain extra push into the master cylinder. I'm still in the process of
collecting the parts to do the upgrade, but I'm fairly certain that it
will be worth the trouble and the expense.
Anyway, hope this helps a bit. I've never heard of extra sticky pads.
Doesn't mean that there aren't any.
Claude
rjh44 <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote:
>I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
>not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
>Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
>standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
>difference.
>
>
Hi
I recently got a '78 CJ-5 Jeeprolet that has similar braking "performance"
The 35" tires on it certainly don't help the braking. I'm in the process of
switching to power brakes. It's a bit complex, but I'm working it out. I got
a power boost/master cylinder from Auto Zone for a later model that appears
as if it'll work, but I'm having a bit of a problem finding the bracket
that goes between the booster and the firewall. I located one online, but
the kind folks selling it want $100.00 for it, which is more than the re-
manufactured power boost/master cylinder cost me. There's a bunch of info
on the net regarding this upgrade, but I've had trouble finding the parts
as cheaply as the websites say. Anyway, check out
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/module...article&sid=80
for an interesting "how-to" install power brakes, and
http://tricountygear.com/steringbrakes.htm
for a nifty little adjustable brake rod that is mentioned in an
article in the March 2005 issue of "Petersen's 4Wheel&OffRoad" which
describes how to change the angle of the brake linkage geometry to
gain extra push into the master cylinder. I'm still in the process of
collecting the parts to do the upgrade, but I'm fairly certain that it
will be worth the trouble and the expense.
Anyway, hope this helps a bit. I've never heard of extra sticky pads.
Doesn't mean that there aren't any.
Claude
02-14-2005, 09:36 AM
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Re: jeep brakes
Normally the cheapest pads you can buy are the best for grabbing. They
have the highest friction and wear out the fastest but only take 15
minutes per wheel to change out.
CJ7's have marginal brakes compared to any car. Compared to trucks like
they are, it has decent brakes.
Converting to power will be a 'big' disappointment because the power
brakes do 'not' stop you any faster and the difference in pedal power
needed is almost unnoticeable.
A friend had an 85 standard brakes with all new brakes including master
and I have power with all new including master and in a side to side
compare, the standard brakes out stopped me every time.
He did have 31's to my 33's which makes some difference.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rjh44 wrote:
>
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
have the highest friction and wear out the fastest but only take 15
minutes per wheel to change out.
CJ7's have marginal brakes compared to any car. Compared to trucks like
they are, it has decent brakes.
Converting to power will be a 'big' disappointment because the power
brakes do 'not' stop you any faster and the difference in pedal power
needed is almost unnoticeable.
A friend had an 85 standard brakes with all new brakes including master
and I have power with all new including master and in a side to side
compare, the standard brakes out stopped me every time.
He did have 31's to my 33's which makes some difference.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rjh44 wrote:
>
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
02-14-2005, 09:36 AM
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Re: jeep brakes
Normally the cheapest pads you can buy are the best for grabbing. They
have the highest friction and wear out the fastest but only take 15
minutes per wheel to change out.
CJ7's have marginal brakes compared to any car. Compared to trucks like
they are, it has decent brakes.
Converting to power will be a 'big' disappointment because the power
brakes do 'not' stop you any faster and the difference in pedal power
needed is almost unnoticeable.
A friend had an 85 standard brakes with all new brakes including master
and I have power with all new including master and in a side to side
compare, the standard brakes out stopped me every time.
He did have 31's to my 33's which makes some difference.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rjh44 wrote:
>
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
have the highest friction and wear out the fastest but only take 15
minutes per wheel to change out.
CJ7's have marginal brakes compared to any car. Compared to trucks like
they are, it has decent brakes.
Converting to power will be a 'big' disappointment because the power
brakes do 'not' stop you any faster and the difference in pedal power
needed is almost unnoticeable.
A friend had an 85 standard brakes with all new brakes including master
and I have power with all new including master and in a side to side
compare, the standard brakes out stopped me every time.
He did have 31's to my 33's which makes some difference.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rjh44 wrote:
>
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
02-14-2005, 09:36 AM
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Re: jeep brakes
Normally the cheapest pads you can buy are the best for grabbing. They
have the highest friction and wear out the fastest but only take 15
minutes per wheel to change out.
CJ7's have marginal brakes compared to any car. Compared to trucks like
they are, it has decent brakes.
Converting to power will be a 'big' disappointment because the power
brakes do 'not' stop you any faster and the difference in pedal power
needed is almost unnoticeable.
A friend had an 85 standard brakes with all new brakes including master
and I have power with all new including master and in a side to side
compare, the standard brakes out stopped me every time.
He did have 31's to my 33's which makes some difference.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rjh44 wrote:
>
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
have the highest friction and wear out the fastest but only take 15
minutes per wheel to change out.
CJ7's have marginal brakes compared to any car. Compared to trucks like
they are, it has decent brakes.
Converting to power will be a 'big' disappointment because the power
brakes do 'not' stop you any faster and the difference in pedal power
needed is almost unnoticeable.
A friend had an 85 standard brakes with all new brakes including master
and I have power with all new including master and in a side to side
compare, the standard brakes out stopped me every time.
He did have 31's to my 33's which makes some difference.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rjh44 wrote:
>
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
02-14-2005, 01:23 PM
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Re: jeep brakes
If you have been used to power brakes all your life, then manual brakes will
take some getting used to. It is impossible to troubleshoot your brakes over
the 'net, but if you are convinced there is something wrong, get a test
drive at a brake shop and have a second opinion. The brake system does need
to be serviced on occasion, and there are several things that can make them
ineffective. But, even when they are working perfectly, manual brakes take a
lot of pressure as compared to power brakes.
"rjh44" <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote in message
news:jeKdnQLD48SJ243fRVn-2g@adelphia.com...
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction
than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
>
>
take some getting used to. It is impossible to troubleshoot your brakes over
the 'net, but if you are convinced there is something wrong, get a test
drive at a brake shop and have a second opinion. The brake system does need
to be serviced on occasion, and there are several things that can make them
ineffective. But, even when they are working perfectly, manual brakes take a
lot of pressure as compared to power brakes.
"rjh44" <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote in message
news:jeKdnQLD48SJ243fRVn-2g@adelphia.com...
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction
than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
>
>
02-14-2005, 01:23 PM
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Re: jeep brakes
If you have been used to power brakes all your life, then manual brakes will
take some getting used to. It is impossible to troubleshoot your brakes over
the 'net, but if you are convinced there is something wrong, get a test
drive at a brake shop and have a second opinion. The brake system does need
to be serviced on occasion, and there are several things that can make them
ineffective. But, even when they are working perfectly, manual brakes take a
lot of pressure as compared to power brakes.
"rjh44" <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote in message
news:jeKdnQLD48SJ243fRVn-2g@adelphia.com...
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction
than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
>
>
take some getting used to. It is impossible to troubleshoot your brakes over
the 'net, but if you are convinced there is something wrong, get a test
drive at a brake shop and have a second opinion. The brake system does need
to be serviced on occasion, and there are several things that can make them
ineffective. But, even when they are working perfectly, manual brakes take a
lot of pressure as compared to power brakes.
"rjh44" <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote in message
news:jeKdnQLD48SJ243fRVn-2g@adelphia.com...
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction
than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
>
>
02-14-2005, 01:23 PM
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Re: jeep brakes
If you have been used to power brakes all your life, then manual brakes will
take some getting used to. It is impossible to troubleshoot your brakes over
the 'net, but if you are convinced there is something wrong, get a test
drive at a brake shop and have a second opinion. The brake system does need
to be serviced on occasion, and there are several things that can make them
ineffective. But, even when they are working perfectly, manual brakes take a
lot of pressure as compared to power brakes.
"rjh44" <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote in message
news:jeKdnQLD48SJ243fRVn-2g@adelphia.com...
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction
than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
>
>
take some getting used to. It is impossible to troubleshoot your brakes over
the 'net, but if you are convinced there is something wrong, get a test
drive at a brake shop and have a second opinion. The brake system does need
to be serviced on occasion, and there are several things that can make them
ineffective. But, even when they are working perfectly, manual brakes take a
lot of pressure as compared to power brakes.
"rjh44" <rjh44@adelphia.com> wrote in message
news:jeKdnQLD48SJ243fRVn-2g@adelphia.com...
> I recently bought my first Jeep. A 1986 CJ-7 4 cylinder 4 speed. It does
> not have power brakes and it takes a LOT of pressure to get much braking.
> Does anyone know about brake pads and shoes that are higher in friction
than
> standard? The tires are p235/ 75r15 on 7" wheels if that makes any
> difference.
>
>
