I've got gas
#71
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Re: I've got gas
I like some of the cautions and definitions listed there.
"Should I add supplements to my oil?
No. Modern engine oil already has lots of additives, including detergents,
dispersants, corrosion inhibitors, antioxidants, viscosity-index improvers,
extreme-pressure additives, and 28 other chemicals. Do not add any oil
supplements (i.e. Slick 50, STP, Marvel Mystery Oil, kerosene, diesel fuel,
automatic transmission fluid, rotten bananas, etc) to the oil. Oil
supplements can damage the engine"
What will I do with my rotten bananas now? I can't eat that much banana
bread.
"What is a rebuilt engine?
A rebuilt engine is an engine that has had most of the larger lumps of rust
scraped off with a paint scraper, some of the dirt and salt washed off with
a garden hose, the crack in the cylinder head patched with JB Weld,
everything (including the spark plug leads and flame arrester air intake )
painted any old colour with left-over cans of house paint, the old oil
topped up with a mixture of Marvel Mystery Oil and STP, fitted with lawn
mower spark plugs and 4 foot spark plug wires from an old V8 Chevrolet, a
cheap gate valve installed in the thermostat bypass hose, initially started
with a spray can of starting fluid after sitting outside with a tarp over it
for several years, and advertised as "...completely rebuilt Universal
engine, fresh-water cooled, like new, 2 year warranty, see it running, call
Midnight Marine Supply - pager 999-9999"..."
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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..
"nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:td6dncUv7dwzSN7eRVn-qg@comcast.com...
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed
> below in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum
> engine protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed
> are available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand
> Prix 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not
> available in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
>> Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
>> .
>> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
>>>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
>>>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
>>>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
>>>
>>> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the
>>> plugs cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next
>>> year. the oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not
>>> all that popular due to space restraints.
>>> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
>>>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
>>>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
>>>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
>>>> cylinder liner.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
>>>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
>>>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
>>>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
>>>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
>>>> oiling is a common mod on them.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
>>>> the detergency.
>>>>
>>>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
>>>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
>>>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
>>>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
>>>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
"Should I add supplements to my oil?
No. Modern engine oil already has lots of additives, including detergents,
dispersants, corrosion inhibitors, antioxidants, viscosity-index improvers,
extreme-pressure additives, and 28 other chemicals. Do not add any oil
supplements (i.e. Slick 50, STP, Marvel Mystery Oil, kerosene, diesel fuel,
automatic transmission fluid, rotten bananas, etc) to the oil. Oil
supplements can damage the engine"
What will I do with my rotten bananas now? I can't eat that much banana
bread.
"What is a rebuilt engine?
A rebuilt engine is an engine that has had most of the larger lumps of rust
scraped off with a paint scraper, some of the dirt and salt washed off with
a garden hose, the crack in the cylinder head patched with JB Weld,
everything (including the spark plug leads and flame arrester air intake )
painted any old colour with left-over cans of house paint, the old oil
topped up with a mixture of Marvel Mystery Oil and STP, fitted with lawn
mower spark plugs and 4 foot spark plug wires from an old V8 Chevrolet, a
cheap gate valve installed in the thermostat bypass hose, initially started
with a spray can of starting fluid after sitting outside with a tarp over it
for several years, and advertised as "...completely rebuilt Universal
engine, fresh-water cooled, like new, 2 year warranty, see it running, call
Midnight Marine Supply - pager 999-9999"..."
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:td6dncUv7dwzSN7eRVn-qg@comcast.com...
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed
> below in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum
> engine protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed
> are available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand
> Prix 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not
> available in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
>> Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
>> .
>> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
>>>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
>>>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
>>>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
>>>
>>> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the
>>> plugs cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next
>>> year. the oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not
>>> all that popular due to space restraints.
>>> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
>>>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
>>>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
>>>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
>>>> cylinder liner.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
>>>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
>>>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
>>>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
>>>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
>>>> oiling is a common mod on them.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
>>>> the detergency.
>>>>
>>>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
>>>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
>>>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
>>>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
>>>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#72
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: I've got gas
I like some of the cautions and definitions listed there.
"Should I add supplements to my oil?
No. Modern engine oil already has lots of additives, including detergents,
dispersants, corrosion inhibitors, antioxidants, viscosity-index improvers,
extreme-pressure additives, and 28 other chemicals. Do not add any oil
supplements (i.e. Slick 50, STP, Marvel Mystery Oil, kerosene, diesel fuel,
automatic transmission fluid, rotten bananas, etc) to the oil. Oil
supplements can damage the engine"
What will I do with my rotten bananas now? I can't eat that much banana
bread.
"What is a rebuilt engine?
A rebuilt engine is an engine that has had most of the larger lumps of rust
scraped off with a paint scraper, some of the dirt and salt washed off with
a garden hose, the crack in the cylinder head patched with JB Weld,
everything (including the spark plug leads and flame arrester air intake )
painted any old colour with left-over cans of house paint, the old oil
topped up with a mixture of Marvel Mystery Oil and STP, fitted with lawn
mower spark plugs and 4 foot spark plug wires from an old V8 Chevrolet, a
cheap gate valve installed in the thermostat bypass hose, initially started
with a spray can of starting fluid after sitting outside with a tarp over it
for several years, and advertised as "...completely rebuilt Universal
engine, fresh-water cooled, like new, 2 year warranty, see it running, call
Midnight Marine Supply - pager 999-9999"..."
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:td6dncUv7dwzSN7eRVn-qg@comcast.com...
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed
> below in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum
> engine protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed
> are available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand
> Prix 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not
> available in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
>> Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
>> .
>> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
>>>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
>>>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
>>>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
>>>
>>> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the
>>> plugs cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next
>>> year. the oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not
>>> all that popular due to space restraints.
>>> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
>>>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
>>>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
>>>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
>>>> cylinder liner.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
>>>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
>>>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
>>>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
>>>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
>>>> oiling is a common mod on them.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
>>>> the detergency.
>>>>
>>>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
>>>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
>>>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
>>>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
>>>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
"Should I add supplements to my oil?
No. Modern engine oil already has lots of additives, including detergents,
dispersants, corrosion inhibitors, antioxidants, viscosity-index improvers,
extreme-pressure additives, and 28 other chemicals. Do not add any oil
supplements (i.e. Slick 50, STP, Marvel Mystery Oil, kerosene, diesel fuel,
automatic transmission fluid, rotten bananas, etc) to the oil. Oil
supplements can damage the engine"
What will I do with my rotten bananas now? I can't eat that much banana
bread.
"What is a rebuilt engine?
A rebuilt engine is an engine that has had most of the larger lumps of rust
scraped off with a paint scraper, some of the dirt and salt washed off with
a garden hose, the crack in the cylinder head patched with JB Weld,
everything (including the spark plug leads and flame arrester air intake )
painted any old colour with left-over cans of house paint, the old oil
topped up with a mixture of Marvel Mystery Oil and STP, fitted with lawn
mower spark plugs and 4 foot spark plug wires from an old V8 Chevrolet, a
cheap gate valve installed in the thermostat bypass hose, initially started
with a spray can of starting fluid after sitting outside with a tarp over it
for several years, and advertised as "...completely rebuilt Universal
engine, fresh-water cooled, like new, 2 year warranty, see it running, call
Midnight Marine Supply - pager 999-9999"..."
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:td6dncUv7dwzSN7eRVn-qg@comcast.com...
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed
> below in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum
> engine protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed
> are available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand
> Prix 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not
> available in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
>> Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
>> .
>> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
>>>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
>>>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
>>>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
>>>
>>> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the
>>> plugs cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next
>>> year. the oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not
>>> all that popular due to space restraints.
>>> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
>>>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
>>>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
>>>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
>>>> cylinder liner.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
>>>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
>>>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
>>>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
>>>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
>>>> oiling is a common mod on them.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
>>>> the detergency.
>>>>
>>>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
>>>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
>>>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
>>>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
>>>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#73
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: I've got gas
I like some of the cautions and definitions listed there.
"Should I add supplements to my oil?
No. Modern engine oil already has lots of additives, including detergents,
dispersants, corrosion inhibitors, antioxidants, viscosity-index improvers,
extreme-pressure additives, and 28 other chemicals. Do not add any oil
supplements (i.e. Slick 50, STP, Marvel Mystery Oil, kerosene, diesel fuel,
automatic transmission fluid, rotten bananas, etc) to the oil. Oil
supplements can damage the engine"
What will I do with my rotten bananas now? I can't eat that much banana
bread.
"What is a rebuilt engine?
A rebuilt engine is an engine that has had most of the larger lumps of rust
scraped off with a paint scraper, some of the dirt and salt washed off with
a garden hose, the crack in the cylinder head patched with JB Weld,
everything (including the spark plug leads and flame arrester air intake )
painted any old colour with left-over cans of house paint, the old oil
topped up with a mixture of Marvel Mystery Oil and STP, fitted with lawn
mower spark plugs and 4 foot spark plug wires from an old V8 Chevrolet, a
cheap gate valve installed in the thermostat bypass hose, initially started
with a spray can of starting fluid after sitting outside with a tarp over it
for several years, and advertised as "...completely rebuilt Universal
engine, fresh-water cooled, like new, 2 year warranty, see it running, call
Midnight Marine Supply - pager 999-9999"..."
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:td6dncUv7dwzSN7eRVn-qg@comcast.com...
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed
> below in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum
> engine protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed
> are available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand
> Prix 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not
> available in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
>> Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
>> .
>> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
>>>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
>>>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
>>>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
>>>
>>> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the
>>> plugs cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next
>>> year. the oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not
>>> all that popular due to space restraints.
>>> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
>>>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
>>>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
>>>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
>>>> cylinder liner.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
>>>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
>>>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
>>>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
>>>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
>>>> oiling is a common mod on them.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
>>>> the detergency.
>>>>
>>>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
>>>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
>>>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
>>>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
>>>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
"Should I add supplements to my oil?
No. Modern engine oil already has lots of additives, including detergents,
dispersants, corrosion inhibitors, antioxidants, viscosity-index improvers,
extreme-pressure additives, and 28 other chemicals. Do not add any oil
supplements (i.e. Slick 50, STP, Marvel Mystery Oil, kerosene, diesel fuel,
automatic transmission fluid, rotten bananas, etc) to the oil. Oil
supplements can damage the engine"
What will I do with my rotten bananas now? I can't eat that much banana
bread.
"What is a rebuilt engine?
A rebuilt engine is an engine that has had most of the larger lumps of rust
scraped off with a paint scraper, some of the dirt and salt washed off with
a garden hose, the crack in the cylinder head patched with JB Weld,
everything (including the spark plug leads and flame arrester air intake )
painted any old colour with left-over cans of house paint, the old oil
topped up with a mixture of Marvel Mystery Oil and STP, fitted with lawn
mower spark plugs and 4 foot spark plug wires from an old V8 Chevrolet, a
cheap gate valve installed in the thermostat bypass hose, initially started
with a spray can of starting fluid after sitting outside with a tarp over it
for several years, and advertised as "...completely rebuilt Universal
engine, fresh-water cooled, like new, 2 year warranty, see it running, call
Midnight Marine Supply - pager 999-9999"..."
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:td6dncUv7dwzSN7eRVn-qg@comcast.com...
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed
> below in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum
> engine protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed
> are available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand
> Prix 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not
> available in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
>> Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
>> .
>> "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
>>>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
>>>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
>>>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
>>>
>>> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the
>>> plugs cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next
>>> year. the oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not
>>> all that popular due to space restraints.
>>> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
>>>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
>>>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
>>>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
>>>> cylinder liner.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
>>>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
>>>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
>>>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
>>>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
>>>> oiling is a common mod on them.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
>>>> the detergency.
>>>>
>>>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
>>>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
>>>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
>>>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
>>>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#74
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: I've got gas
I don't think you may find a non-detergent oil anymore, not even
for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
for the filters:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
nunya wrote:
>
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > .
> > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> >>
> >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> >> popular due to space restraints.
> >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> >>> cylinder liner.
> >>>
> >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> >>>
> >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> >>> the detergency.
> >>>
> >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
for the filters:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
nunya wrote:
>
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > .
> > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> >>
> >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> >> popular due to space restraints.
> >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> >>> cylinder liner.
> >>>
> >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> >>>
> >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> >>> the detergency.
> >>>
> >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
#75
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: I've got gas
I don't think you may find a non-detergent oil anymore, not even
for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
for the filters:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
nunya wrote:
>
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > .
> > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> >>
> >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> >> popular due to space restraints.
> >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> >>> cylinder liner.
> >>>
> >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> >>>
> >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> >>> the detergency.
> >>>
> >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
for the filters:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
nunya wrote:
>
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > .
> > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> >>
> >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> >> popular due to space restraints.
> >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> >>> cylinder liner.
> >>>
> >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> >>>
> >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> >>> the detergency.
> >>>
> >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
#76
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: I've got gas
I don't think you may find a non-detergent oil anymore, not even
for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
for the filters:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
nunya wrote:
>
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > .
> > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> >>
> >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> >> popular due to space restraints.
> >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> >>> cylinder liner.
> >>>
> >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> >>>
> >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> >>> the detergency.
> >>>
> >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
for the filters:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
nunya wrote:
>
> According to the owners manual,
>
> 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> non-detergent.
>
> from
> http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
>
> keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
>
> What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
>
> Type:
> non-synthetic
>
> API rating:
> SG or SG equivalent
>
> Viscosity:
> Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
>
> Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
>
> Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> Canada)
> Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
>
> Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
>
> So, YMMV.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > .
> > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> >>
> >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> >> popular due to space restraints.
> >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> >>> cylinder liner.
> >>>
> >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> >>>
> >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> >>> the detergency.
> >>>
> >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
#77
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: I've got gas
Yes, it is still around for motorcycles with wet clutches.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't think you may find a non-detergent oil anymore, not even
> for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
> for the filters:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> nunya wrote:
> >
> > According to the owners manual,
> >
> > 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> > non-detergent.
> >
> > from
> > http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
> >
> > keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
> >
> > What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
> >
> > Type:
> > non-synthetic
> >
> > API rating:
> > SG or SG equivalent
> >
> > Viscosity:
> > Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> > Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
> >
> > Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> > in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> > protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> > available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> > 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
> >
> > Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> > Canada)
> > Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> > Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> > in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> >
> > Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
> >
> > So, YMMV.
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > > .
> > > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> > >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> > >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> > >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> > >>
> > >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> > >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> > >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> > >> popular due to space restraints.
> > >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >>>
> > >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> > >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> > >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> > >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> > >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> > >>> cylinder liner.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> > >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> > >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> > >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> > >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> > >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> > >>>
> > >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> > >>> the detergency.
> > >>>
> > >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> > >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> > >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> > >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> > >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't think you may find a non-detergent oil anymore, not even
> for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
> for the filters:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> nunya wrote:
> >
> > According to the owners manual,
> >
> > 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> > non-detergent.
> >
> > from
> > http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
> >
> > keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
> >
> > What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
> >
> > Type:
> > non-synthetic
> >
> > API rating:
> > SG or SG equivalent
> >
> > Viscosity:
> > Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> > Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
> >
> > Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> > in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> > protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> > available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> > 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
> >
> > Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> > Canada)
> > Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> > Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> > in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> >
> > Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
> >
> > So, YMMV.
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > > .
> > > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> > >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> > >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> > >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> > >>
> > >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> > >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> > >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> > >> popular due to space restraints.
> > >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >>>
> > >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> > >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> > >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> > >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> > >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> > >>> cylinder liner.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> > >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> > >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> > >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> > >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> > >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> > >>>
> > >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> > >>> the detergency.
> > >>>
> > >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> > >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> > >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> > >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> > >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
#78
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: I've got gas
Yes, it is still around for motorcycles with wet clutches.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't think you may find a non-detergent oil anymore, not even
> for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
> for the filters:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> nunya wrote:
> >
> > According to the owners manual,
> >
> > 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> > non-detergent.
> >
> > from
> > http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
> >
> > keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
> >
> > What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
> >
> > Type:
> > non-synthetic
> >
> > API rating:
> > SG or SG equivalent
> >
> > Viscosity:
> > Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> > Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
> >
> > Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> > in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> > protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> > available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> > 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
> >
> > Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> > Canada)
> > Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> > Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> > in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> >
> > Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
> >
> > So, YMMV.
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > > .
> > > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> > >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> > >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> > >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> > >>
> > >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> > >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> > >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> > >> popular due to space restraints.
> > >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >>>
> > >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> > >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> > >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> > >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> > >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> > >>> cylinder liner.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> > >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> > >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> > >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> > >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> > >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> > >>>
> > >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> > >>> the detergency.
> > >>>
> > >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> > >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> > >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> > >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> > >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't think you may find a non-detergent oil anymore, not even
> for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
> for the filters:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> nunya wrote:
> >
> > According to the owners manual,
> >
> > 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> > non-detergent.
> >
> > from
> > http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
> >
> > keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
> >
> > What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
> >
> > Type:
> > non-synthetic
> >
> > API rating:
> > SG or SG equivalent
> >
> > Viscosity:
> > Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> > Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
> >
> > Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> > in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> > protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> > available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> > 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
> >
> > Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> > Canada)
> > Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> > Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> > in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> >
> > Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
> >
> > So, YMMV.
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > > .
> > > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> > >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> > >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> > >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> > >>
> > >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> > >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> > >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> > >> popular due to space restraints.
> > >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >>>
> > >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> > >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> > >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> > >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> > >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> > >>> cylinder liner.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> > >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> > >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> > >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> > >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> > >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> > >>>
> > >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> > >>> the detergency.
> > >>>
> > >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> > >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> > >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> > >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> > >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
#79
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: I've got gas
Yes, it is still around for motorcycles with wet clutches.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't think you may find a non-detergent oil anymore, not even
> for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
> for the filters:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> nunya wrote:
> >
> > According to the owners manual,
> >
> > 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> > non-detergent.
> >
> > from
> > http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
> >
> > keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
> >
> > What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
> >
> > Type:
> > non-synthetic
> >
> > API rating:
> > SG or SG equivalent
> >
> > Viscosity:
> > Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> > Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
> >
> > Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> > in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> > protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> > available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> > 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
> >
> > Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> > Canada)
> > Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> > Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> > in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> >
> > Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
> >
> > So, YMMV.
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > > .
> > > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> > >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> > >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> > >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> > >>
> > >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> > >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> > >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> > >> popular due to space restraints.
> > >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >>>
> > >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> > >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> > >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> > >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> > >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> > >>> cylinder liner.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> > >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> > >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> > >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> > >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> > >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> > >>>
> > >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> > >>> the detergency.
> > >>>
> > >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> > >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> > >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> > >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> > >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't think you may find a non-detergent oil anymore, not even
> for a sewing machine, it's all designed to keep particles in suspension
> for the filters:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> nunya wrote:
> >
> > According to the owners manual,
> >
> > 3 to 5 quarts of SAE 30, OR SAE 10W30. No mention of detergent, or
> > non-detergent.
> >
> > from
> > http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_S..._Questions.htm
> >
> > keep in mind the atomic4 has a wet clutch!
> >
> > What oil should I use in my Atomic Four marine engine?
> >
> > Type:
> > non-synthetic
> >
> > API rating:
> > SG or SG equivalent
> >
> > Viscosity:
> > Average temperature under 10°C / 50°F: SAE 10-40
> > Average temperature over 10°C / 50°F: SAE 20-50
> >
> > Atomic Four Engine Service recommends only the motorcycle oils listed below
> > in order to prevent forward clutch slip while providing maximum engine
> > protection and optimum piston ring break-in. All the oils listed are
> > available in both 10-40 and 20-50 viscosities. We use Castrol Grand Prix
> > 20-50 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil.
> >
> > Castrol Grand Prix 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in
> > Canada)
> > Shell Advance SX4 Motorcycle Oil (available in 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Valvoline 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil (not sold in Canada)
> > Belray EXL Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available in
> > full -size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> > Quaker State 4-Cycle Motorcycle Oil (comes in US quarts only - not available
> > in full-size 1 litre cans in Canada)
> >
> > Notes: Never use ANY oil additives. Do not switch brands. Do not overfill.
> >
> > So, YMMV.
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c2115$4342a38a$d8449845$27429@FUSE.NET...
> > > Yes, but I saw no mention of the recommended engine oil.
> > > .
> > > "nunya" <pereynoldsdfw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:t7OdnZ9aIb9dB9_eRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > >>I have an Atomic4 in my boat, (1976) there is no oil filter at all. that
> > >>being said, it's in a sailboat! less than 500 hrs on the meter. Its a
> > >>30hp flathead motor NOT based on the Continental, or IH's Cub ...
> > >>http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Atomic_4...any_3.html#top
> > >>
> > >> She has given many years of safe, reliable performance. changed the plugs
> > >> cap conds. rotor and coil in 1994, might change the plugs next year. the
> > >> oil filtering mod you speak of is certainly available, but not all that
> > >> popular due to space restraints.
> > >> Change the oil every year and it runs just fine.
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1127968191.789469.120620@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >>>
> > >>> Billy Ray wrote:
> > >>>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
> > >>> to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
> > >>> pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
> > >>> oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
> > >>> cylinder liner.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
> > >>> filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
> > >>> the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
> > >>> the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
> > >>> want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
> > >>> oiling is a common mod on them.
> > >>>
> > >>> It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
> > >>> the detergency.
> > >>>
> > >>> Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
> > >>> for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
> > >>> work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
> > >>> them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
> > >>> those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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Re: I've got gas
Mike Romain wrote:
> Yes, it is still around for motorcycles with wet clutches.
>
>
Aeroshell is still available in a completely nondetergent grade. The
old Chevy Power books GM put out through its dealers recommended
nondetergent Aeroshell for break in of racing engines and AD for racing
use.