I'm with Mike, I think you want it closer to the road so you get an idea of
what life is like where the tires are. The tires can see ice when the temp
is upwards of 37F at the road surface. If the probe is up behind the spare,
then the temp displayed could be upwards of 40F when there can still be ice
on the road.

Ice can form on bridges and in shade if the car thinks it is 37, or below.
Obviously, this gives a margin for error, but the system doesn't respond
quick enough to detect actual conditions for ice, so they set an alarm on my
car that chimes at 37, then comes on and stays on at 32. That is, it lights
a display that then goes out at 37, then lights the display and remains lit
at 32. Both temps sound a chime for a couple of seconds.



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C98DDC.5F17AE2@sympatico.ca...
> The one in our old Volvo was below the front bumper to pick up the road
> temperature. It went red at 32 to let you know to watch for black ice.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jeff. Right now I am running it under the carpet, out the back
>> door
>> and mounting it on the bottom of the 3rd brake light. We will see how
>> that
>> works out. It is in the elements and somewhat protected.
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:vdidndNoI_1l9VTenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@ez2.net...
>> > On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct
>> > cold
>> air
>> > onto the brake rotors.
>> >
>> > All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot
>> > exhaust
>> > system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water
>> > splashing
>> > on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such a
>> spot
>> > ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
>> > news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> > > Hi folks,
>> > > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor
>> that
>> > > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
>> > > temperature
>> > > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want
>> > > to
>> > > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something
>> > > to
>> > > do
>> > > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
>> > >
>> > > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I
>> > > am
>> > > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
>> > > literature
>> > > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame,
>> but
>> > > on
>> > > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get
>> > > away
>> > > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
>> > > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by
>> motor
>> > > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
>> > > Thanks folks,
>> > > Tomes
>> > > 02 TJ
>> > >
>> > >
>> >

 

I'm with Mike, I think you want it closer to the road so you get an idea of
what life is like where the tires are. The tires can see ice when the temp
is upwards of 37F at the road surface. If the probe is up behind the spare,
then the temp displayed could be upwards of 40F when there can still be ice
on the road.

Ice can form on bridges and in shade if the car thinks it is 37, or below.
Obviously, this gives a margin for error, but the system doesn't respond
quick enough to detect actual conditions for ice, so they set an alarm on my
car that chimes at 37, then comes on and stays on at 32. That is, it lights
a display that then goes out at 37, then lights the display and remains lit
at 32. Both temps sound a chime for a couple of seconds.



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C98DDC.5F17AE2@sympatico.ca...
> The one in our old Volvo was below the front bumper to pick up the road
> temperature. It went red at 32 to let you know to watch for black ice.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jeff. Right now I am running it under the carpet, out the back
>> door
>> and mounting it on the bottom of the 3rd brake light. We will see how
>> that
>> works out. It is in the elements and somewhat protected.
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:vdidndNoI_1l9VTenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@ez2.net...
>> > On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct
>> > cold
>> air
>> > onto the brake rotors.
>> >
>> > All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot
>> > exhaust
>> > system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water
>> > splashing
>> > on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such a
>> spot
>> > ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
>> > news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> > > Hi folks,
>> > > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor
>> that
>> > > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
>> > > temperature
>> > > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want
>> > > to
>> > > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something
>> > > to
>> > > do
>> > > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
>> > >
>> > > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I
>> > > am
>> > > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
>> > > literature
>> > > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame,
>> but
>> > > on
>> > > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get
>> > > away
>> > > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
>> > > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by
>> motor
>> > > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
>> > > Thanks folks,
>> > > Tomes
>> > > 02 TJ
>> > >
>> > >
>> >

 

Nice discourse folks on a topic that we have not discussed for a while. For
me, I pretty much know when to look out for icing and where/how it lays and
such, so I am really looking at this as more of a novelty/passenger toy than
a life-critical device. Thanks to all the folks for their thoughts on where
to put this thing. The link that Drifter posted, http://tinyurl.com/bmf2y,
is similar to mine (the wife got the one in JC Whitney), especially the size
of the sensor that I gotta fit through the firewall somehow - that's what we
are dealing with folks. With all this discussion I am leaning back toward
putting it at the front of the TJ and low so it sees leading rather than
trailing air. Insulating it from the metal is another note that I picked up
here, thanks for that, and I will glue a piece of foam between the sensor
and the metal (gluing tips??). The wire is long enough to reach the grill.

Now I just gotta get that half inch wide sensor through the firewall......
Tomes

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1rOdnV8GtM_sdFfenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@ez2.net...
> I'm with Mike, I think you want it closer to the road so you get an idea
of
> what life is like where the tires are. The tires can see ice when the temp
> is upwards of 37F at the road surface. If the probe is up behind the
spare,
> then the temp displayed could be upwards of 40F when there can still be
ice
> on the road.
>
> Ice can form on bridges and in shade if the car thinks it is 37, or below.
> Obviously, this gives a margin for error, but the system doesn't respond
> quick enough to detect actual conditions for ice, so they set an alarm on
my
> car that chimes at 37, then comes on and stays on at 32. That is, it
lights
> a display that then goes out at 37, then lights the display and remains
lit
> at 32. Both temps sound a chime for a couple of seconds.
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C98DDC.5F17AE2@sympatico.ca...
> > The one in our old Volvo was below the front bumper to pick up the road
> > temperature. It went red at 32 to let you know to watch for black ice.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Tomes wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Jeff. Right now I am running it under the carpet, out the back
> >> door
> >> and mounting it on the bottom of the 3rd brake light. We will see how
> >> that
> >> works out. It is in the elements and somewhat protected.
> >> Tomes
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:vdidndNoI_1l9VTenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@ez2.net...
> >> > On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct
> >> > cold
> >> air
> >> > onto the brake rotors.
> >> >
> >> > All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot
> >> > exhaust
> >> > system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water
> >> > splashing
> >> > on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such
a
> >> spot
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> >> > > Hi folks,
> >> > > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature
monitor
> >> that
> >> > > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> >> > > temperature
> >> > > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you
want
> >> > > to
> >> > > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has
something
> >> > > to
> >> > > do
> >> > > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
> >> > >
> >> > > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and
I
> >> > > am
> >> > > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> >> > > literature
> >> > > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door
frame,
> >> but
> >> > > on
> >> > > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get
> >> > > away
> >> > > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black
ice
> >> > > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected
by
> >> motor
> >> > > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> >> > > Thanks folks,
> >> > > Tomes
> >> > > 02 TJ
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
>

 

Nice discourse folks on a topic that we have not discussed for a while. For
me, I pretty much know when to look out for icing and where/how it lays and
such, so I am really looking at this as more of a novelty/passenger toy than
a life-critical device. Thanks to all the folks for their thoughts on where
to put this thing. The link that Drifter posted, http://tinyurl.com/bmf2y,
is similar to mine (the wife got the one in JC Whitney), especially the size
of the sensor that I gotta fit through the firewall somehow - that's what we
are dealing with folks. With all this discussion I am leaning back toward
putting it at the front of the TJ and low so it sees leading rather than
trailing air. Insulating it from the metal is another note that I picked up
here, thanks for that, and I will glue a piece of foam between the sensor
and the metal (gluing tips??). The wire is long enough to reach the grill.

Now I just gotta get that half inch wide sensor through the firewall......
Tomes

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1rOdnV8GtM_sdFfenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@ez2.net...
> I'm with Mike, I think you want it closer to the road so you get an idea
of
> what life is like where the tires are. The tires can see ice when the temp
> is upwards of 37F at the road surface. If the probe is up behind the
spare,
> then the temp displayed could be upwards of 40F when there can still be
ice
> on the road.
>
> Ice can form on bridges and in shade if the car thinks it is 37, or below.
> Obviously, this gives a margin for error, but the system doesn't respond
> quick enough to detect actual conditions for ice, so they set an alarm on
my
> car that chimes at 37, then comes on and stays on at 32. That is, it
lights
> a display that then goes out at 37, then lights the display and remains
lit
> at 32. Both temps sound a chime for a couple of seconds.
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C98DDC.5F17AE2@sympatico.ca...
> > The one in our old Volvo was below the front bumper to pick up the road
> > temperature. It went red at 32 to let you know to watch for black ice.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Tomes wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Jeff. Right now I am running it under the carpet, out the back
> >> door
> >> and mounting it on the bottom of the 3rd brake light. We will see how
> >> that
> >> works out. It is in the elements and somewhat protected.
> >> Tomes
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:vdidndNoI_1l9VTenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@ez2.net...
> >> > On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct
> >> > cold
> >> air
> >> > onto the brake rotors.
> >> >
> >> > All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot
> >> > exhaust
> >> > system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water
> >> > splashing
> >> > on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such
a
> >> spot
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> >> > > Hi folks,
> >> > > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature
monitor
> >> that
> >> > > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> >> > > temperature
> >> > > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you
want
> >> > > to
> >> > > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has
something
> >> > > to
> >> > > do
> >> > > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
> >> > >
> >> > > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and
I
> >> > > am
> >> > > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> >> > > literature
> >> > > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door
frame,
> >> but
> >> > > on
> >> > > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get
> >> > > away
> >> > > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black
ice
> >> > > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected
by
> >> motor
> >> > > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> >> > > Thanks folks,
> >> > > Tomes
> >> > > 02 TJ
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
>

 

Nice discourse folks on a topic that we have not discussed for a while. For
me, I pretty much know when to look out for icing and where/how it lays and
such, so I am really looking at this as more of a novelty/passenger toy than
a life-critical device. Thanks to all the folks for their thoughts on where
to put this thing. The link that Drifter posted, http://tinyurl.com/bmf2y,
is similar to mine (the wife got the one in JC Whitney), especially the size
of the sensor that I gotta fit through the firewall somehow - that's what we
are dealing with folks. With all this discussion I am leaning back toward
putting it at the front of the TJ and low so it sees leading rather than
trailing air. Insulating it from the metal is another note that I picked up
here, thanks for that, and I will glue a piece of foam between the sensor
and the metal (gluing tips??). The wire is long enough to reach the grill.

Now I just gotta get that half inch wide sensor through the firewall......
Tomes

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1rOdnV8GtM_sdFfenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@ez2.net...
> I'm with Mike, I think you want it closer to the road so you get an idea
of
> what life is like where the tires are. The tires can see ice when the temp
> is upwards of 37F at the road surface. If the probe is up behind the
spare,
> then the temp displayed could be upwards of 40F when there can still be
ice
> on the road.
>
> Ice can form on bridges and in shade if the car thinks it is 37, or below.
> Obviously, this gives a margin for error, but the system doesn't respond
> quick enough to detect actual conditions for ice, so they set an alarm on
my
> car that chimes at 37, then comes on and stays on at 32. That is, it
lights
> a display that then goes out at 37, then lights the display and remains
lit
> at 32. Both temps sound a chime for a couple of seconds.
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C98DDC.5F17AE2@sympatico.ca...
> > The one in our old Volvo was below the front bumper to pick up the road
> > temperature. It went red at 32 to let you know to watch for black ice.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Tomes wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Jeff. Right now I am running it under the carpet, out the back
> >> door
> >> and mounting it on the bottom of the 3rd brake light. We will see how
> >> that
> >> works out. It is in the elements and somewhat protected.
> >> Tomes
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:vdidndNoI_1l9VTenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@ez2.net...
> >> > On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct
> >> > cold
> >> air
> >> > onto the brake rotors.
> >> >
> >> > All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot
> >> > exhaust
> >> > system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water
> >> > splashing
> >> > on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such
a
> >> spot
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> >> > > Hi folks,
> >> > > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature
monitor
> >> that
> >> > > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> >> > > temperature
> >> > > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you
want
> >> > > to
> >> > > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has
something
> >> > > to
> >> > > do
> >> > > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
> >> > >
> >> > > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and
I
> >> > > am
> >> > > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> >> > > literature
> >> > > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door
frame,
> >> but
> >> > > on
> >> > > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get
> >> > > away
> >> > > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black
ice
> >> > > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected
by
> >> motor
> >> > > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> >> > > Thanks folks,
> >> > > Tomes
> >> > > 02 TJ
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
>