Intake w/ conical filter
01-04-2007, 06:27 PM
#21
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Re: Intake w/ conical filter
Earle Horton wrote:
> In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> enhancements.
>
> Earle
I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
fine at the moment.
The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
while trying to remove the CCV.
check engine codes were 22 and 54.
Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
temperature sensor
Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
that would cause the code 54?
I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
of all three vehicles.
By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
retry the 4wd.
Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
Thanks guys
> In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> enhancements.
>
> Earle
I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
fine at the moment.
The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
while trying to remove the CCV.
check engine codes were 22 and 54.
Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
temperature sensor
Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
that would cause the code 54?
I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
of all three vehicles.
By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
retry the 4wd.
Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
Thanks guys
01-04-2007, 06:27 PM
#22
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Re: Intake w/ conical filter
Earle Horton wrote:
> In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> enhancements.
>
> Earle
I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
fine at the moment.
The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
while trying to remove the CCV.
check engine codes were 22 and 54.
Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
temperature sensor
Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
that would cause the code 54?
I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
of all three vehicles.
By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
retry the 4wd.
Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
Thanks guys
> In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> enhancements.
>
> Earle
I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
fine at the moment.
The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
while trying to remove the CCV.
check engine codes were 22 and 54.
Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
temperature sensor
Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
that would cause the code 54?
I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
of all three vehicles.
By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
retry the 4wd.
Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
Thanks guys
01-04-2007, 06:30 PM
#23
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Re: Intake w/ conical filter
Oh yeah, the ZJ is a '95. It won't maintain idle most of the time, but
will run fine with a little prodding from the gas pedal.
The Merg wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> > overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> > enhancements.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
> I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
> fine at the moment.
>
> The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
> but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
> while trying to remove the CCV.
> check engine codes were 22 and 54.
> Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
> temperature sensor
> Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
> with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
> The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
> or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
> that would cause the code 54?
>
> I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
> of all three vehicles.
>
> By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
> was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
> the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
> that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
> retry the 4wd.
>
> Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
> things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
>
> Thanks guys
will run fine with a little prodding from the gas pedal.
The Merg wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> > overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> > enhancements.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
> I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
> fine at the moment.
>
> The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
> but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
> while trying to remove the CCV.
> check engine codes were 22 and 54.
> Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
> temperature sensor
> Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
> with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
> The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
> or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
> that would cause the code 54?
>
> I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
> of all three vehicles.
>
> By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
> was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
> the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
> that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
> retry the 4wd.
>
> Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
> things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
>
> Thanks guys
01-04-2007, 06:30 PM
#24
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Re: Intake w/ conical filter
Oh yeah, the ZJ is a '95. It won't maintain idle most of the time, but
will run fine with a little prodding from the gas pedal.
The Merg wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> > overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> > enhancements.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
> I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
> fine at the moment.
>
> The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
> but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
> while trying to remove the CCV.
> check engine codes were 22 and 54.
> Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
> temperature sensor
> Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
> with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
> The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
> or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
> that would cause the code 54?
>
> I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
> of all three vehicles.
>
> By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
> was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
> the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
> that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
> retry the 4wd.
>
> Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
> things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
>
> Thanks guys
will run fine with a little prodding from the gas pedal.
The Merg wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> > overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> > enhancements.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
> I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
> fine at the moment.
>
> The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
> but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
> while trying to remove the CCV.
> check engine codes were 22 and 54.
> Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
> temperature sensor
> Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
> with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
> The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
> or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
> that would cause the code 54?
>
> I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
> of all three vehicles.
>
> By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
> was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
> the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
> that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
> retry the 4wd.
>
> Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
> things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
>
> Thanks guys
01-04-2007, 06:30 PM
#25
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Re: Intake w/ conical filter
Oh yeah, the ZJ is a '95. It won't maintain idle most of the time, but
will run fine with a little prodding from the gas pedal.
The Merg wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> > overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> > enhancements.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
> I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
> fine at the moment.
>
> The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
> but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
> while trying to remove the CCV.
> check engine codes were 22 and 54.
> Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
> temperature sensor
> Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
> with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
> The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
> or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
> that would cause the code 54?
>
> I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
> of all three vehicles.
>
> By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
> was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
> the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
> that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
> retry the 4wd.
>
> Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
> things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
>
> Thanks guys
will run fine with a little prodding from the gas pedal.
The Merg wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> > overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> > enhancements.
> >
> > Earle
>
>
> I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
> fine at the moment.
>
> The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
> but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
> while trying to remove the CCV.
> check engine codes were 22 and 54.
> Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
> temperature sensor
> Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
> with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
> The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
> or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
> that would cause the code 54?
>
> I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
> of all three vehicles.
>
> By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
> was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
> the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
> that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
> retry the 4wd.
>
> Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
> things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
>
> Thanks guys
01-04-2007, 06:51 PM
#26
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Re: Intake w/ conical filter
I'm not saying yay or nay to the modification, but there are other conical
filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled
filters work better than the K&N oiled filters.
Chris
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
>> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
>> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
>> engine until the engine warms up.
>>
>> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>>
>> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
>> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
>> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
>> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
>> engine.
>>
>> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
>> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
>> water intake.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> > compartment space.
>> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> > filter placement?
>> >
>> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> > before jumping into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
>
filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled
filters work better than the K&N oiled filters.
Chris
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
>> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
>> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
>> engine until the engine warms up.
>>
>> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>>
>> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
>> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
>> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
>> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
>> engine.
>>
>> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
>> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
>> water intake.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> > compartment space.
>> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> > filter placement?
>> >
>> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> > before jumping into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
>
01-04-2007, 06:51 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Intake w/ conical filter
I'm not saying yay or nay to the modification, but there are other conical
filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled
filters work better than the K&N oiled filters.
Chris
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
>> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
>> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
>> engine until the engine warms up.
>>
>> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>>
>> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
>> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
>> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
>> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
>> engine.
>>
>> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
>> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
>> water intake.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> > compartment space.
>> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> > filter placement?
>> >
>> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> > before jumping into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
>
filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled
filters work better than the K&N oiled filters.
Chris
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
>> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
>> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
>> engine until the engine warms up.
>>
>> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>>
>> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
>> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
>> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
>> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
>> engine.
>>
>> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
>> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
>> water intake.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> > compartment space.
>> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> > filter placement?
>> >
>> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> > before jumping into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
>
01-04-2007, 06:51 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Intake w/ conical filter
I'm not saying yay or nay to the modification, but there are other conical
filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled
filters work better than the K&N oiled filters.
Chris
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
>> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
>> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
>> engine until the engine warms up.
>>
>> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>>
>> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
>> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
>> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
>> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
>> engine.
>>
>> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
>> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
>> water intake.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> > compartment space.
>> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> > filter placement?
>> >
>> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> > before jumping into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
>
filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled
filters work better than the K&N oiled filters.
Chris
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
>> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
>> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
>> engine until the engine warms up.
>>
>> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>>
>> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
>> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
>> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
>> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
>> engine.
>>
>> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
>> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
>> water intake.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> > compartment space.
>> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> > filter placement?
>> >
>> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> > before jumping into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
>
01-04-2007, 08:52 PM
#29
Guest
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Re: Intake w/ conical filter
Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>>
>> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> compartment space.
>> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> filter placement?
>>
>> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> before jumping into this?
>>
>> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>>
>> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> compartment space.
>> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> filter placement?
>>
>> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> before jumping into this?
>>
>> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
01-04-2007, 08:52 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Intake w/ conical filter
Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>>
>> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> compartment space.
>> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> filter placement?
>>
>> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> before jumping into this?
>>
>> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>>
>> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> compartment space.
>> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> filter placement?
>>
>> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> before jumping into this?
>>
>> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always