Maybe that's the problem. I am using their air. Figured it might be ok
in my AMC Jeep, guess not....

Mike

billy ray wrote:
>
> Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute doesn't
> meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
> > Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
> > the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
> > to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
> > rest of the year.
> >
> > They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
> > air changed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >>
> >> I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
> >> Where do you get it?
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
> >> > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
> >> >
> >> > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
> >> > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still under
> >> > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
> >> >
> >> > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
> >> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >>
> >> >>FrankW wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
> >> >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
> >> >>>At a very high price too.
> >> >>>What about this purging method?

 

Maybe that's the problem. I am using their air. Figured it might be ok
in my AMC Jeep, guess not....

Mike

billy ray wrote:
>
> Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute doesn't
> meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
> > Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
> > the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
> > to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
> > rest of the year.
> >
> > They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
> > air changed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >>
> >> I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
> >> Where do you get it?
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
> >> > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
> >> >
> >> > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
> >> > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still under
> >> > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
> >> >
> >> > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
> >> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >>
> >> >>FrankW wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
> >> >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
> >> >>>At a very high price too.
> >> >>>What about this purging method?

 

I would even buy that gold infused blinker fluid if I thought it would
help keep the old air in those damn aluminum rims...

Mike

"J. Sprauer" wrote:
>
> while yer at it change the blinker fluid
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
> > Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
> > the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
> > to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
> > rest of the year.
> >
> > They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
> > air changed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> > >
> > > I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
> > > Where do you get it?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
> > > > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
> > > >
> > > > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
> > > > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still under
> > > > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
> > > >
> > > > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
> > > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >>
> > > >>FrankW wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
> > > >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
> > > >>>At a very high price too.
> > > >>>What about this purging method?

 

I would even buy that gold infused blinker fluid if I thought it would
help keep the old air in those damn aluminum rims...

Mike

"J. Sprauer" wrote:
>
> while yer at it change the blinker fluid
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
> > Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
> > the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
> > to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
> > rest of the year.
> >
> > They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
> > air changed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> > >
> > > I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
> > > Where do you get it?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
> > > > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
> > > >
> > > > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
> > > > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still under
> > > > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
> > > >
> > > > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
> > > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >>
> > > >>FrankW wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
> > > >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
> > > >>>At a very high price too.
> > > >>>What about this purging method?

 

I would even buy that gold infused blinker fluid if I thought it would
help keep the old air in those damn aluminum rims...

Mike

"J. Sprauer" wrote:
>
> while yer at it change the blinker fluid
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
> > Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
> > the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
> > to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
> > rest of the year.
> >
> > They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
> > air changed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> > >
> > > I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
> > > Where do you get it?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
> > > > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
> > > >
> > > > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
> > > > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still under
> > > > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
> > > >
> > > > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
> > > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >>
> > > >>FrankW wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
> > > >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
> > > >>>At a very high price too.
> > > >>>What about this purging method?

 

That's probably the problem all right. People think their older Jeeps are
okay with the older technology air but it is the reaction between newer tire
components and the composition of the old technology air.

The problem was so bad in some tires that most manufacturers had to stop
manufacturing them due to persistent leaking that could not be addressed.
That was in the size 33 x 9.5-15



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4399BAED.529C3598@sympatico.ca...
> Maybe that's the problem. I am using their air. Figured it might be ok
> in my AMC Jeep, guess not....
>
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute doesn't
>> meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>> > Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
>> > the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
>> > to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
>> > rest of the year.
>> >
>> > They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>> > air changed.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > FrankW wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>> >> Where do you get it?
>> >>
>> >> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>> >> > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>> >> >
>> >> > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>> >> > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>> >> > under
>> >> > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >> >
>> >> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>> >> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >>FrankW wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>> >> >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>> >> >>>At a very high price too.
>> >> >>>What about this purging method?

 

That's probably the problem all right. People think their older Jeeps are
okay with the older technology air but it is the reaction between newer tire
components and the composition of the old technology air.

The problem was so bad in some tires that most manufacturers had to stop
manufacturing them due to persistent leaking that could not be addressed.
That was in the size 33 x 9.5-15



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4399BAED.529C3598@sympatico.ca...
> Maybe that's the problem. I am using their air. Figured it might be ok
> in my AMC Jeep, guess not....
>
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute doesn't
>> meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>> > Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
>> > the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
>> > to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
>> > rest of the year.
>> >
>> > They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>> > air changed.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > FrankW wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>> >> Where do you get it?
>> >>
>> >> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>> >> > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>> >> >
>> >> > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>> >> > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>> >> > under
>> >> > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >> >
>> >> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>> >> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >>FrankW wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>> >> >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>> >> >>>At a very high price too.
>> >> >>>What about this purging method?

 

That's probably the problem all right. People think their older Jeeps are
okay with the older technology air but it is the reaction between newer tire
components and the composition of the old technology air.

The problem was so bad in some tires that most manufacturers had to stop
manufacturing them due to persistent leaking that could not be addressed.
That was in the size 33 x 9.5-15



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4399BAED.529C3598@sympatico.ca...
> Maybe that's the problem. I am using their air. Figured it might be ok
> in my AMC Jeep, guess not....
>
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute doesn't
>> meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>> > Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
>> > the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
>> > to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
>> > rest of the year.
>> >
>> > They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>> > air changed.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > FrankW wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>> >> Where do you get it?
>> >>
>> >> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>> >> > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>> >> >
>> >> > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>> >> > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>> >> > under
>> >> > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >> >
>> >> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>> >> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >>FrankW wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>> >> >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>> >> >>>At a very high price too.
>> >> >>>What about this purging method?

 

Well, shop air will get you 80% of the way to pure nitrogen - ambient
air is normally 78-80% nitrogen <g>.

I had one of those tires a few years back. Held air perfectly until
the really cold night then it would go flat in a couple of hours.
Air it up and it would then hold fine until the next time the temp
changed by 50-60 dregrees within 24 hours (really warm day followed by
a front and unusual cold). Never did figure out what was causing it
but the problem went away when I finally replaced the tire. I was
leaning toward a teenage son as trhe cause...

On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 14:44:38 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
> the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
> to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
> rest of the year.
>
> They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
> air changed.
>
> Mike
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
> > Where do you get it?
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
> > > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
> > >
> > > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
> > > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still under
> > > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
> > >
> > > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>
> > >>FrankW wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
> > >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
> > >>>At a very high price too.
> > >>>What about this purging method?


--
Will Honea

 

Well, shop air will get you 80% of the way to pure nitrogen - ambient
air is normally 78-80% nitrogen <g>.

I had one of those tires a few years back. Held air perfectly until
the really cold night then it would go flat in a couple of hours.
Air it up and it would then hold fine until the next time the temp
changed by 50-60 dregrees within 24 hours (really warm day followed by
a front and unusual cold). Never did figure out what was causing it
but the problem went away when I finally replaced the tire. I was
leaning toward a teenage son as trhe cause...

On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 14:44:38 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or until
> the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop has
> to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for the
> rest of the year.
>
> They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
> air changed.
>
> Mike
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
> > Where do you get it?
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
> > > change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
> > >
> > > Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
> > > change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still under
> > > warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
> > >
> > > Mike (Who isn't kidding)
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>
> > >>FrankW wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>My local Dealer suggests I should
> > >>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
> > >>>At a very high price too.
> > >>>What about this purging method?


--
Will Honea