On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:41:31 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>> IIRC they have an aluminium Dana 44 axle which won't survive a
>> floor jack under the diff housing
>
>That's not a problem for me, I'm no longer able to do any of my own
>work so it's up to the Jeep dealer to fix any damage he/she/it does
>but that's a good thing to know if I have to do an emergency repair,
>thanks!


GIve the differentails close proximity to road and that this is kinda
a off road vehicle, I question the wisdom of saving a few pounds of
weight with a aluminum rear axle housing.
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:41:31 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>> IIRC they have an aluminium Dana 44 axle which won't survive a
>> floor jack under the diff housing
>
>That's not a problem for me, I'm no longer able to do any of my own
>work so it's up to the Jeep dealer to fix any damage he/she/it does
>but that's a good thing to know if I have to do an emergency repair,
>thanks!


GIve the differentails close proximity to road and that this is kinda
a off road vehicle, I question the wisdom of saving a few pounds of
weight with a aluminum rear axle housing.
-----------------
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:41:31 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>> IIRC they have an aluminium Dana 44 axle which won't survive a
>> floor jack under the diff housing
>
>That's not a problem for me, I'm no longer able to do any of my own
>work so it's up to the Jeep dealer to fix any damage he/she/it does
>but that's a good thing to know if I have to do an emergency repair,
>thanks!


GIve the differentails close proximity to road and that this is kinda
a off road vehicle, I question the wisdom of saving a few pounds of
weight with a aluminum rear axle housing.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

 

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:47:39 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>
>I'm thinking about replacing my 1993 GC Limited with a later model.
>
>Looking at prices, I can possibly afford a 2005 or even stretch to a
>2006 but the 1999 to 2004s are MUCH more in my price range.
>
>Are there any major flaws in the two models? What should I look out
>for?
>
>And finally, is the 2005 and later worth the difference in price if I
>found a super clean 2004 and a super clean 2005 with equal mileage?
>
>BTW, I'm limiting my search to the 4.7 V8 in a GC Limited.

Hey.
How's it going?

I just bought a 2006 Laredo with very low mileage.
I drove a few and noticed a huge difference in handling between the
99-04 and the 05 and later models.

Mine has the 4.7 and so far, just a few days, I am very happy with it.

The entire front end was re-engineered for 05 and it actually handles
like you would expect a modern vehicle to handle. No wandering, no
tracking grooves, tight cornering.
The seats seem much firmer and more supportive as well. The head rest
is actually in a location where you can use it too.

After driving 3 05/06 models and a couple of older ones I stopped
looking at the older ones altogether even though I preferred the
styling of the 99-04s

An 05 should also be elligible for an extended warranty if you get one
under 36k miles.
--
Bob Mann

--- is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any

 

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:47:39 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>
>I'm thinking about replacing my 1993 GC Limited with a later model.
>
>Looking at prices, I can possibly afford a 2005 or even stretch to a
>2006 but the 1999 to 2004s are MUCH more in my price range.
>
>Are there any major flaws in the two models? What should I look out
>for?
>
>And finally, is the 2005 and later worth the difference in price if I
>found a super clean 2004 and a super clean 2005 with equal mileage?
>
>BTW, I'm limiting my search to the 4.7 V8 in a GC Limited.

Hey.
How's it going?

I just bought a 2006 Laredo with very low mileage.
I drove a few and noticed a huge difference in handling between the
99-04 and the 05 and later models.

Mine has the 4.7 and so far, just a few days, I am very happy with it.

The entire front end was re-engineered for 05 and it actually handles
like you would expect a modern vehicle to handle. No wandering, no
tracking grooves, tight cornering.
The seats seem much firmer and more supportive as well. The head rest
is actually in a location where you can use it too.

After driving 3 05/06 models and a couple of older ones I stopped
looking at the older ones altogether even though I preferred the
styling of the 99-04s

An 05 should also be elligible for an extended warranty if you get one
under 36k miles.
--
Bob Mann

--- is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any

 

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:47:39 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>
>I'm thinking about replacing my 1993 GC Limited with a later model.
>
>Looking at prices, I can possibly afford a 2005 or even stretch to a
>2006 but the 1999 to 2004s are MUCH more in my price range.
>
>Are there any major flaws in the two models? What should I look out
>for?
>
>And finally, is the 2005 and later worth the difference in price if I
>found a super clean 2004 and a super clean 2005 with equal mileage?
>
>BTW, I'm limiting my search to the 4.7 V8 in a GC Limited.

Hey.
How's it going?

I just bought a 2006 Laredo with very low mileage.
I drove a few and noticed a huge difference in handling between the
99-04 and the 05 and later models.

Mine has the 4.7 and so far, just a few days, I am very happy with it.

The entire front end was re-engineered for 05 and it actually handles
like you would expect a modern vehicle to handle. No wandering, no
tracking grooves, tight cornering.
The seats seem much firmer and more supportive as well. The head rest
is actually in a location where you can use it too.

After driving 3 05/06 models and a couple of older ones I stopped
looking at the older ones altogether even though I preferred the
styling of the 99-04s

An 05 should also be elligible for an extended warranty if you get one
under 36k miles.
--
Bob Mann

--- is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any

 

Bob Mann <Bobo@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:47:39 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
> wrote:

>>BTW, I'm limiting my search to the 4.7 V8 in a GC Limited.
>
> Hey.
> How's it going?

It's not, I still can't stand the pain of opening my wallet. It's a
MAJOR decision, I'm putting around 1,000 miles/year or less on my 1993,
it's in VERY good condition and has just under 88,000 miles now. I'm
using the '93 primarily as a vehicle to haul my scooter now, trips to
Costco, Walmart SuperCenter, the zoo, etc. Place too big for me to
walk around. I can still walk some, just not more than maybe 1/2 a
block.

The main reason I have to get a later model is a desire for adjustable
lumbar support which I really need. I also think moving the spare from
the side as in my '93 might give me room to put a scooter inside w/o
having to use the lift on the back.

Also, I really LIKE the newer ones!

> I just bought a 2006 Laredo with very low mileage.
> I drove a few and noticed a huge difference in handling between
> the 99-04 and the 05 and later models.

Good to know!.

> Mine has the 4.7 and so far, just a few days, I am very happy with
> it.

It has more power and better fuel economy. My 5.2 is in bad need of
new plugs, wires, throttle body cleaning, etc. to restore engine
performance. IF I decide to keep it, I'll have to have that done and
it'll cost but I'm no longer able to do the work myself.

> The entire front end was re-engineered for 05 and it actually
> handles like you would expect a modern vehicle to handle. No
> wandering, no tracking grooves, tight cornering.
> The seats seem much firmer and more supportive as well. The head
> rest is actually in a location where you can use it too.

Good information, I've only driven one of the newer ones and only once
around the block with a salesman telling me how the vehicle was
stickered at $45,000 but with my trade in I could get it for only
$44,999.99 or something like that....

> After driving 3 05/06 models and a couple of older ones I stopped
> looking at the older ones altogether even though I preferred the
> styling of the 99-04s

Agreed, the new body style is UGLY!

> An 05 should also be eligible for an extended warranty if you get
> one under 36k miles.

Actually, any used vehicle under 100,000 miles is eligible for some
extended warranty if you go to sources other than factory but I much
prefer the factory one, of course.



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Bob Mann <Bobo@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:47:39 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
> wrote:

>>BTW, I'm limiting my search to the 4.7 V8 in a GC Limited.
>
> Hey.
> How's it going?

It's not, I still can't stand the pain of opening my wallet. It's a
MAJOR decision, I'm putting around 1,000 miles/year or less on my 1993,
it's in VERY good condition and has just under 88,000 miles now. I'm
using the '93 primarily as a vehicle to haul my scooter now, trips to
Costco, Walmart SuperCenter, the zoo, etc. Place too big for me to
walk around. I can still walk some, just not more than maybe 1/2 a
block.

The main reason I have to get a later model is a desire for adjustable
lumbar support which I really need. I also think moving the spare from
the side as in my '93 might give me room to put a scooter inside w/o
having to use the lift on the back.

Also, I really LIKE the newer ones!

> I just bought a 2006 Laredo with very low mileage.
> I drove a few and noticed a huge difference in handling between
> the 99-04 and the 05 and later models.

Good to know!.

> Mine has the 4.7 and so far, just a few days, I am very happy with
> it.

It has more power and better fuel economy. My 5.2 is in bad need of
new plugs, wires, throttle body cleaning, etc. to restore engine
performance. IF I decide to keep it, I'll have to have that done and
it'll cost but I'm no longer able to do the work myself.

> The entire front end was re-engineered for 05 and it actually
> handles like you would expect a modern vehicle to handle. No
> wandering, no tracking grooves, tight cornering.
> The seats seem much firmer and more supportive as well. The head
> rest is actually in a location where you can use it too.

Good information, I've only driven one of the newer ones and only once
around the block with a salesman telling me how the vehicle was
stickered at $45,000 but with my trade in I could get it for only
$44,999.99 or something like that....

> After driving 3 05/06 models and a couple of older ones I stopped
> looking at the older ones altogether even though I preferred the
> styling of the 99-04s

Agreed, the new body style is UGLY!

> An 05 should also be eligible for an extended warranty if you get
> one under 36k miles.

Actually, any used vehicle under 100,000 miles is eligible for some
extended warranty if you go to sources other than factory but I much
prefer the factory one, of course.



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Bob Mann <Bobo@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:47:39 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
> wrote:

>>BTW, I'm limiting my search to the 4.7 V8 in a GC Limited.
>
> Hey.
> How's it going?

It's not, I still can't stand the pain of opening my wallet. It's a
MAJOR decision, I'm putting around 1,000 miles/year or less on my 1993,
it's in VERY good condition and has just under 88,000 miles now. I'm
using the '93 primarily as a vehicle to haul my scooter now, trips to
Costco, Walmart SuperCenter, the zoo, etc. Place too big for me to
walk around. I can still walk some, just not more than maybe 1/2 a
block.

The main reason I have to get a later model is a desire for adjustable
lumbar support which I really need. I also think moving the spare from
the side as in my '93 might give me room to put a scooter inside w/o
having to use the lift on the back.

Also, I really LIKE the newer ones!

> I just bought a 2006 Laredo with very low mileage.
> I drove a few and noticed a huge difference in handling between
> the 99-04 and the 05 and later models.

Good to know!.

> Mine has the 4.7 and so far, just a few days, I am very happy with
> it.

It has more power and better fuel economy. My 5.2 is in bad need of
new plugs, wires, throttle body cleaning, etc. to restore engine
performance. IF I decide to keep it, I'll have to have that done and
it'll cost but I'm no longer able to do the work myself.

> The entire front end was re-engineered for 05 and it actually
> handles like you would expect a modern vehicle to handle. No
> wandering, no tracking grooves, tight cornering.
> The seats seem much firmer and more supportive as well. The head
> rest is actually in a location where you can use it too.

Good information, I've only driven one of the newer ones and only once
around the block with a salesman telling me how the vehicle was
stickered at $45,000 but with my trade in I could get it for only
$44,999.99 or something like that....

> After driving 3 05/06 models and a couple of older ones I stopped
> looking at the older ones altogether even though I preferred the
> styling of the 99-04s

Agreed, the new body style is UGLY!

> An 05 should also be eligible for an extended warranty if you get
> one under 36k miles.

Actually, any used vehicle under 100,000 miles is eligible for some
extended warranty if you go to sources other than factory but I much
prefer the factory one, of course.



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DougW wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>> I'm thinking about replacing my 1993 GC Limited with a later model.
>>
>> Looking at prices, I can possibly afford a 2005 or even stretch to
>> a
>> 2006 but the 1999 to 2004s are MUCH more in my price range.
>>
>> Are there any major flaws in the two models? What should I look
>> out
>> for?
>>
>> And finally, is the 2005 and later worth the difference in price if
>> I
>> found a super clean 2004 and a super clean 2005 with equal mileage?
>>
>> BTW, I'm limiting my search to the 4.7 V8 in a GC Limited.
>
> 2005 gave the ZJ four wheel disc brakes and a very impoved
> quadratrac
> transfer case (low lock rather than limited slip). Apart from that
> you also got a better OBD system.

2005? Are you sure you don't mean 1995?

> All depends on what they are loaded with. I don't recall any big
> issues one way or the other. Apart from problems with the rear
> flipper glass and the defrosting grid getting corroded.

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