Imogene Pass Fatalities.
08-10-2004, 05:49 PM
#21
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Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
Sorry, I thought you were writing of, Allen and Sue Huntington.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident has
> occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids in
> a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to 13,000
> ft at the pass.)
>
> The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused it
> to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> investigation is still underway.
>
> We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan mountain
> trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these are
> the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
>
> Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers. However,
> with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we fear
> these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be doubly
> cautious.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident has
> occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids in
> a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to 13,000
> ft at the pass.)
>
> The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused it
> to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> investigation is still underway.
>
> We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan mountain
> trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these are
> the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
>
> Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers. However,
> with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we fear
> these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be doubly
> cautious.
08-10-2004, 06:53 PM
#22
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Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
You're absolutely right, I have no idea how anyone could wheel those roads
unbelted, unreal. I use the term "experienced" based upon press reports. Who
knows what that means to those who made the statements.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:411921BA.85161EB0@sympatico.ca...
> I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> one sentence.....
>
> Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> dangerous our hobby really is.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.
unbelted, unreal. I use the term "experienced" based upon press reports. Who
knows what that means to those who made the statements.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:411921BA.85161EB0@sympatico.ca...
> I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> one sentence.....
>
> Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> dangerous our hobby really is.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.
08-10-2004, 06:53 PM
#23
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Posts: n/a
Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
You're absolutely right, I have no idea how anyone could wheel those roads
unbelted, unreal. I use the term "experienced" based upon press reports. Who
knows what that means to those who made the statements.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:411921BA.85161EB0@sympatico.ca...
> I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> one sentence.....
>
> Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> dangerous our hobby really is.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.
unbelted, unreal. I use the term "experienced" based upon press reports. Who
knows what that means to those who made the statements.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:411921BA.85161EB0@sympatico.ca...
> I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> one sentence.....
>
> Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> dangerous our hobby really is.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.
08-10-2004, 06:53 PM
#24
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Posts: n/a
Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
You're absolutely right, I have no idea how anyone could wheel those roads
unbelted, unreal. I use the term "experienced" based upon press reports. Who
knows what that means to those who made the statements.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:411921BA.85161EB0@sympatico.ca...
> I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> one sentence.....
>
> Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> dangerous our hobby really is.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.
unbelted, unreal. I use the term "experienced" based upon press reports. Who
knows what that means to those who made the statements.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:411921BA.85161EB0@sympatico.ca...
> I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> one sentence.....
>
> Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> dangerous our hobby really is.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.
08-10-2004, 06:53 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
You're absolutely right, I have no idea how anyone could wheel those roads
unbelted, unreal. I use the term "experienced" based upon press reports. Who
knows what that means to those who made the statements.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:411921BA.85161EB0@sympatico.ca...
> I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> one sentence.....
>
> Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> dangerous our hobby really is.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.
unbelted, unreal. I use the term "experienced" based upon press reports. Who
knows what that means to those who made the statements.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:411921BA.85161EB0@sympatico.ca...
> I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> one sentence.....
>
> Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> dangerous our hobby really is.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.
08-10-2004, 06:54 PM
#26
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Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
All four were thrown from the vehicle, it's quite remarkeable the 2 kids
survived.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41193074.8CD25FA1@sympatico.ca...
> If you are dropping that distance, you are in big ----, belt or no belt,
> but 2 did survive, so it really make me wonder what the results would
> have been if everyone was belted in.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sticks in my craw, too. This couple was part of a club, be it
> > on the prairie in Nebraska, but they have four years under their belts,
> > (pun) so they were jumping for their lives from an out of control TJ, or
> > this is a murder cover-up, and to look for someone that stands to gain
> > from their deaths, a business partner?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> > > one sentence.....
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> > > dangerous our hobby really is.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal
accident has
> > > > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two
kids in
> > > > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > > > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs
to 13,000
> > > > ft at the pass.)
> > > >
> > > > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and
another
> > > > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The
paper
> > > > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another
vehicle
> > > > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that
caused it
> > > > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > > > investigation is still underway.
> > > >
> > > > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > > > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month,
these are
> > > > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > > > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs
we fear
> > > > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > > > cautious.
survived.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41193074.8CD25FA1@sympatico.ca...
> If you are dropping that distance, you are in big ----, belt or no belt,
> but 2 did survive, so it really make me wonder what the results would
> have been if everyone was belted in.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sticks in my craw, too. This couple was part of a club, be it
> > on the prairie in Nebraska, but they have four years under their belts,
> > (pun) so they were jumping for their lives from an out of control TJ, or
> > this is a murder cover-up, and to look for someone that stands to gain
> > from their deaths, a business partner?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> > > one sentence.....
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> > > dangerous our hobby really is.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal
accident has
> > > > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two
kids in
> > > > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > > > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs
to 13,000
> > > > ft at the pass.)
> > > >
> > > > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and
another
> > > > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The
paper
> > > > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another
vehicle
> > > > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that
caused it
> > > > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > > > investigation is still underway.
> > > >
> > > > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > > > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month,
these are
> > > > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > > > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs
we fear
> > > > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > > > cautious.
08-10-2004, 06:54 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
All four were thrown from the vehicle, it's quite remarkeable the 2 kids
survived.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41193074.8CD25FA1@sympatico.ca...
> If you are dropping that distance, you are in big ----, belt or no belt,
> but 2 did survive, so it really make me wonder what the results would
> have been if everyone was belted in.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sticks in my craw, too. This couple was part of a club, be it
> > on the prairie in Nebraska, but they have four years under their belts,
> > (pun) so they were jumping for their lives from an out of control TJ, or
> > this is a murder cover-up, and to look for someone that stands to gain
> > from their deaths, a business partner?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> > > one sentence.....
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> > > dangerous our hobby really is.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal
accident has
> > > > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two
kids in
> > > > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > > > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs
to 13,000
> > > > ft at the pass.)
> > > >
> > > > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and
another
> > > > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The
paper
> > > > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another
vehicle
> > > > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that
caused it
> > > > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > > > investigation is still underway.
> > > >
> > > > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > > > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month,
these are
> > > > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > > > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs
we fear
> > > > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > > > cautious.
survived.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41193074.8CD25FA1@sympatico.ca...
> If you are dropping that distance, you are in big ----, belt or no belt,
> but 2 did survive, so it really make me wonder what the results would
> have been if everyone was belted in.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sticks in my craw, too. This couple was part of a club, be it
> > on the prairie in Nebraska, but they have four years under their belts,
> > (pun) so they were jumping for their lives from an out of control TJ, or
> > this is a murder cover-up, and to look for someone that stands to gain
> > from their deaths, a business partner?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> > > one sentence.....
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> > > dangerous our hobby really is.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal
accident has
> > > > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two
kids in
> > > > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > > > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs
to 13,000
> > > > ft at the pass.)
> > > >
> > > > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and
another
> > > > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The
paper
> > > > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another
vehicle
> > > > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that
caused it
> > > > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > > > investigation is still underway.
> > > >
> > > > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > > > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month,
these are
> > > > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > > > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs
we fear
> > > > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > > > cautious.
08-10-2004, 06:54 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
All four were thrown from the vehicle, it's quite remarkeable the 2 kids
survived.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41193074.8CD25FA1@sympatico.ca...
> If you are dropping that distance, you are in big ----, belt or no belt,
> but 2 did survive, so it really make me wonder what the results would
> have been if everyone was belted in.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sticks in my craw, too. This couple was part of a club, be it
> > on the prairie in Nebraska, but they have four years under their belts,
> > (pun) so they were jumping for their lives from an out of control TJ, or
> > this is a murder cover-up, and to look for someone that stands to gain
> > from their deaths, a business partner?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> > > one sentence.....
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> > > dangerous our hobby really is.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal
accident has
> > > > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two
kids in
> > > > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > > > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs
to 13,000
> > > > ft at the pass.)
> > > >
> > > > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and
another
> > > > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The
paper
> > > > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another
vehicle
> > > > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that
caused it
> > > > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > > > investigation is still underway.
> > > >
> > > > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > > > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month,
these are
> > > > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > > > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs
we fear
> > > > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > > > cautious.
survived.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41193074.8CD25FA1@sympatico.ca...
> If you are dropping that distance, you are in big ----, belt or no belt,
> but 2 did survive, so it really make me wonder what the results would
> have been if everyone was belted in.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sticks in my craw, too. This couple was part of a club, be it
> > on the prairie in Nebraska, but they have four years under their belts,
> > (pun) so they were jumping for their lives from an out of control TJ, or
> > this is a murder cover-up, and to look for someone that stands to gain
> > from their deaths, a business partner?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> > > one sentence.....
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> > > dangerous our hobby really is.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal
accident has
> > > > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two
kids in
> > > > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > > > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs
to 13,000
> > > > ft at the pass.)
> > > >
> > > > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and
another
> > > > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The
paper
> > > > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another
vehicle
> > > > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that
caused it
> > > > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > > > investigation is still underway.
> > > >
> > > > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > > > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month,
these are
> > > > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > > > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs
we fear
> > > > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > > > cautious.
08-10-2004, 06:54 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
All four were thrown from the vehicle, it's quite remarkeable the 2 kids
survived.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41193074.8CD25FA1@sympatico.ca...
> If you are dropping that distance, you are in big ----, belt or no belt,
> but 2 did survive, so it really make me wonder what the results would
> have been if everyone was belted in.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sticks in my craw, too. This couple was part of a club, be it
> > on the prairie in Nebraska, but they have four years under their belts,
> > (pun) so they were jumping for their lives from an out of control TJ, or
> > this is a murder cover-up, and to look for someone that stands to gain
> > from their deaths, a business partner?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> > > one sentence.....
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> > > dangerous our hobby really is.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal
accident has
> > > > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two
kids in
> > > > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > > > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs
to 13,000
> > > > ft at the pass.)
> > > >
> > > > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and
another
> > > > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The
paper
> > > > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another
vehicle
> > > > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that
caused it
> > > > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > > > investigation is still underway.
> > > >
> > > > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > > > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month,
these are
> > > > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > > > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs
we fear
> > > > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > > > cautious.
survived.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41193074.8CD25FA1@sympatico.ca...
> If you are dropping that distance, you are in big ----, belt or no belt,
> but 2 did survive, so it really make me wonder what the results would
> have been if everyone was belted in.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sticks in my craw, too. This couple was part of a club, be it
> > on the prairie in Nebraska, but they have four years under their belts,
> > (pun) so they were jumping for their lives from an out of control TJ, or
> > this is a murder cover-up, and to look for someone that stands to gain
> > from their deaths, a business partner?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > I find the words 'experienced' and 'no seat belts' hard to swallow in
> > > one sentence.....
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear about the loss, though you are right it reminds us how
> > > dangerous our hobby really is.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal
accident has
> > > > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two
kids in
> > > > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > > > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs
to 13,000
> > > > ft at the pass.)
> > > >
> > > > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and
another
> > > > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The
paper
> > > > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another
vehicle
> > > > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that
caused it
> > > > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > > > investigation is still underway.
> > > >
> > > > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > > > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month,
these are
> > > > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > > > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs
we fear
> > > > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > > > cautious.
08-10-2004, 06:54 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Imogene Pass Fatalities.
Tha's the wreck on Black Bear from a few weeks ago. The one on Imogene just
happened yesterday.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41193008.DA1837E@***.net...
> Hi Jerry,
> I the first reports tell of a '04 TJ which is what I recognize by
> it's cowl and rag top sitting on it's top in picture:
> http://----------.com/BlackBearPassJeepWreck.jpg And pictured with them
> at: http://www.midriversjeepthing.com/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.
happened yesterday.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41193008.DA1837E@***.net...
> Hi Jerry,
> I the first reports tell of a '04 TJ which is what I recognize by
> it's cowl and rag top sitting on it's top in picture:
> http://----------.com/BlackBearPassJeepWreck.jpg And pictured with them
> at: http://www.midriversjeepthing.com/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I just read in today's Durango, CO Herald that another fatal accident
has
> > occurred on the trails above Telluride. This time a couple with two kids
in
> > a Grand Cherokee went off the trail to Imogene Pass. (Imogene is a
> > moderately difficult trail between Telluride and Ouray that climbs to
13,000
> > ft at the pass.)
> >
> > The driver and his wife were killed, their 11 year old son and another
> > youngster were seriously injured. All of them were unbelted. The paper
> > reported they had pulled to the side of the trail to let another vehicle
> > pass. As they proceeded they ran the Grand up on some rocks that caused
it
> > to roll, then fall 800 ft down the side of the mountain. An accident
> > investigation is still underway.
> >
> > We again are reminded of the implicit dangers of traveling San Juan
mountain
> > trails. Along with the 2 fatalities on Black Bear Pass last month, these
are
> > the first fatal accidents on these trails anyone can remember.
> >
> > Both accidents are reputed to have involve experienced 4 wheelers.
However,
> > with the increase in numbers of inexperienced drivers with new SUVs we
fear
> > these numbers will climb and advise everyone heading this way to be
doubly
> > cautious.