I'm gonna go Postal....!
05-17-2005, 08:18 AM
#11
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
The inexpensive Haynes manual has an excellent wiring diagram for the
CJ's. I have used it to wire several and a couple YJ's. (The CJ manual
has better 258 wiring than the YJ book)
You also can get replacement harness pieces from a couple different
companies if it is beyond hope or melted out.
if it isn't melted, I would start by replacing the ground strap from the
rear of the engine head to the firewall. A dead one can/will cause
symptoms like yours. There also is a ground from the block to the frame
that bypasses one of the engine mounts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ervin Charles wrote:
>
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
CJ's. I have used it to wire several and a couple YJ's. (The CJ manual
has better 258 wiring than the YJ book)
You also can get replacement harness pieces from a couple different
companies if it is beyond hope or melted out.
if it isn't melted, I would start by replacing the ground strap from the
rear of the engine head to the firewall. A dead one can/will cause
symptoms like yours. There also is a ground from the block to the frame
that bypasses one of the engine mounts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ervin Charles wrote:
>
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
05-17-2005, 08:18 AM
#12
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
The inexpensive Haynes manual has an excellent wiring diagram for the
CJ's. I have used it to wire several and a couple YJ's. (The CJ manual
has better 258 wiring than the YJ book)
You also can get replacement harness pieces from a couple different
companies if it is beyond hope or melted out.
if it isn't melted, I would start by replacing the ground strap from the
rear of the engine head to the firewall. A dead one can/will cause
symptoms like yours. There also is a ground from the block to the frame
that bypasses one of the engine mounts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ervin Charles wrote:
>
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
CJ's. I have used it to wire several and a couple YJ's. (The CJ manual
has better 258 wiring than the YJ book)
You also can get replacement harness pieces from a couple different
companies if it is beyond hope or melted out.
if it isn't melted, I would start by replacing the ground strap from the
rear of the engine head to the firewall. A dead one can/will cause
symptoms like yours. There also is a ground from the block to the frame
that bypasses one of the engine mounts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ervin Charles wrote:
>
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
05-17-2005, 08:18 AM
#13
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
The inexpensive Haynes manual has an excellent wiring diagram for the
CJ's. I have used it to wire several and a couple YJ's. (The CJ manual
has better 258 wiring than the YJ book)
You also can get replacement harness pieces from a couple different
companies if it is beyond hope or melted out.
if it isn't melted, I would start by replacing the ground strap from the
rear of the engine head to the firewall. A dead one can/will cause
symptoms like yours. There also is a ground from the block to the frame
that bypasses one of the engine mounts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ervin Charles wrote:
>
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
CJ's. I have used it to wire several and a couple YJ's. (The CJ manual
has better 258 wiring than the YJ book)
You also can get replacement harness pieces from a couple different
companies if it is beyond hope or melted out.
if it isn't melted, I would start by replacing the ground strap from the
rear of the engine head to the firewall. A dead one can/will cause
symptoms like yours. There also is a ground from the block to the frame
that bypasses one of the engine mounts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ervin Charles wrote:
>
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
05-17-2005, 08:53 AM
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
If your pockets are deep enough just replace the harness, otherwise
you're going to be chasing wiring faults and replacing cable until the
cows come home. There's a couple of manufacturers out there that make
universal fit harnesses for Jeeps with factory-like connectors,
including the bulkhead connector at the firewall. I used the Painless
flavor on my `79 CJ-5 rebuild and it was, um, /mostly/ painless -- at
least everything other than the charging and starting circuits was painless.
And, hey, I didn't laugh that you got a DJ. If I had the space I'd get
one too, I like `em. Right now I'm wondering if I should try and talk
the guy 20 miles away out of his FC-170 DRW that's been sitting for 15
years (that I know of). My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.
Ervin Charles wrote:
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
>
>
05-17-2005, 08:53 AM
#15
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
If your pockets are deep enough just replace the harness, otherwise
you're going to be chasing wiring faults and replacing cable until the
cows come home. There's a couple of manufacturers out there that make
universal fit harnesses for Jeeps with factory-like connectors,
including the bulkhead connector at the firewall. I used the Painless
flavor on my `79 CJ-5 rebuild and it was, um, /mostly/ painless -- at
least everything other than the charging and starting circuits was painless.
And, hey, I didn't laugh that you got a DJ. If I had the space I'd get
one too, I like `em. Right now I'm wondering if I should try and talk
the guy 20 miles away out of his FC-170 DRW that's been sitting for 15
years (that I know of). My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.
Ervin Charles wrote:
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
>
>
05-17-2005, 08:53 AM
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
If your pockets are deep enough just replace the harness, otherwise
you're going to be chasing wiring faults and replacing cable until the
cows come home. There's a couple of manufacturers out there that make
universal fit harnesses for Jeeps with factory-like connectors,
including the bulkhead connector at the firewall. I used the Painless
flavor on my `79 CJ-5 rebuild and it was, um, /mostly/ painless -- at
least everything other than the charging and starting circuits was painless.
And, hey, I didn't laugh that you got a DJ. If I had the space I'd get
one too, I like `em. Right now I'm wondering if I should try and talk
the guy 20 miles away out of his FC-170 DRW that's been sitting for 15
years (that I know of). My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.
Ervin Charles wrote:
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
>
>
05-17-2005, 08:53 AM
#17
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
If your pockets are deep enough just replace the harness, otherwise
you're going to be chasing wiring faults and replacing cable until the
cows come home. There's a couple of manufacturers out there that make
universal fit harnesses for Jeeps with factory-like connectors,
including the bulkhead connector at the firewall. I used the Painless
flavor on my `79 CJ-5 rebuild and it was, um, /mostly/ painless -- at
least everything other than the charging and starting circuits was painless.
And, hey, I didn't laugh that you got a DJ. If I had the space I'd get
one too, I like `em. Right now I'm wondering if I should try and talk
the guy 20 miles away out of his FC-170 DRW that's been sitting for 15
years (that I know of). My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.
Ervin Charles wrote:
> Hey group,
> I recently acquired a 1981 DJ5L Postal Jeep (stop laughing!!) and the
> wiring under the dash looks like hell. The number of splices and wire taps
> under the dash is scary! Not surprisingly, I have electrical issues. Try
> this on... Key off, turn on the heater blower motor switch and the turn
> signal flasher starts clicking... the lights are not blinking but the
> flasher clicks away. I might also add that the blower will not start running
> till you turn the key on. I dunno....
> So what I'm looking for is not "What's wrong with my Jeep?" but does anyone
> have a schematic for a DJ series Jeep? I think mid to late 70's up to mid to
> late 80's should get me by. I really appreciate any help you guys could give
> me on this one.
> Thanks,
> Charles
>
>
05-17-2005, 07:33 PM
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
You've got it all backwards ...
1. Move wife's vehicles ...that's what the street is for.
2. Go buy large amounts of huge rock chunks and crushed limestone from
wrecked buildings to create new and bigger driveway that wife's car cannot
get over but your Jeep's can.
3. Buy comfortable cot and sleep in Jeep with tent rig hooked up to back.
4. Install small woodburning stove, TV, and bar fridge in garage with
port-a-potty outside. Tell wife she keeps house clean cuz she's the only one
living there. You keep garage clean.
5. Only go inside house for --- and clean clothes.
6. And so you both live happily-ever-after.
> My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
> couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.
1. Move wife's vehicles ...that's what the street is for.
2. Go buy large amounts of huge rock chunks and crushed limestone from
wrecked buildings to create new and bigger driveway that wife's car cannot
get over but your Jeep's can.
3. Buy comfortable cot and sleep in Jeep with tent rig hooked up to back.
4. Install small woodburning stove, TV, and bar fridge in garage with
port-a-potty outside. Tell wife she keeps house clean cuz she's the only one
living there. You keep garage clean.
5. Only go inside house for --- and clean clothes.
6. And so you both live happily-ever-after.
> My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
> couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.
05-17-2005, 07:33 PM
#19
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
You've got it all backwards ...
1. Move wife's vehicles ...that's what the street is for.
2. Go buy large amounts of huge rock chunks and crushed limestone from
wrecked buildings to create new and bigger driveway that wife's car cannot
get over but your Jeep's can.
3. Buy comfortable cot and sleep in Jeep with tent rig hooked up to back.
4. Install small woodburning stove, TV, and bar fridge in garage with
port-a-potty outside. Tell wife she keeps house clean cuz she's the only one
living there. You keep garage clean.
5. Only go inside house for --- and clean clothes.
6. And so you both live happily-ever-after.
> My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
> couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.
1. Move wife's vehicles ...that's what the street is for.
2. Go buy large amounts of huge rock chunks and crushed limestone from
wrecked buildings to create new and bigger driveway that wife's car cannot
get over but your Jeep's can.
3. Buy comfortable cot and sleep in Jeep with tent rig hooked up to back.
4. Install small woodburning stove, TV, and bar fridge in garage with
port-a-potty outside. Tell wife she keeps house clean cuz she's the only one
living there. You keep garage clean.
5. Only go inside house for --- and clean clothes.
6. And so you both live happily-ever-after.
> My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
> couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.
05-17-2005, 07:33 PM
#20
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Re: I'm gonna go Postal....!
You've got it all backwards ...
1. Move wife's vehicles ...that's what the street is for.
2. Go buy large amounts of huge rock chunks and crushed limestone from
wrecked buildings to create new and bigger driveway that wife's car cannot
get over but your Jeep's can.
3. Buy comfortable cot and sleep in Jeep with tent rig hooked up to back.
4. Install small woodburning stove, TV, and bar fridge in garage with
port-a-potty outside. Tell wife she keeps house clean cuz she's the only one
living there. You keep garage clean.
5. Only go inside house for --- and clean clothes.
6. And so you both live happily-ever-after.
> My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
> couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.
1. Move wife's vehicles ...that's what the street is for.
2. Go buy large amounts of huge rock chunks and crushed limestone from
wrecked buildings to create new and bigger driveway that wife's car cannot
get over but your Jeep's can.
3. Buy comfortable cot and sleep in Jeep with tent rig hooked up to back.
4. Install small woodburning stove, TV, and bar fridge in garage with
port-a-potty outside. Tell wife she keeps house clean cuz she's the only one
living there. You keep garage clean.
5. Only go inside house for --- and clean clothes.
6. And so you both live happily-ever-after.
> My garage is full, the driveway's short and my
> couch isn't very comfortable to sleep on, if you get my drift.