Re: Ignition switch question.
 

Same with Fords, at least from '78 on. Somewhat irritating to have
the fan run even thought the switch is in the off position.
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> All the speeds work in both my Jeeps and I just remembered you 'can'
> turn off the fan in the XJ if you slide the vent control all the way
> off. Forgot about that.
>
> I just remembered someone using acc and forgetting to kill the fan or
> not knowing about it on low by default is better said, so the battery
> died.
>
> With the fan switch 'off' and the vent/heat control anywhere but off,
> the fan is on low automatically in the newer Jeeps. My 88 Cherokee and
> the YJ's have it that way.
>
> Mike

Re: Ignition switch question.
 

My 93 XJ does the same thing, if key in ACC. fan runs (on whichever speed
you have set).
Dumb thing is, for the cig. lighter to work you need either ACC or run
position selected, I prefer having that like the GMC truck, lighter always
hot.

Snow...


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41794639.6BC9810D@sympatico.ca...
> Interesting, maybe it was just AMC's dumb idea then...
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > I just checked and double-checked, my TJ's heater fan does not run when
the
> > ignition switch is in the Accessory position.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:QZ9ed.37253$bk1.12568@fed1read05...
> > > Maybe I was just screwed up in my thinking/memory, it wouldn't be the
> > > first time. I'm getting ready to drive off to work in the TJ, I'll
check
> > > it out. :)
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:41792833.7B5536B2@sympatico.ca...
> > >> All the newer Jeeps I have played with have the heater fan always on
> > >> low, you cannot shut it off. It turns on with the acc.
> > >>
> > >> I bet if you check, your TJ has that too.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I've never had a vehicle where the heater blower would operate when
the
> > >>> ignition switch was in the accessory position.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jerry
> > >>> --
> > >>> Jerry Bransford
> > >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > >>> "Pudljmpr53" <pudljmpr53@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >>> news:20041022111835.02895.00001692@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > >>> > On my 91 YJ the ignition switch got jacked up while my mechanic
was
> > >>> > trying
> > >>> > to
> > >>> > fix the turn signal/wiper/high beam switch. Well the new switch
has a
> > >>> > few
> > >>> > problems. Firstly, Is the heater blower supposed to be on when
the
> > >>> > key is
> > >>> > in
> > >>> > the Acc. position.? Secondly, when the switch is in the Off
position
> > >>> > a
> > >>> > slight
> > >>> > turn toward the Acc. postion will activate Acc. mode. There is no
> > >>> > positive
> > >>> > detent. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >

Re: Ignition switch question.
 

My 93 XJ does the same thing, if key in ACC. fan runs (on whichever speed
you have set).
Dumb thing is, for the cig. lighter to work you need either ACC or run
position selected, I prefer having that like the GMC truck, lighter always
hot.

Snow...


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41794639.6BC9810D@sympatico.ca...
> Interesting, maybe it was just AMC's dumb idea then...
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > I just checked and double-checked, my TJ's heater fan does not run when
the
> > ignition switch is in the Accessory position.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:QZ9ed.37253$bk1.12568@fed1read05...
> > > Maybe I was just screwed up in my thinking/memory, it wouldn't be the
> > > first time. I'm getting ready to drive off to work in the TJ, I'll
check
> > > it out. :)
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:41792833.7B5536B2@sympatico.ca...
> > >> All the newer Jeeps I have played with have the heater fan always on
> > >> low, you cannot shut it off. It turns on with the acc.
> > >>
> > >> I bet if you check, your TJ has that too.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I've never had a vehicle where the heater blower would operate when
the
> > >>> ignition switch was in the accessory position.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jerry
> > >>> --
> > >>> Jerry Bransford
> > >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > >>> "Pudljmpr53" <pudljmpr53@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >>> news:20041022111835.02895.00001692@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > >>> > On my 91 YJ the ignition switch got jacked up while my mechanic
was
> > >>> > trying
> > >>> > to
> > >>> > fix the turn signal/wiper/high beam switch. Well the new switch
has a
> > >>> > few
> > >>> > problems. Firstly, Is the heater blower supposed to be on when
the
> > >>> > key is
> > >>> > in
> > >>> > the Acc. position.? Secondly, when the switch is in the Off
position
> > >>> > a
> > >>> > slight
> > >>> > turn toward the Acc. postion will activate Acc. mode. There is no
> > >>> > positive
> > >>> > detent. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >

Re: Ignition switch question.
 

My 93 XJ does the same thing, if key in ACC. fan runs (on whichever speed
you have set).
Dumb thing is, for the cig. lighter to work you need either ACC or run
position selected, I prefer having that like the GMC truck, lighter always
hot.

Snow...


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41794639.6BC9810D@sympatico.ca...
> Interesting, maybe it was just AMC's dumb idea then...
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > I just checked and double-checked, my TJ's heater fan does not run when
the
> > ignition switch is in the Accessory position.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:QZ9ed.37253$bk1.12568@fed1read05...
> > > Maybe I was just screwed up in my thinking/memory, it wouldn't be the
> > > first time. I'm getting ready to drive off to work in the TJ, I'll
check
> > > it out. :)
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:41792833.7B5536B2@sympatico.ca...
> > >> All the newer Jeeps I have played with have the heater fan always on
> > >> low, you cannot shut it off. It turns on with the acc.
> > >>
> > >> I bet if you check, your TJ has that too.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I've never had a vehicle where the heater blower would operate when
the
> > >>> ignition switch was in the accessory position.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jerry
> > >>> --
> > >>> Jerry Bransford
> > >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > >>> "Pudljmpr53" <pudljmpr53@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >>> news:20041022111835.02895.00001692@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > >>> > On my 91 YJ the ignition switch got jacked up while my mechanic
was
> > >>> > trying
> > >>> > to
> > >>> > fix the turn signal/wiper/high beam switch. Well the new switch
has a
> > >>> > few
> > >>> > problems. Firstly, Is the heater blower supposed to be on when
the
> > >>> > key is
> > >>> > in
> > >>> > the Acc. position.? Secondly, when the switch is in the Off
position
> > >>> > a
> > >>> > slight
> > >>> > turn toward the Acc. postion will activate Acc. mode. There is no
> > >>> > positive
> > >>> > detent. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >

Re: Ignition switch question.
 

Snow did pass the time by typing:
> My 93 XJ does the same thing, if key in ACC. fan runs (on whichever speed
> you have set).
> Dumb thing is, for the cig. lighter to work you need either ACC or run
> position selected, I prefer having that like the GMC truck, lighter always
> hot.

Easy fix with a simple spdt switch. Got one in the ZJ. Actually two,
one in the back also. http://members.cox.net/wilsond/rearpower.html

battery<-----(fuse)---o
\o----->ciggy lighter
original feed<--------o

That way you can switch from constant on (charging a cell phone)
to off with the vehicle (radar detector) or somesuchthinglikethatthere.

--
DougW

Re: Ignition switch question.
 

Snow did pass the time by typing:
> My 93 XJ does the same thing, if key in ACC. fan runs (on whichever speed
> you have set).
> Dumb thing is, for the cig. lighter to work you need either ACC or run
> position selected, I prefer having that like the GMC truck, lighter always
> hot.

Easy fix with a simple spdt switch. Got one in the ZJ. Actually two,
one in the back also. http://members.cox.net/wilsond/rearpower.html

battery<-----(fuse)---o
\o----->ciggy lighter
original feed<--------o

That way you can switch from constant on (charging a cell phone)
to off with the vehicle (radar detector) or somesuchthinglikethatthere.

--
DougW

Re: Ignition switch question.
 

Snow did pass the time by typing:
> My 93 XJ does the same thing, if key in ACC. fan runs (on whichever speed
> you have set).
> Dumb thing is, for the cig. lighter to work you need either ACC or run
> position selected, I prefer having that like the GMC truck, lighter always
> hot.

Easy fix with a simple spdt switch. Got one in the ZJ. Actually two,
one in the back also. http://members.cox.net/wilsond/rearpower.html

battery<-----(fuse)---o
\o----->ciggy lighter
original feed<--------o

That way you can switch from constant on (charging a cell phone)
to off with the vehicle (radar detector) or somesuchthinglikethatthere.

--
DougW

Re: Ignition switch question.
 

I think Ralph Nader got your hot lighter - claimed it was a safety
hazard for kiddies. Now, with all the cell phones and other junk
they've gone back to a hot plug but they call it an "accessory plug"
since cigarettes and cigars are no longer PC.


On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:48:13 UTC "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote:

> My 93 XJ does the same thing, if key in ACC. fan runs (on whichever speed
> you have set).
> Dumb thing is, for the cig. lighter to work you need either ACC or run
> position selected, I prefer having that like the GMC truck, lighter always
> hot.
>
> Snow...
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41794639.6BC9810D@sympatico.ca...
> > Interesting, maybe it was just AMC's dumb idea then...
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >
> > > I just checked and double-checked, my TJ's heater fan does not run when
> the
> > > ignition switch is in the Accessory position.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:QZ9ed.37253$bk1.12568@fed1read05...
> > > > Maybe I was just screwed up in my thinking/memory, it wouldn't be the
> > > > first time. I'm getting ready to drive off to work in the TJ, I'll
> check
> > > > it out. :)
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:41792833.7B5536B2@sympatico.ca...
> > > >> All the newer Jeeps I have played with have the heater fan always on
> > > >> low, you cannot shut it off. It turns on with the acc.
> > > >>
> > > >> I bet if you check, your TJ has that too.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike
> > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >>
> > > >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've never had a vehicle where the heater blower would operate when
> the
> > > >>> ignition switch was in the accessory position.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jerry
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Jerry Bransford
> > > >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > >>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > >>> "Pudljmpr53" <pudljmpr53@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:20041022111835.02895.00001692@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > > >>> > On my 91 YJ the ignition switch got jacked up while my mechanic
> was
> > > >>> > trying
> > > >>> > to
> > > >>> > fix the turn signal/wiper/high beam switch. Well the new switch
> has a
> > > >>> > few
> > > >>> > problems. Firstly, Is the heater blower supposed to be on when
> the
> > > >>> > key is
> > > >>> > in
> > > >>> > the Acc. position.? Secondly, when the switch is in the Off
> position
> > > >>> > a
> > > >>> > slight
> > > >>> > turn toward the Acc. postion will activate Acc. mode. There is no
> > > >>> > positive
> > > >>> > detent. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Ignition switch question.
 

I think Ralph Nader got your hot lighter - claimed it was a safety
hazard for kiddies. Now, with all the cell phones and other junk
they've gone back to a hot plug but they call it an "accessory plug"
since cigarettes and cigars are no longer PC.


On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:48:13 UTC "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote:

> My 93 XJ does the same thing, if key in ACC. fan runs (on whichever speed
> you have set).
> Dumb thing is, for the cig. lighter to work you need either ACC or run
> position selected, I prefer having that like the GMC truck, lighter always
> hot.
>
> Snow...
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41794639.6BC9810D@sympatico.ca...
> > Interesting, maybe it was just AMC's dumb idea then...
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >
> > > I just checked and double-checked, my TJ's heater fan does not run when
> the
> > > ignition switch is in the Accessory position.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:QZ9ed.37253$bk1.12568@fed1read05...
> > > > Maybe I was just screwed up in my thinking/memory, it wouldn't be the
> > > > first time. I'm getting ready to drive off to work in the TJ, I'll
> check
> > > > it out. :)
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:41792833.7B5536B2@sympatico.ca...
> > > >> All the newer Jeeps I have played with have the heater fan always on
> > > >> low, you cannot shut it off. It turns on with the acc.
> > > >>
> > > >> I bet if you check, your TJ has that too.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike
> > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >>
> > > >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've never had a vehicle where the heater blower would operate when
> the
> > > >>> ignition switch was in the accessory position.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jerry
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Jerry Bransford
> > > >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > >>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > >>> "Pudljmpr53" <pudljmpr53@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:20041022111835.02895.00001692@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > > >>> > On my 91 YJ the ignition switch got jacked up while my mechanic
> was
> > > >>> > trying
> > > >>> > to
> > > >>> > fix the turn signal/wiper/high beam switch. Well the new switch
> has a
> > > >>> > few
> > > >>> > problems. Firstly, Is the heater blower supposed to be on when
> the
> > > >>> > key is
> > > >>> > in
> > > >>> > the Acc. position.? Secondly, when the switch is in the Off
> position
> > > >>> > a
> > > >>> > slight
> > > >>> > turn toward the Acc. postion will activate Acc. mode. There is no
> > > >>> > positive
> > > >>> > detent. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Ignition switch question.
 

I think Ralph Nader got your hot lighter - claimed it was a safety
hazard for kiddies. Now, with all the cell phones and other junk
they've gone back to a hot plug but they call it an "accessory plug"
since cigarettes and cigars are no longer PC.


On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:48:13 UTC "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote:

> My 93 XJ does the same thing, if key in ACC. fan runs (on whichever speed
> you have set).
> Dumb thing is, for the cig. lighter to work you need either ACC or run
> position selected, I prefer having that like the GMC truck, lighter always
> hot.
>
> Snow...
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41794639.6BC9810D@sympatico.ca...
> > Interesting, maybe it was just AMC's dumb idea then...
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >
> > > I just checked and double-checked, my TJ's heater fan does not run when
> the
> > > ignition switch is in the Accessory position.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:QZ9ed.37253$bk1.12568@fed1read05...
> > > > Maybe I was just screwed up in my thinking/memory, it wouldn't be the
> > > > first time. I'm getting ready to drive off to work in the TJ, I'll
> check
> > > > it out. :)
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:41792833.7B5536B2@sympatico.ca...
> > > >> All the newer Jeeps I have played with have the heater fan always on
> > > >> low, you cannot shut it off. It turns on with the acc.
> > > >>
> > > >> I bet if you check, your TJ has that too.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike
> > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >>
> > > >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've never had a vehicle where the heater blower would operate when
> the
> > > >>> ignition switch was in the accessory position.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jerry
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Jerry Bransford
> > > >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > >>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > >>> "Pudljmpr53" <pudljmpr53@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:20041022111835.02895.00001692@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > > >>> > On my 91 YJ the ignition switch got jacked up while my mechanic
> was
> > > >>> > trying
> > > >>> > to
> > > >>> > fix the turn signal/wiper/high beam switch. Well the new switch
> has a
> > > >>> > few
> > > >>> > problems. Firstly, Is the heater blower supposed to be on when
> the
> > > >>> > key is
> > > >>> > in
> > > >>> > the Acc. position.? Secondly, when the switch is in the Off
> position
> > > >>> > a
> > > >>> > slight
> > > >>> > turn toward the Acc. postion will activate Acc. mode. There is no
> > > >>> > positive
> > > >>> > detent. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>


--
Will Honea