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DougW 03-22-2007 08:31 PM

Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> Another possibility is that the stock spark plugs are not of the
> proper heat range for use with gas, but I wouldn't know how to
> recommend the correct ones. This is the sort of thing that your gas
> conversion kit manufacturer should be familiar with.


That and gas conversions are very picky with intake leaks.

I'm still betting on carbon fouling in the spark plugs.

> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:gZ-dnXKbyIGkBZ_bnZ2dnUVZ_qKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> It sounds like the gas/air ratio isn't adjusted right, and the
>> engine is getting carbon deposits from running on gas, thus fouling
>> the spark plugs. The gas system either isn't adjusted properly, or
>> has improper parts. A work around is to operate on petrol every few
>> days, or when the car starts cutting off. The real fix is to get
>> the gas/air mixture adjusted properly. A diagnostic is to check the
>> spark plug condition when the problem occurs.
>>
>> You need to find a mechanic who is competent to service and
>> troubleshoot this system, not just install it out of the box.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> <rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I hope someone can help!!
>>> I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year
>>> ago. When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts
>>> off. But when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but
>>> then the engine
>>> management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
>>> cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
>>> the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
>>> answers
>>> to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
>>> gas conversion (which they carried out).
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
>>>
>>>
>>> Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive
>>> as it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please give suggestions!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Rouhel





DougW 03-22-2007 08:31 PM

Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> Another possibility is that the stock spark plugs are not of the
> proper heat range for use with gas, but I wouldn't know how to
> recommend the correct ones. This is the sort of thing that your gas
> conversion kit manufacturer should be familiar with.


That and gas conversions are very picky with intake leaks.

I'm still betting on carbon fouling in the spark plugs.

> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:gZ-dnXKbyIGkBZ_bnZ2dnUVZ_qKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> It sounds like the gas/air ratio isn't adjusted right, and the
>> engine is getting carbon deposits from running on gas, thus fouling
>> the spark plugs. The gas system either isn't adjusted properly, or
>> has improper parts. A work around is to operate on petrol every few
>> days, or when the car starts cutting off. The real fix is to get
>> the gas/air mixture adjusted properly. A diagnostic is to check the
>> spark plug condition when the problem occurs.
>>
>> You need to find a mechanic who is competent to service and
>> troubleshoot this system, not just install it out of the box.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> <rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I hope someone can help!!
>>> I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year
>>> ago. When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts
>>> off. But when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but
>>> then the engine
>>> management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
>>> cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
>>> the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
>>> answers
>>> to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
>>> gas conversion (which they carried out).
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
>>>
>>>
>>> Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive
>>> as it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please give suggestions!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Rouhel





L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-22-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
You haven't seen dangerous yet, wait until it ices up at full throttle.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all
>
> I hope someone can help!!
> I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year ago.
> When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts off. But
> when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but then the
> engine
> management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
> cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
> the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
> answers
> to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
> gas conversion (which they carried out).
>
>
> Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
>
>
> Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive as
> it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
>
>
> Please give suggestions!!!!
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Rouhel
>





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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-22-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
You haven't seen dangerous yet, wait until it ices up at full throttle.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all
>
> I hope someone can help!!
> I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year ago.
> When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts off. But
> when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but then the
> engine
> management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
> cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
> the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
> answers
> to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
> gas conversion (which they carried out).
>
>
> Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
>
>
> Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive as
> it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
>
>
> Please give suggestions!!!!
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Rouhel
>





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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-22-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
You haven't seen dangerous yet, wait until it ices up at full throttle.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all
>
> I hope someone can help!!
> I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year ago.
> When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts off. But
> when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but then the
> engine
> management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
> cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
> the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
> answers
> to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
> gas conversion (which they carried out).
>
>
> Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
>
>
> Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive as
> it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
>
>
> Please give suggestions!!!!
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Rouhel
>





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Earle Horton 03-23-2007 01:53 AM

Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
The gas company in my town runs their truck on LPG without problems. This
used to be a real common problem in the days of single throttle return
springs without any gas being involved at all. When did they finally come
out with double return springs, 1976? You fellas probably scared this guy
off with your anti-Honda pro-Jeep comments anyway. Nobody in the Honda ng
has a clue either.

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:46033633$0$16407$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> You haven't seen dangerous yet, wait until it ices up at full

throttle.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> <rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi all
> >
> > I hope someone can help!!
> > I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year ago.
> > When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts off. But
> > when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but then the
> > engine
> > management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
> > cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
> > the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
> > answers
> > to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
> > gas conversion (which they carried out).
> >
> >
> > Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
> >
> >
> > Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive as
> > it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
> >
> >
> > Please give suggestions!!!!
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Rouhel
> >

>
>
>
>
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>




Earle Horton 03-23-2007 01:53 AM

Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
The gas company in my town runs their truck on LPG without problems. This
used to be a real common problem in the days of single throttle return
springs without any gas being involved at all. When did they finally come
out with double return springs, 1976? You fellas probably scared this guy
off with your anti-Honda pro-Jeep comments anyway. Nobody in the Honda ng
has a clue either.

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:46033633$0$16407$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> You haven't seen dangerous yet, wait until it ices up at full

throttle.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> <rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi all
> >
> > I hope someone can help!!
> > I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year ago.
> > When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts off. But
> > when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but then the
> > engine
> > management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
> > cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
> > the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
> > answers
> > to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
> > gas conversion (which they carried out).
> >
> >
> > Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
> >
> >
> > Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive as
> > it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
> >
> >
> > Please give suggestions!!!!
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Rouhel
> >

>
>
>
>
> --
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>




Earle Horton 03-23-2007 01:53 AM

Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
The gas company in my town runs their truck on LPG without problems. This
used to be a real common problem in the days of single throttle return
springs without any gas being involved at all. When did they finally come
out with double return springs, 1976? You fellas probably scared this guy
off with your anti-Honda pro-Jeep comments anyway. Nobody in the Honda ng
has a clue either.

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:46033633$0$16407$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> You haven't seen dangerous yet, wait until it ices up at full

throttle.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> <rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi all
> >
> > I hope someone can help!!
> > I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year ago.
> > When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts off. But
> > when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but then the
> > engine
> > management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
> > cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
> > the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
> > answers
> > to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
> > gas conversion (which they carried out).
> >
> >
> > Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
> >
> >
> > Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive as
> > it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
> >
> >
> > Please give suggestions!!!!
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Rouhel
> >

>
>
>
>
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>




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-23-2007 02:14 AM

Off Topic Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
Hi Earle,
Drag Racing requires two return springs:
http://www.----------.com/tbirdCable.jpg
The gas adapters run the heater hose though it, thereby: destroying the
expansion value, and mileage:
http://www.----------.com/temp/Holley-REG-LPG-gas.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------

"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:ydKdnVhdTs-AwJ7bnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com...
> The gas company in my town runs their truck on LPG without problems. This
> used to be a real common problem in the days of single throttle return
> springs without any gas being involved at all. When did they finally come
> out with double return springs, 1976? You fellas probably scared this guy
> off with your anti-Honda pro-Jeep comments anyway. Nobody in the Honda ng
> has a clue either.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:46033633$0$16407$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > You haven't seen dangerous yet, wait until it ices up at full

> throttle.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > <rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > I hope someone can help!!
> > > I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year ago.
> > > When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts off. But
> > > when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but then the
> > > engine
> > > management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
> > > cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
> > > the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
> > > answers
> > > to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
> > > gas conversion (which they carried out).
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
> > >
> > >
> > > Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive as
> > > it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please give suggestions!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Rouhel
> > >

> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >

>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-23-2007 02:14 AM

Off Topic Re: Idling Problems with gas conversion
 
Hi Earle,
Drag Racing requires two return springs:
http://www.----------.com/tbirdCable.jpg
The gas adapters run the heater hose though it, thereby: destroying the
expansion value, and mileage:
http://www.----------.com/temp/Holley-REG-LPG-gas.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------

"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:ydKdnVhdTs-AwJ7bnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com...
> The gas company in my town runs their truck on LPG without problems. This
> used to be a real common problem in the days of single throttle return
> springs without any gas being involved at all. When did they finally come
> out with double return springs, 1976? You fellas probably scared this guy
> off with your anti-Honda pro-Jeep comments anyway. Nobody in the Honda ng
> has a clue either.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:46033633$0$16407$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > You haven't seen dangerous yet, wait until it ices up at full

> throttle.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > <rouhel.ahmed@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174559488.642533.149580@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > I hope someone can help!!
> > > I've got a Honda Accord (99) which i had converted to gas a year ago.
> > > When I drive the car in petrol mode, its fine and never cuts off. But
> > > when I drive in gas mode, its fine for a few days, but then the
> > > engine
> > > management light on the dash board lights up and the car starts
> > > cutting off. This cycle continues all the time and I've been down to
> > > the garage where I had the conversion done, but they've got no
> > > answers
> > > to the problem apart from blaming the car for not been suitable for
> > > gas conversion (which they carried out).
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone have a clue of whats going on with the car???
> > >
> > >
> > > Its getting to a point where the car has become dangerous to drive as
> > > it cuts off on traffic lights when i slow down.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please give suggestions!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Rouhel
> > >

> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >

>
>




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