Timberwoof

In article <F%wgc.31604$B%4.25445@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

> I agree. And not just pot. People have been getting high and searching for
> better ways to do it ever since Ugh the caveman discovered that eating
> fermented fruit would make you fall down and giggle a lot. Be it a bag of
> dried leaves, a vial of white powder or whatever, some people are bound and
> determined to get a buzz and no amount of legislation or disapproval will
> change that. Legalize it all and turn it into a source of revenue instead of
> wasting money and lives trying to stop something that can't be stopped.

But what do you propose to spend that revenue on?

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
http://www.timberwoof.com
Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html

keith

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in message news:<408c1efc.176950562@news-west.newscene.com>...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:14:45 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <ba696799.0404172100.55514e55@posting.google.com >, keith
> ><keithj43@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> d_saettele@yahoo.com (Dan Saettele) wrote in message
> >> news:<94d8f635.0404171441.326bfda8@posting.google. com>...
> >> > wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:<40806bb2$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.co m>...
> >> > > Tina Laitinen wrote:
>(snip)

>>
> >> It's ridiculous to suggest that Kerry would raise taxes except to roll
> >> back the tax cuts Bush targeted toward his wealthy supporters. On the
> >> other hand, Bush has increased the deficit to historic highs; he has
> >> taken the unprecedented step of cutting taxes during war-time, when we
> >> need *more* money, not less.
> >>
> >> Keith
> >
> >Keep in mind, too, that the Republicans, with all their dishonest
> >--------, actually claim Kerry "increased taxes" when all he really did
> >was refuse to lower them. In other words, Kerry hoped to avoid the
> >deficits so the Republicans claim he was raising taxes, which was a
> >lie.
>
> It amazes me that these supposedly fiscally aware republicans, who
> having gotten control went and gleefully charged up all the country's
> credit cards beyond all reason and are now hysterically afraid that a
> responsible president might be voted in, who will tell them that the
> their bill payment will have to go up.


Look (a couple or 3 of paragraphs up) kate, you're agreeing with
Christian, namely me:-)

Keith

keith

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in message news:<408c1efc.176950562@news-west.newscene.com>...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:14:45 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <ba696799.0404172100.55514e55@posting.google.com >, keith
> ><keithj43@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> d_saettele@yahoo.com (Dan Saettele) wrote in message
> >> news:<94d8f635.0404171441.326bfda8@posting.google. com>...
> >> > wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:<40806bb2$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.co m>...
> >> > > Tina Laitinen wrote:
>(snip)

>>
> >> It's ridiculous to suggest that Kerry would raise taxes except to roll
> >> back the tax cuts Bush targeted toward his wealthy supporters. On the
> >> other hand, Bush has increased the deficit to historic highs; he has
> >> taken the unprecedented step of cutting taxes during war-time, when we
> >> need *more* money, not less.
> >>
> >> Keith
> >
> >Keep in mind, too, that the Republicans, with all their dishonest
> >--------, actually claim Kerry "increased taxes" when all he really did
> >was refuse to lower them. In other words, Kerry hoped to avoid the
> >deficits so the Republicans claim he was raising taxes, which was a
> >lie.
>
> It amazes me that these supposedly fiscally aware republicans, who
> having gotten control went and gleefully charged up all the country's
> credit cards beyond all reason and are now hysterically afraid that a
> responsible president might be voted in, who will tell them that the
> their bill payment will have to go up.


Look (a couple or 3 of paragraphs up) kate, you're agreeing with
Christian, namely me:-)

Keith

keith

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in message news:<408c1efc.176950562@news-west.newscene.com>...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:14:45 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <ba696799.0404172100.55514e55@posting.google.com >, keith
> ><keithj43@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> d_saettele@yahoo.com (Dan Saettele) wrote in message
> >> news:<94d8f635.0404171441.326bfda8@posting.google. com>...
> >> > wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:<40806bb2$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.co m>...
> >> > > Tina Laitinen wrote:
>(snip)

>>
> >> It's ridiculous to suggest that Kerry would raise taxes except to roll
> >> back the tax cuts Bush targeted toward his wealthy supporters. On the
> >> other hand, Bush has increased the deficit to historic highs; he has
> >> taken the unprecedented step of cutting taxes during war-time, when we
> >> need *more* money, not less.
> >>
> >> Keith
> >
> >Keep in mind, too, that the Republicans, with all their dishonest
> >--------, actually claim Kerry "increased taxes" when all he really did
> >was refuse to lower them. In other words, Kerry hoped to avoid the
> >deficits so the Republicans claim he was raising taxes, which was a
> >lie.
>
> It amazes me that these supposedly fiscally aware republicans, who
> having gotten control went and gleefully charged up all the country's
> credit cards beyond all reason and are now hysterically afraid that a
> responsible president might be voted in, who will tell them that the
> their bill payment will have to go up.


Look (a couple or 3 of paragraphs up) kate, you're agreeing with
Christian, namely me:-)

Keith

keith

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in message news:<408c1efc.176950562@news-west.newscene.com>...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:14:45 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <ba696799.0404172100.55514e55@posting.google.com >, keith
> ><keithj43@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> d_saettele@yahoo.com (Dan Saettele) wrote in message
> >> news:<94d8f635.0404171441.326bfda8@posting.google. com>...
> >> > wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:<40806bb2$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.co m>...
> >> > > Tina Laitinen wrote:
>(snip)

>>
> >> It's ridiculous to suggest that Kerry would raise taxes except to roll
> >> back the tax cuts Bush targeted toward his wealthy supporters. On the
> >> other hand, Bush has increased the deficit to historic highs; he has
> >> taken the unprecedented step of cutting taxes during war-time, when we
> >> need *more* money, not less.
> >>
> >> Keith
> >
> >Keep in mind, too, that the Republicans, with all their dishonest
> >--------, actually claim Kerry "increased taxes" when all he really did
> >was refuse to lower them. In other words, Kerry hoped to avoid the
> >deficits so the Republicans claim he was raising taxes, which was a
> >lie.
>
> It amazes me that these supposedly fiscally aware republicans, who
> having gotten control went and gleefully charged up all the country's
> credit cards beyond all reason and are now hysterically afraid that a
> responsible president might be voted in, who will tell them that the
> their bill payment will have to go up.


Look (a couple or 3 of paragraphs up) kate, you're agreeing with
Christian, namely me:-)

Keith

Kate

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:10:34 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
wrote:

>In article <408c1efc.176950562@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate
><cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:14:45 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <ba696799.0404172100.55514e55@posting.google.com >, keith
>> ><keithj43@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> d_saettele@yahoo.com (Dan Saettele) wrote in message
>> >> news:<94d8f635.0404171441.326bfda8@posting.google. com>...
>> >> > wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:<40806bb2$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.co m>...
>> >> > > Tina Laitinen wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
>> >> > > > news:<c5opd4$1a39$1@news.wplus.net>...
>> >> > > >> http://www.madville.com/link.php?id=67909&t=15
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Trolllll..... Trolllll in the newsgroup, its a republican
>> >> > > > Trolllll....
>> >> > > > troollllll!!!!!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Every time somebody votes republican, the
>> >> > > baby Jesus cries and Satan laughs.
>> >> >
>> >> > I suppose Jesus supports Kerry's stance on abortion, too. For some
>> >> > reason, I think Jesus might have considered murder of innocent
>> >> > children more important than bankruptcy (and it's possible that Bush
>> >> > may bankrupt the country, but Kerry would bankrupt the citizens with
>> >> > ridiculous taxes).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It's ridiculous to suggest that Kerry would raise taxes except to roll
>> >> back the tax cuts Bush targeted toward his wealthy supporters. On the
>> >> other hand, Bush has increased the deficit to historic highs; he has
>> >> taken the unprecedented step of cutting taxes during war-time, when we
>> >> need *more* money, not less.
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >
>> >Keep in mind, too, that the Republicans, with all their dishonest
>> >--------, actually claim Kerry "increased taxes" when all he really did
>> >was refuse to lower them. In other words, Kerry hoped to avoid the
>> >deficits so the Republicans claim he was raising taxes, which was a
>> >lie.
>>
>> It amazes me that these supposedly fiscally aware republicans, who
>> having gotten control went and gleefully charged up all the country's
>> credit cards beyond all reason and are now hysterically afraid that a
>> responsible president might be voted in, who will tell them that the
>> their bill payment will have to go up.
>
>The Republican party is becoming concerned because the more responsible
>Republicans are now criticizing Bush for his irresponsible spending.


He didn't do it alone.

Kate

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:10:34 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
wrote:

>In article <408c1efc.176950562@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate
><cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:14:45 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <ba696799.0404172100.55514e55@posting.google.com >, keith
>> ><keithj43@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> d_saettele@yahoo.com (Dan Saettele) wrote in message
>> >> news:<94d8f635.0404171441.326bfda8@posting.google. com>...
>> >> > wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:<40806bb2$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.co m>...
>> >> > > Tina Laitinen wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
>> >> > > > news:<c5opd4$1a39$1@news.wplus.net>...
>> >> > > >> http://www.madville.com/link.php?id=67909&t=15
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Trolllll..... Trolllll in the newsgroup, its a republican
>> >> > > > Trolllll....
>> >> > > > troollllll!!!!!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Every time somebody votes republican, the
>> >> > > baby Jesus cries and Satan laughs.
>> >> >
>> >> > I suppose Jesus supports Kerry's stance on abortion, too. For some
>> >> > reason, I think Jesus might have considered murder of innocent
>> >> > children more important than bankruptcy (and it's possible that Bush
>> >> > may bankrupt the country, but Kerry would bankrupt the citizens with
>> >> > ridiculous taxes).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It's ridiculous to suggest that Kerry would raise taxes except to roll
>> >> back the tax cuts Bush targeted toward his wealthy supporters. On the
>> >> other hand, Bush has increased the deficit to historic highs; he has
>> >> taken the unprecedented step of cutting taxes during war-time, when we
>> >> need *more* money, not less.
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >
>> >Keep in mind, too, that the Republicans, with all their dishonest
>> >--------, actually claim Kerry "increased taxes" when all he really did
>> >was refuse to lower them. In other words, Kerry hoped to avoid the
>> >deficits so the Republicans claim he was raising taxes, which was a
>> >lie.
>>
>> It amazes me that these supposedly fiscally aware republicans, who
>> having gotten control went and gleefully charged up all the country's
>> credit cards beyond all reason and are now hysterically afraid that a
>> responsible president might be voted in, who will tell them that the
>> their bill payment will have to go up.
>
>The Republican party is becoming concerned because the more responsible
>Republicans are now criticizing Bush for his irresponsible spending.


He didn't do it alone.

Kate

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:10:34 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
wrote:

>In article <408c1efc.176950562@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate
><cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:14:45 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <ba696799.0404172100.55514e55@posting.google.com >, keith
>> ><keithj43@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> d_saettele@yahoo.com (Dan Saettele) wrote in message
>> >> news:<94d8f635.0404171441.326bfda8@posting.google. com>...
>> >> > wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:<40806bb2$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.co m>...
>> >> > > Tina Laitinen wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
>> >> > > > news:<c5opd4$1a39$1@news.wplus.net>...
>> >> > > >> http://www.madville.com/link.php?id=67909&t=15
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Trolllll..... Trolllll in the newsgroup, its a republican
>> >> > > > Trolllll....
>> >> > > > troollllll!!!!!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Every time somebody votes republican, the
>> >> > > baby Jesus cries and Satan laughs.
>> >> >
>> >> > I suppose Jesus supports Kerry's stance on abortion, too. For some
>> >> > reason, I think Jesus might have considered murder of innocent
>> >> > children more important than bankruptcy (and it's possible that Bush
>> >> > may bankrupt the country, but Kerry would bankrupt the citizens with
>> >> > ridiculous taxes).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It's ridiculous to suggest that Kerry would raise taxes except to roll
>> >> back the tax cuts Bush targeted toward his wealthy supporters. On the
>> >> other hand, Bush has increased the deficit to historic highs; he has
>> >> taken the unprecedented step of cutting taxes during war-time, when we
>> >> need *more* money, not less.
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >
>> >Keep in mind, too, that the Republicans, with all their dishonest
>> >--------, actually claim Kerry "increased taxes" when all he really did
>> >was refuse to lower them. In other words, Kerry hoped to avoid the
>> >deficits so the Republicans claim he was raising taxes, which was a
>> >lie.
>>
>> It amazes me that these supposedly fiscally aware republicans, who
>> having gotten control went and gleefully charged up all the country's
>> credit cards beyond all reason and are now hysterically afraid that a
>> responsible president might be voted in, who will tell them that the
>> their bill payment will have to go up.
>
>The Republican party is becoming concerned because the more responsible
>Republicans are now criticizing Bush for his irresponsible spending.


He didn't do it alone.

Kate

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:10:34 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
wrote:

>In article <408c1efc.176950562@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate
><cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:14:45 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <ba696799.0404172100.55514e55@posting.google.com >, keith
>> ><keithj43@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> d_saettele@yahoo.com (Dan Saettele) wrote in message
>> >> news:<94d8f635.0404171441.326bfda8@posting.google. com>...
>> >> > wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:<40806bb2$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.co m>...
>> >> > > Tina Laitinen wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
>> >> > > > news:<c5opd4$1a39$1@news.wplus.net>...
>> >> > > >> http://www.madville.com/link.php?id=67909&t=15
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Trolllll..... Trolllll in the newsgroup, its a republican
>> >> > > > Trolllll....
>> >> > > > troollllll!!!!!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Every time somebody votes republican, the
>> >> > > baby Jesus cries and Satan laughs.
>> >> >
>> >> > I suppose Jesus supports Kerry's stance on abortion, too. For some
>> >> > reason, I think Jesus might have considered murder of innocent
>> >> > children more important than bankruptcy (and it's possible that Bush
>> >> > may bankrupt the country, but Kerry would bankrupt the citizens with
>> >> > ridiculous taxes).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It's ridiculous to suggest that Kerry would raise taxes except to roll
>> >> back the tax cuts Bush targeted toward his wealthy supporters. On the
>> >> other hand, Bush has increased the deficit to historic highs; he has
>> >> taken the unprecedented step of cutting taxes during war-time, when we
>> >> need *more* money, not less.
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >
>> >Keep in mind, too, that the Republicans, with all their dishonest
>> >--------, actually claim Kerry "increased taxes" when all he really did
>> >was refuse to lower them. In other words, Kerry hoped to avoid the
>> >deficits so the Republicans claim he was raising taxes, which was a
>> >lie.
>>
>> It amazes me that these supposedly fiscally aware republicans, who
>> having gotten control went and gleefully charged up all the country's
>> credit cards beyond all reason and are now hysterically afraid that a
>> responsible president might be voted in, who will tell them that the
>> their bill payment will have to go up.
>
>The Republican party is becoming concerned because the more responsible
>Republicans are now criticizing Bush for his irresponsible spending.


He didn't do it alone.

Osprey

"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:408ecdaf.221673484@news-west.newscene.com...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:10:34 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <408c1efc.176950562@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate
> ><cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:14:45 -0700, David Barnes <pass@dbarnes.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <ba696799.0404172100.55514e55@posting.google.com >, keith
> >> ><keithj43@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> d_saettele@yahoo.com (Dan Saettele) wrote in message
> >> >> news:<94d8f635.0404171441.326bfda8@posting.google. com>...
> >> >> > wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:<40806bb2$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.co m>...
> >> >> > > Tina Laitinen wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
> >> >> > > > news:<c5opd4$1a39$1@news.wplus.net>...
> >> >> > > >> http://www.madville.com/link.php?id=67909&t=15
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Trolllll..... Trolllll in the newsgroup, its a republican
> >> >> > > > Trolllll....
> >> >> > > > troollllll!!!!!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Every time somebody votes republican, the
> >> >> > > baby Jesus cries and Satan laughs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I suppose Jesus supports Kerry's stance on abortion, too. For
some
> >> >> > reason, I think Jesus might have considered murder of innocent
> >> >> > children more important than bankruptcy (and it's possible that
Bush
> >> >> > may bankrupt the country, but Kerry would bankrupt the citizens
with
> >> >> > ridiculous taxes).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> It's ridiculous to suggest that Kerry would raise taxes except to
roll
> >> >> back the tax cuts Bush targeted toward his wealthy supporters. On
the
> >> >> other hand, Bush has increased the deficit to historic highs; he
has
> >> >> taken the unprecedented step of cutting taxes during war-time, when
we
> >> >> need *more* money, not less.
> >> >>
> >> >> Keith
> >> >
> >> >Keep in mind, too, that the Republicans, with all their dishonest
> >> >--------, actually claim Kerry "increased taxes" when all he really
did
> >> >was refuse to lower them. In other words, Kerry hoped to avoid the
> >> >deficits so the Republicans claim he was raising taxes, which was a
> >> >lie.
> >>
> >> It amazes me that these supposedly fiscally aware republicans, who
> >> having gotten control went and gleefully charged up all the country's
> >> credit cards beyond all reason and are now hysterically afraid that a
> >> responsible president might be voted in, who will tell them that the
> >> their bill payment will have to go up.
> >
> >The Republican party is becoming concerned because the more responsible
> >Republicans are now criticizing Bush for his irresponsible spending.
>
>
> He didn't do it alone.

Barnes thinks he did.
You see, their excuse is...he is the one that is in the seat.
That excuse is what they use as long as the President is a Republican
IF, that President was a Democrat well then they would say that others are
responsible
MIND YOU...that they will never hold a fellow Democrat accountable