michael.white@charter.net

On Jan 30, 12:20 am, "tinak" <tina.know...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 9:42 pm, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is not a "Jeep thing" but a leaky vent hose or malfunctioning
> > evaporative emissions system. There is a filter on the charcoal cannister
> > that is worth cleaning or maybe even replacing. There may be a split hose
> > underneath. It does sound like a job for someone with a modicum of
> > mechanical knowledge. When you buy a new car, you pay through the nose for
> > something that you imagine will be trouble free. When you buy a used car,
> > you (should) get a discount for taking someone else's troubles off his
> > hands. That money properly belongs to your mechanic.
>
> > Earle
>
> > "tinak" <tina.know...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1170133167.080221.206380@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > OK, I have only had my 94 YJ for just over a week now and had nothing
> > > but problems so far. The latest being this... I filled it up totally
> > > full today and ever since then, I smell gas. Not only outside, but on
> > > the inside as well and its pretty strong!
>
> > > I had a look underneath, but it does not appear to be leaking. I can't
> > > imagine something like this is normal, or even safe. Can anyone out
> > > there tell me if they have had this problem, if this is a "Jeep thing"
> > > or if maybe recommend a quick fix? It has had enough going on in just
> > > 10 days and I don't want to have to spend a bunch of cash at the
> > > mechanic to fix it if I dont have to.
>
> > > Thanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -Hey, Thanks for the help! Do you think that one of your aforementioned
> problems would happen only on a full tank? Until I filled it right up
> today, I was not having this problem.
>
> I really hear ya on the used car thing. However, I have never had a
> vehicle that had something new go wrong everyday, from day one. So far
> everything has been relatively minor and just a matter of TLC, for the
> most part or a easy fix. However, if it continues to "nickel and
> dime" me, I'll just sell it. I just dont know enough about Jeep to
> know what is characteristic or not. This discussion group and people
> like you are really helping me to get up to speed! Thanks again for
> your help :)

I had the same problem with my '82 when I first bought it. The fill
pipes were split. Take a look there first. Otherwise, take a look at
some of the vent lines on the top of the gas tank itself. Worst case,
you'll end up dropping the tank. If you do it when your tank is
nearly empty, it should be a pretty easy job - those tanks weigh next
to nothing.

As long as you have a backup car to get you where you need to go, you
should look into buying the service manual and doing most of the work
yourself. That's about the only way to get a car much more than six
or seven years old fixed correctly. Otherwise, you run the relatively
high risk of getting a vehicle back in worse shape than when you
brought it in.

Michael

michael.white@charter.net

On Jan 30, 12:20 am, "tinak" <tina.know...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 9:42 pm, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is not a "Jeep thing" but a leaky vent hose or malfunctioning
> > evaporative emissions system. There is a filter on the charcoal cannister
> > that is worth cleaning or maybe even replacing. There may be a split hose
> > underneath. It does sound like a job for someone with a modicum of
> > mechanical knowledge. When you buy a new car, you pay through the nose for
> > something that you imagine will be trouble free. When you buy a used car,
> > you (should) get a discount for taking someone else's troubles off his
> > hands. That money properly belongs to your mechanic.
>
> > Earle
>
> > "tinak" <tina.know...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1170133167.080221.206380@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > OK, I have only had my 94 YJ for just over a week now and had nothing
> > > but problems so far. The latest being this... I filled it up totally
> > > full today and ever since then, I smell gas. Not only outside, but on
> > > the inside as well and its pretty strong!
>
> > > I had a look underneath, but it does not appear to be leaking. I can't
> > > imagine something like this is normal, or even safe. Can anyone out
> > > there tell me if they have had this problem, if this is a "Jeep thing"
> > > or if maybe recommend a quick fix? It has had enough going on in just
> > > 10 days and I don't want to have to spend a bunch of cash at the
> > > mechanic to fix it if I dont have to.
>
> > > Thanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -Hey, Thanks for the help! Do you think that one of your aforementioned
> problems would happen only on a full tank? Until I filled it right up
> today, I was not having this problem.
>
> I really hear ya on the used car thing. However, I have never had a
> vehicle that had something new go wrong everyday, from day one. So far
> everything has been relatively minor and just a matter of TLC, for the
> most part or a easy fix. However, if it continues to "nickel and
> dime" me, I'll just sell it. I just dont know enough about Jeep to
> know what is characteristic or not. This discussion group and people
> like you are really helping me to get up to speed! Thanks again for
> your help :)

I had the same problem with my '82 when I first bought it. The fill
pipes were split. Take a look there first. Otherwise, take a look at
some of the vent lines on the top of the gas tank itself. Worst case,
you'll end up dropping the tank. If you do it when your tank is
nearly empty, it should be a pretty easy job - those tanks weigh next
to nothing.

As long as you have a backup car to get you where you need to go, you
should look into buying the service manual and doing most of the work
yourself. That's about the only way to get a car much more than six
or seven years old fixed correctly. Otherwise, you run the relatively
high risk of getting a vehicle back in worse shape than when you
brought it in.

Michael

michael.white@charter.net

On Jan 30, 12:20 am, "tinak" <tina.know...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 9:42 pm, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is not a "Jeep thing" but a leaky vent hose or malfunctioning
> > evaporative emissions system. There is a filter on the charcoal cannister
> > that is worth cleaning or maybe even replacing. There may be a split hose
> > underneath. It does sound like a job for someone with a modicum of
> > mechanical knowledge. When you buy a new car, you pay through the nose for
> > something that you imagine will be trouble free. When you buy a used car,
> > you (should) get a discount for taking someone else's troubles off his
> > hands. That money properly belongs to your mechanic.
>
> > Earle
>
> > "tinak" <tina.know...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1170133167.080221.206380@a34g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > OK, I have only had my 94 YJ for just over a week now and had nothing
> > > but problems so far. The latest being this... I filled it up totally
> > > full today and ever since then, I smell gas. Not only outside, but on
> > > the inside as well and its pretty strong!
>
> > > I had a look underneath, but it does not appear to be leaking. I can't
> > > imagine something like this is normal, or even safe. Can anyone out
> > > there tell me if they have had this problem, if this is a "Jeep thing"
> > > or if maybe recommend a quick fix? It has had enough going on in just
> > > 10 days and I don't want to have to spend a bunch of cash at the
> > > mechanic to fix it if I dont have to.
>
> > > Thanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -Hey, Thanks for the help! Do you think that one of your aforementioned
> problems would happen only on a full tank? Until I filled it right up
> today, I was not having this problem.
>
> I really hear ya on the used car thing. However, I have never had a
> vehicle that had something new go wrong everyday, from day one. So far
> everything has been relatively minor and just a matter of TLC, for the
> most part or a easy fix. However, if it continues to "nickel and
> dime" me, I'll just sell it. I just dont know enough about Jeep to
> know what is characteristic or not. This discussion group and people
> like you are really helping me to get up to speed! Thanks again for
> your help :)

I had the same problem with my '82 when I first bought it. The fill
pipes were split. Take a look there first. Otherwise, take a look at
some of the vent lines on the top of the gas tank itself. Worst case,
you'll end up dropping the tank. If you do it when your tank is
nearly empty, it should be a pretty easy job - those tanks weigh next
to nothing.

As long as you have a backup car to get you where you need to go, you
should look into buying the service manual and doing most of the work
yourself. That's about the only way to get a car much more than six
or seven years old fixed correctly. Otherwise, you run the relatively
high risk of getting a vehicle back in worse shape than when you
brought it in.

Michael

bizbee

On 29 Jan 2007 22:20:48 -0800 in
<1170138048.307864.302720@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>, "tinak"
<tina.knowlan@gmail.com> graced the world with this thought:

>Do you think that one of your aforementioned
>problems would happen only on a full tank?

The problem I have on a full tank is gas leaking out of the filler
tube at the cap--and I can smell it in and out of the Jeep

bizbee

On 29 Jan 2007 22:20:48 -0800 in
<1170138048.307864.302720@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>, "tinak"
<tina.knowlan@gmail.com> graced the world with this thought:

>Do you think that one of your aforementioned
>problems would happen only on a full tank?

The problem I have on a full tank is gas leaking out of the filler
tube at the cap--and I can smell it in and out of the Jeep

bizbee

On 29 Jan 2007 22:20:48 -0800 in
<1170138048.307864.302720@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>, "tinak"
<tina.knowlan@gmail.com> graced the world with this thought:

>Do you think that one of your aforementioned
>problems would happen only on a full tank?

The problem I have on a full tank is gas leaking out of the filler
tube at the cap--and I can smell it in and out of the Jeep

bizbee

On 29 Jan 2007 22:20:48 -0800 in
<1170138048.307864.302720@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>, "tinak"
<tina.knowlan@gmail.com> graced the world with this thought:

>Do you think that one of your aforementioned
>problems would happen only on a full tank?

The problem I have on a full tank is gas leaking out of the filler
tube at the cap--and I can smell it in and out of the Jeep

Help-Slip-Franklin

I had the same problem with my '94YJ. My gas smell was mostly in the back
near the filler and seemed to be worse when I filled up (at least in my
mind). I discovered that there was a recall on the sending unit gasket on
the top of the tank so I bought one of the kits from the dealer that
included a reinforced bracket to go along with a new gasket. Dropped the
tank, listen to Michael.White about that and buy the repair manual. Turns
out it wasn't the gasket at all but the rubber lines going into and out of
the filter which is located just above the left rear tire on the inside of
the frame. Don't give up on the YJ yet, it's a good vehicle.
Good luck.
H-S-F

"tinak" <tina.knowlan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170133167.080221.206380@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, I have only had my 94 YJ for just over a week now and had nothing
> but problems so far. The latest being this... I filled it up totally
> full today and ever since then, I smell gas. Not only outside, but on
> the inside as well and its pretty strong!
>
> I had a look underneath, but it does not appear to be leaking. I can't
> imagine something like this is normal, or even safe. Can anyone out
> there tell me if they have had this problem, if this is a "Jeep thing"
> or if maybe recommend a quick fix? It has had enough going on in just
> 10 days and I don't want to have to spend a bunch of cash at the
> mechanic to fix it if I dont have to.
>
> Thanks!
>

Help-Slip-Franklin

I had the same problem with my '94YJ. My gas smell was mostly in the back
near the filler and seemed to be worse when I filled up (at least in my
mind). I discovered that there was a recall on the sending unit gasket on
the top of the tank so I bought one of the kits from the dealer that
included a reinforced bracket to go along with a new gasket. Dropped the
tank, listen to Michael.White about that and buy the repair manual. Turns
out it wasn't the gasket at all but the rubber lines going into and out of
the filter which is located just above the left rear tire on the inside of
the frame. Don't give up on the YJ yet, it's a good vehicle.
Good luck.
H-S-F

"tinak" <tina.knowlan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170133167.080221.206380@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, I have only had my 94 YJ for just over a week now and had nothing
> but problems so far. The latest being this... I filled it up totally
> full today and ever since then, I smell gas. Not only outside, but on
> the inside as well and its pretty strong!
>
> I had a look underneath, but it does not appear to be leaking. I can't
> imagine something like this is normal, or even safe. Can anyone out
> there tell me if they have had this problem, if this is a "Jeep thing"
> or if maybe recommend a quick fix? It has had enough going on in just
> 10 days and I don't want to have to spend a bunch of cash at the
> mechanic to fix it if I dont have to.
>
> Thanks!
>

Help-Slip-Franklin

I had the same problem with my '94YJ. My gas smell was mostly in the back
near the filler and seemed to be worse when I filled up (at least in my
mind). I discovered that there was a recall on the sending unit gasket on
the top of the tank so I bought one of the kits from the dealer that
included a reinforced bracket to go along with a new gasket. Dropped the
tank, listen to Michael.White about that and buy the repair manual. Turns
out it wasn't the gasket at all but the rubber lines going into and out of
the filter which is located just above the left rear tire on the inside of
the frame. Don't give up on the YJ yet, it's a good vehicle.
Good luck.
H-S-F

"tinak" <tina.knowlan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170133167.080221.206380@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, I have only had my 94 YJ for just over a week now and had nothing
> but problems so far. The latest being this... I filled it up totally
> full today and ever since then, I smell gas. Not only outside, but on
> the inside as well and its pretty strong!
>
> I had a look underneath, but it does not appear to be leaking. I can't
> imagine something like this is normal, or even safe. Can anyone out
> there tell me if they have had this problem, if this is a "Jeep thing"
> or if maybe recommend a quick fix? It has had enough going on in just
> 10 days and I don't want to have to spend a bunch of cash at the
> mechanic to fix it if I dont have to.
>
> Thanks!
>