Jim85CJ

"failures of this kind for a six year old car"
Wow, people used to be THRILLED if they got 6 years out of a car... BTW,
in the states, a used car can't legally be a "lemon" (I think). Next
time, when handed lemons, make lemonade (lift it, add big mudders and
beat the ---- out of it on the trail).

lemonowner wrote:

> You make my point entirely. You seem happy, no, almost elated, to accept poor engineering, poor
> design, rip-off manufacturers. I happen to think that bills of this magnitude and failures of
> this kind for a six year old car with such a low mileage is unacceptable. You carry on grinning
> whilst being shafted by the big corps - that's ok by me.
>
>
> "trailboss" <trailbossNOSPAM@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:JRVCc.1166$OT6.1443465@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
>
>>Oh Sure....'cus everyone knows no OTHER used car EVER has problems....
>>
>>
>>
>>"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
>>news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>
>>>Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
>>>Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
>>
>>of a Jeep.
>>
>>>If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
>>
>>you were thinking of
>>
>>>buying one then please read this first:
>>>
>>>http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Mike Romain

Well, you know.....

Other than the cracked manifold and the dirty key fob, all the stuff
that went wrong seems to have been caused by incompetent 'mechanics'.

I see the quality of your european 'mechanics' seems on par with the
ones in North America.

That is not meant as a compliment to the so called 'mechanics'.

At least over here some of them are being honest and call them selves
'technicians'. If the computer don't tell them what's up, they have no
clue.

Like your 'road kill' AC technician. LOL! Uh yup, lets fill er up eh.
What, the gauge don't work? ok lets just go until things bulge. LOL!

Or the MOT guys wrecking your brakes. Still haven't figured that one
out... If they paid, you 'really' got lucky. Around here brakes wear
out at 30 k miles or less with city driving. You got 70K out of yours?
WOW!

Sorry to hear you are pissed about it. Keep your receipt for the
manifold and when the USA class action wins, you have ammunition in
Europe for the same lawsuit.

The exhaust manifold broke on my 88 Cherokee with 300K km on it. BUT,
mine was broken by a so called 'jeep mechanic'. ------- just said 'oh
they 'all' break, me putting on the front exhaust pipe had nothing to do
with it'. Ya Right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

lemonowner wrote:
>
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/

Mike Romain

Well, you know.....

Other than the cracked manifold and the dirty key fob, all the stuff
that went wrong seems to have been caused by incompetent 'mechanics'.

I see the quality of your european 'mechanics' seems on par with the
ones in North America.

That is not meant as a compliment to the so called 'mechanics'.

At least over here some of them are being honest and call them selves
'technicians'. If the computer don't tell them what's up, they have no
clue.

Like your 'road kill' AC technician. LOL! Uh yup, lets fill er up eh.
What, the gauge don't work? ok lets just go until things bulge. LOL!

Or the MOT guys wrecking your brakes. Still haven't figured that one
out... If they paid, you 'really' got lucky. Around here brakes wear
out at 30 k miles or less with city driving. You got 70K out of yours?
WOW!

Sorry to hear you are pissed about it. Keep your receipt for the
manifold and when the USA class action wins, you have ammunition in
Europe for the same lawsuit.

The exhaust manifold broke on my 88 Cherokee with 300K km on it. BUT,
mine was broken by a so called 'jeep mechanic'. ------- just said 'oh
they 'all' break, me putting on the front exhaust pipe had nothing to do
with it'. Ya Right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

lemonowner wrote:
>
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/

Mike Romain

Well, you know.....

Other than the cracked manifold and the dirty key fob, all the stuff
that went wrong seems to have been caused by incompetent 'mechanics'.

I see the quality of your european 'mechanics' seems on par with the
ones in North America.

That is not meant as a compliment to the so called 'mechanics'.

At least over here some of them are being honest and call them selves
'technicians'. If the computer don't tell them what's up, they have no
clue.

Like your 'road kill' AC technician. LOL! Uh yup, lets fill er up eh.
What, the gauge don't work? ok lets just go until things bulge. LOL!

Or the MOT guys wrecking your brakes. Still haven't figured that one
out... If they paid, you 'really' got lucky. Around here brakes wear
out at 30 k miles or less with city driving. You got 70K out of yours?
WOW!

Sorry to hear you are pissed about it. Keep your receipt for the
manifold and when the USA class action wins, you have ammunition in
Europe for the same lawsuit.

The exhaust manifold broke on my 88 Cherokee with 300K km on it. BUT,
mine was broken by a so called 'jeep mechanic'. ------- just said 'oh
they 'all' break, me putting on the front exhaust pipe had nothing to do
with it'. Ya Right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

lemonowner wrote:
>
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/

Mike Romain

Well, you know.....

Other than the cracked manifold and the dirty key fob, all the stuff
that went wrong seems to have been caused by incompetent 'mechanics'.

I see the quality of your european 'mechanics' seems on par with the
ones in North America.

That is not meant as a compliment to the so called 'mechanics'.

At least over here some of them are being honest and call them selves
'technicians'. If the computer don't tell them what's up, they have no
clue.

Like your 'road kill' AC technician. LOL! Uh yup, lets fill er up eh.
What, the gauge don't work? ok lets just go until things bulge. LOL!

Or the MOT guys wrecking your brakes. Still haven't figured that one
out... If they paid, you 'really' got lucky. Around here brakes wear
out at 30 k miles or less with city driving. You got 70K out of yours?
WOW!

Sorry to hear you are pissed about it. Keep your receipt for the
manifold and when the USA class action wins, you have ammunition in
Europe for the same lawsuit.

The exhaust manifold broke on my 88 Cherokee with 300K km on it. BUT,
mine was broken by a so called 'jeep mechanic'. ------- just said 'oh
they 'all' break, me putting on the front exhaust pipe had nothing to do
with it'. Ya Right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

lemonowner wrote:
>
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/

Josh

"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>


You should hold the seller responsible, and the buyer (YOU) for that matter.
Do some research, it's common knowledge the manifolds cracked on the 4.0's.
You're at fault for buying a used car with 70k miles and expecting nothing
to go wrong. If you'd bought it new you would've been fine for many miles,
until you sold it to some poor sap without doing a lick of maintenance
yourself.

If it's that bad, sell it and buy a Honda.

J
I hope you read these replies and take some responsibility instead of
placing blame on Jeep.

Josh

"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>


You should hold the seller responsible, and the buyer (YOU) for that matter.
Do some research, it's common knowledge the manifolds cracked on the 4.0's.
You're at fault for buying a used car with 70k miles and expecting nothing
to go wrong. If you'd bought it new you would've been fine for many miles,
until you sold it to some poor sap without doing a lick of maintenance
yourself.

If it's that bad, sell it and buy a Honda.

J
I hope you read these replies and take some responsibility instead of
placing blame on Jeep.

Josh

"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>


You should hold the seller responsible, and the buyer (YOU) for that matter.
Do some research, it's common knowledge the manifolds cracked on the 4.0's.
You're at fault for buying a used car with 70k miles and expecting nothing
to go wrong. If you'd bought it new you would've been fine for many miles,
until you sold it to some poor sap without doing a lick of maintenance
yourself.

If it's that bad, sell it and buy a Honda.

J
I hope you read these replies and take some responsibility instead of
placing blame on Jeep.

Josh

"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>


You should hold the seller responsible, and the buyer (YOU) for that matter.
Do some research, it's common knowledge the manifolds cracked on the 4.0's.
You're at fault for buying a used car with 70k miles and expecting nothing
to go wrong. If you'd bought it new you would've been fine for many miles,
until you sold it to some poor sap without doing a lick of maintenance
yourself.

If it's that bad, sell it and buy a Honda.

J
I hope you read these replies and take some responsibility instead of
placing blame on Jeep.

lemonowner

Oh dear, is it any wonder that while only half the world despise the US, the rest just laugh...

"Josh" <SPAMjdunning@cadd-tech.com> wrote in message
news:UtXCc.3809$Tn3.1115@newssvr32.news.prodigy.co m...
>
> "lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
> news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> > Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
> of a Jeep.
> > If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
> you were thinking of
> > buying one then please read this first:
> >
> > http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
> >
>
>
> You should hold the seller responsible, and the buyer (YOU) for that matter.
> Do some research, it's common knowledge the manifolds cracked on the 4.0's.
> You're at fault for buying a used car with 70k miles and expecting nothing
> to go wrong. If you'd bought it new you would've been fine for many miles,
> until you sold it to some poor sap without doing a lick of maintenance
> yourself.
>
> If it's that bad, sell it and buy a Honda.
>
> J
> I hope you read these replies and take some responsibility instead of
> placing blame on Jeep.
>
>