Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>> unless you're licensed, see below.
>
> I would suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
> Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It is based on isobutane which
> is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
> burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited.

Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.

Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?

You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!

And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?

You are 'soo' far out in space.

Mike
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 

>
> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>
> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>
> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>

Mike,
Just a little tidbit of info.
When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
environment.

Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.

Spdloader

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 

>
> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>
> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>
> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>

Mike,
Just a little tidbit of info.
When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
environment.

Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.

Spdloader

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 

>
> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>
> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>
> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>

Mike,
Just a little tidbit of info.
When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
environment.

Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.

Spdloader

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 

>
> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>
> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>
> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>

Mike,
Just a little tidbit of info.
When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
environment.

Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.

Spdloader

Re: I need R-12
 

In article <2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...

<Stupid, dangerous, & deadly advice snipped>

You are FULLY INTENT on getting someone seriously injured or killed
aren't you! Every damn week people of good conscious have to jump in and
put a stop to your drivel! What the hell is wrong with you!

-----------------------------------
Snojob Follies:
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
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Re: I need R-12
 

In article <2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...

<Stupid, dangerous, & deadly advice snipped>

You are FULLY INTENT on getting someone seriously injured or killed
aren't you! Every damn week people of good conscious have to jump in and
put a stop to your drivel! What the hell is wrong with you!

-----------------------------------
Snojob Follies:
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
-----------------------------------

Re: I need R-12
 

In article <2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...

<Stupid, dangerous, & deadly advice snipped>

You are FULLY INTENT on getting someone seriously injured or killed
aren't you! Every damn week people of good conscious have to jump in and
put a stop to your drivel! What the hell is wrong with you!

-----------------------------------
Snojob Follies:
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
-----------------------------------

Re: I need R-12
 

In article <2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...

<Stupid, dangerous, & deadly advice snipped>

You are FULLY INTENT on getting someone seriously injured or killed
aren't you! Every damn week people of good conscious have to jump in and
put a stop to your drivel! What the hell is wrong with you!

-----------------------------------
Snojob Follies:
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
-----------------------------------

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 

In article <4660300f$0$4694$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com says...
>
> >
> > Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
> >
> > You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
> >
> > And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> > when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
> >
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.

Can you find a modern car today with the fuel tank in the passenger
cabin?

Can you find fuel lines running through the passenger cabing?

Do you smoke? What happens if someone lights up a cigarette with a
evaporator leaking hc's into the cabin?

Have you seen evaporators, condensers, compressors, and the passenger
cabin after a propane a/c system explosion? Its like turning your a/c
system into an IED. Its real easy for the pressures to get out of hand.
Not only do you endanger people inside the car but you also endanger
anyone working on or around the car. Especially anyone trying to service
the car. That compressor and condensor would go off like a grenade.
Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
is nothing short of stupid.