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XS11E 06-01-2007 11:10 AM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems
> in Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle
> will fill up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of
> a static spark or spark with the door light switch even and you
> would be BBQ ed.


See? "They" said smoking was dangerous! ;)

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Jeff Strickland 06-01-2007 11:31 AM

Re: I need R-12
 
Too bad, so sad.

Your requirement is illegal in the States.

Having said that, a quick search for R-12 REFRIDGERANT on eBay gave two
hits, here is one of them ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FREEZ...spagenameZWDVW





"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>



Jeff Strickland 06-01-2007 11:31 AM

Re: I need R-12
 
Too bad, so sad.

Your requirement is illegal in the States.

Having said that, a quick search for R-12 REFRIDGERANT on eBay gave two
hits, here is one of them ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FREEZ...spagenameZWDVW





"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>



Jeff Strickland 06-01-2007 11:31 AM

Re: I need R-12
 
Too bad, so sad.

Your requirement is illegal in the States.

Having said that, a quick search for R-12 REFRIDGERANT on eBay gave two
hits, here is one of them ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FREEZ...spagenameZWDVW





"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>



Jeff Strickland 06-01-2007 11:31 AM

Re: I need R-12
 
Too bad, so sad.

Your requirement is illegal in the States.

Having said that, a quick search for R-12 REFRIDGERANT on eBay gave two
hits, here is one of them ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FREEZ...spagenameZWDVW





"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>



twaldron 06-01-2007 11:44 AM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
I don't know why you're in such a tizzie over this. I use plutonium in
my a/c and it works great. As a side benefit, I can easily find my Jeep
in any parking lot at night. It's kind of a pretty greenish glow.

tw

Mike Romain wrote:
> Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
>
> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>
> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>
> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>
> You are 'soo' far out in space.


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twaldron 06-01-2007 11:44 AM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
I don't know why you're in such a tizzie over this. I use plutonium in
my a/c and it works great. As a side benefit, I can easily find my Jeep
in any parking lot at night. It's kind of a pretty greenish glow.

tw

Mike Romain wrote:
> Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
>
> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>
> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>
> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>
> You are 'soo' far out in space.


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twaldron 06-01-2007 11:44 AM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
I don't know why you're in such a tizzie over this. I use plutonium in
my a/c and it works great. As a side benefit, I can easily find my Jeep
in any parking lot at night. It's kind of a pretty greenish glow.

tw

Mike Romain wrote:
> Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
>
> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>
> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>
> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>
> You are 'soo' far out in space.


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twaldron 06-01-2007 11:44 AM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
I don't know why you're in such a tizzie over this. I use plutonium in
my a/c and it works great. As a side benefit, I can easily find my Jeep
in any parking lot at night. It's kind of a pretty greenish glow.

tw

Mike Romain wrote:
> Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
>
> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>
> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>
> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>
> You are 'soo' far out in space.


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FrankW 06-01-2007 11:51 AM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
Jet Powered Beer cooler ;-)

http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

Mike Romain wrote:
> Spdloader wrote:
>
>>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>>
>>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>>
>>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool
>>> lights when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>>

>>
>> Mike,
>> Just a little tidbit of info.
>> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made
>> A/C work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as
>> refrigerants.
>> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
>> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already
>> pressurized gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already
>> a dangerous environment.
>>
>> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his
>> nonsense, so I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up
>> an old memory.
>>
>> Spdloader
>>

>
> I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
> comment.
>
> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
> Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
> up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
> or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
>
> Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
> spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
>
> That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
> and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
>
> Mike
>



FrankW 06-01-2007 11:51 AM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
Jet Powered Beer cooler ;-)

http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

Mike Romain wrote:
> Spdloader wrote:
>
>>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>>
>>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>>
>>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool
>>> lights when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>>

>>
>> Mike,
>> Just a little tidbit of info.
>> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made
>> A/C work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as
>> refrigerants.
>> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
>> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already
>> pressurized gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already
>> a dangerous environment.
>>
>> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his
>> nonsense, so I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up
>> an old memory.
>>
>> Spdloader
>>

>
> I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
> comment.
>
> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
> Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
> up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
> or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
>
> Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
> spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
>
> That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
> and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
>
> Mike
>



FrankW 06-01-2007 11:51 AM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
Jet Powered Beer cooler ;-)

http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

Mike Romain wrote:
> Spdloader wrote:
>
>>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>>
>>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>>
>>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool
>>> lights when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>>

>>
>> Mike,
>> Just a little tidbit of info.
>> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made
>> A/C work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as
>> refrigerants.
>> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
>> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already
>> pressurized gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already
>> a dangerous environment.
>>
>> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his
>> nonsense, so I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up
>> an old memory.
>>
>> Spdloader
>>

>
> I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
> comment.
>
> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
> Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
> up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
> or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
>
> Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
> spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
>
> That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
> and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
>
> Mike
>



FrankW 06-01-2007 11:51 AM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
Jet Powered Beer cooler ;-)

http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

Mike Romain wrote:
> Spdloader wrote:
>
>>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>>
>>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>>
>>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool
>>> lights when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>>

>>
>> Mike,
>> Just a little tidbit of info.
>> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made
>> A/C work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as
>> refrigerants.
>> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
>> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already
>> pressurized gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already
>> a dangerous environment.
>>
>> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his
>> nonsense, so I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up
>> an old memory.
>>
>> Spdloader
>>

>
> I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
> comment.
>
> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
> Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
> up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
> or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
>
> Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
> spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
>
> That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
> and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
>
> Mike
>



Earle Horton 06-01-2007 11:55 AM

Re: I need R-12
 
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my
> 93 Cherokee and I dont want to retrofit it.
>

Retrofit isn't so bad. Mexico has R-12.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle



Earle Horton 06-01-2007 11:55 AM

Re: I need R-12
 
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my
> 93 Cherokee and I dont want to retrofit it.
>

Retrofit isn't so bad. Mexico has R-12.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle



Earle Horton 06-01-2007 11:55 AM

Re: I need R-12
 
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my
> 93 Cherokee and I dont want to retrofit it.
>

Retrofit isn't so bad. Mexico has R-12.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle



Earle Horton 06-01-2007 11:55 AM

Re: I need R-12
 
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my
> 93 Cherokee and I dont want to retrofit it.
>

Retrofit isn't so bad. Mexico has R-12.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle



Roy 06-01-2007 11:55 AM

Re: I need R-12
 

"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20c9fc4076390163989690@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> In article <2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com>,
> admin@snoman.com says...
>
> <Stupid, dangerous, & deadly advice snipped>
>
> You are FULLY INTENT on getting someone seriously injured or killed
> aren't you! Every damn week people of good conscious have to jump in and
> put a stop to your drivel! What the hell is wrong with you!


We just had a session with him as well at the dodge truck ng. It just sucks.

Time for the list at the dodge group, if you would. tia


> -----------------------------------
> Snojob Follies:
> SBJ: Dumb brake question
> http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
> -----------------------------------




Roy 06-01-2007 11:55 AM

Re: I need R-12
 

"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20c9fc4076390163989690@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> In article <2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com>,
> admin@snoman.com says...
>
> <Stupid, dangerous, & deadly advice snipped>
>
> You are FULLY INTENT on getting someone seriously injured or killed
> aren't you! Every damn week people of good conscious have to jump in and
> put a stop to your drivel! What the hell is wrong with you!


We just had a session with him as well at the dodge truck ng. It just sucks.

Time for the list at the dodge group, if you would. tia


> -----------------------------------
> Snojob Follies:
> SBJ: Dumb brake question
> http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
> -----------------------------------




Roy 06-01-2007 11:55 AM

Re: I need R-12
 

"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20c9fc4076390163989690@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> In article <2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com>,
> admin@snoman.com says...
>
> <Stupid, dangerous, & deadly advice snipped>
>
> You are FULLY INTENT on getting someone seriously injured or killed
> aren't you! Every damn week people of good conscious have to jump in and
> put a stop to your drivel! What the hell is wrong with you!


We just had a session with him as well at the dodge truck ng. It just sucks.

Time for the list at the dodge group, if you would. tia


> -----------------------------------
> Snojob Follies:
> SBJ: Dumb brake question
> http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
> -----------------------------------




Roy 06-01-2007 11:55 AM

Re: I need R-12
 

"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20c9fc4076390163989690@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> In article <2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com>,
> admin@snoman.com says...
>
> <Stupid, dangerous, & deadly advice snipped>
>
> You are FULLY INTENT on getting someone seriously injured or killed
> aren't you! Every damn week people of good conscious have to jump in and
> put a stop to your drivel! What the hell is wrong with you!


We just had a session with him as well at the dodge truck ng. It just sucks.

Time for the list at the dodge group, if you would. tia


> -----------------------------------
> Snojob Follies:
> SBJ: Dumb brake question
> http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
> -----------------------------------




abomb69 06-01-2007 12:13 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
damn all these responces over night, all I want to do is refill the system
with R-12, it currently still works, just isnt very cold.


"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns994264FD29CCsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131.. .
> abomb69 writes:
>
>> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon?

>
> First, http://www.epatest.com/ plus $24.95.
> Then http://search.ebay.com/r12-freon plus $15 to $30 or more per pound.
>
> Cheap and plentiful outside the USA. Take that trip to Belize! They're
> using it like water. $2/lb retail.




abomb69 06-01-2007 12:13 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
damn all these responces over night, all I want to do is refill the system
with R-12, it currently still works, just isnt very cold.


"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns994264FD29CCsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131.. .
> abomb69 writes:
>
>> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon?

>
> First, http://www.epatest.com/ plus $24.95.
> Then http://search.ebay.com/r12-freon plus $15 to $30 or more per pound.
>
> Cheap and plentiful outside the USA. Take that trip to Belize! They're
> using it like water. $2/lb retail.




abomb69 06-01-2007 12:13 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
damn all these responces over night, all I want to do is refill the system
with R-12, it currently still works, just isnt very cold.


"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns994264FD29CCsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131.. .
> abomb69 writes:
>
>> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon?

>
> First, http://www.epatest.com/ plus $24.95.
> Then http://search.ebay.com/r12-freon plus $15 to $30 or more per pound.
>
> Cheap and plentiful outside the USA. Take that trip to Belize! They're
> using it like water. $2/lb retail.




abomb69 06-01-2007 12:13 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
damn all these responces over night, all I want to do is refill the system
with R-12, it currently still works, just isnt very cold.


"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns994264FD29CCsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131.. .
> abomb69 writes:
>
>> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon?

>
> First, http://www.epatest.com/ plus $24.95.
> Then http://search.ebay.com/r12-freon plus $15 to $30 or more per pound.
>
> Cheap and plentiful outside the USA. Take that trip to Belize! They're
> using it like water. $2/lb retail.




Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:35 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.


r414b ("hot shot") is a direct drop-in and is still much cheaper than r12.

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http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:35 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.


r414b ("hot shot") is a direct drop-in and is still much cheaper than r12.

--
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http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:35 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.


r414b ("hot shot") is a direct drop-in and is still much cheaper than r12.

--
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http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:35 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0XL7i.9802$4Y.7808@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.


r414b ("hot shot") is a direct drop-in and is still much cheaper than r12.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:38 PM

Re: Re: I need R-12
 
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com...
> plain old propane works really well too.


propane is one of the most efficient refrigerants you can use......were it
not for the whole dying from the explosion from the evaporator leak thing it
would be a great recommendation. i used it myself when i was young and dumb
(17 years old or so).....wouldnt dream of it today though.

--
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http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:38 PM

Re: Re: I need R-12
 
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com...
> plain old propane works really well too.


propane is one of the most efficient refrigerants you can use......were it
not for the whole dying from the explosion from the evaporator leak thing it
would be a great recommendation. i used it myself when i was young and dumb
(17 years old or so).....wouldnt dream of it today though.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:38 PM

Re: Re: I need R-12
 
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com...
> plain old propane works really well too.


propane is one of the most efficient refrigerants you can use......were it
not for the whole dying from the explosion from the evaporator leak thing it
would be a great recommendation. i used it myself when i was young and dumb
(17 years old or so).....wouldnt dream of it today though.

--
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Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:38 PM

Re: Re: I need R-12
 
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:2p30631bfg7n8in0gav7lbl6vvhh87ipc7@4ax.com...
> plain old propane works really well too.


propane is one of the most efficient refrigerants you can use......were it
not for the whole dying from the explosion from the evaporator leak thing it
would be a great recommendation. i used it myself when i was young and dumb
(17 years old or so).....wouldnt dream of it today though.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:41 PM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4660300f$0$4694$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.


the boiling point is low making it an extremely efficient
refrigerant.....but the potential for DEATH is to high to even consider it
in this type of application. if a leak didnt exist, he wouldnt be needing
refrigerant. knowing there is a leak and even considering a combustible is
foolish at best.

--
Nathan In Montana
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http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:41 PM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4660300f$0$4694$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.


the boiling point is low making it an extremely efficient
refrigerant.....but the potential for DEATH is to high to even consider it
in this type of application. if a leak didnt exist, he wouldnt be needing
refrigerant. knowing there is a leak and even considering a combustible is
foolish at best.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:41 PM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4660300f$0$4694$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.


the boiling point is low making it an extremely efficient
refrigerant.....but the potential for DEATH is to high to even consider it
in this type of application. if a leak didnt exist, he wouldnt be needing
refrigerant. knowing there is a leak and even considering a combustible is
foolish at best.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:41 PM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4660300f$0$4694$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.


the boiling point is low making it an extremely efficient
refrigerant.....but the potential for DEATH is to high to even consider it
in this type of application. if a leak didnt exist, he wouldnt be needing
refrigerant. knowing there is a leak and even considering a combustible is
foolish at best.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:43 PM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20ca003ee2ea5ef8989691@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
> is nothing short of stupid.


thats just not true sir. while using propane in either system (for this
application) is indeed nothing short of stupid, there are many compatible
refrigerants that will work as well (and in most cases, _better_) in either
application.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:43 PM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20ca003ee2ea5ef8989691@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
> is nothing short of stupid.


thats just not true sir. while using propane in either system (for this
application) is indeed nothing short of stupid, there are many compatible
refrigerants that will work as well (and in most cases, _better_) in either
application.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 12:43 PM

Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
 
"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20ca003ee2ea5ef8989691@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
> is nothing short of stupid.


thats just not true sir. while using propane in either system (for this
application) is indeed nothing short of stupid, there are many compatible
refrigerants that will work as well (and in most cases, _better_) in either
application.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com




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