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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <3FCBD92E.AA0EBC33@kinez.net>, Bill Putney wrote:
>
> > I think z would go for the California model for "conservation" wherein
> > you legally ban the building of power generation facilities, then, when
> > the demand far outstrips the supply capacity, the price for energy goes
> > up so high that everyone turns their a.c. off because they can't afford
> > to run them - everybody wins because, once again, everyone is forced
> > down to the same level of misery - equality achieved at last. Oh one
> > catch - the people responsible aren't even allowed to finish out their
> > term due to the anger of the recipients of the benevolence of the
> > government.
>
> You forgot the best aspect. The rich elites can still afford the
> higher rates and can keep their AC on without any supply problems.
>
>
Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
This is the template one could overlay anything. Energy, Healthcare, Food,
etc., etc. Those who support Kyoto are lefties and the farther left you go,
the more strident the support for Kyoto. The "rich" are the ones one need
to be reigned in so the "poor" will have a chance.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On 01 Dec 2003 07:49 PM, Brent P posted the following:
> In article <20031201190834633-0900@news.newsguy.com>, Del Rawlins
> wrote:
>
>> We're going to pay for that eventually, and that is the main reason
>> why I try to avoid goods made in red China as much as possible.
>> Since I am a tool addict, this gets expensive. I will buy Taiwanese
>> tools if I just can't afford the US made equivalent (my JET drill
>> press is a good example of this, I couldn't even find a new American
>> made drill press) on the theory that at least Taiwan is an ally, and
>> the fact that their continued success can only **** off the
>> communists. The quality tends to be better than the stuff from the
>> mainland as well.
>
> Taiwan made stuff isn't the greatest generally but better than
> mainland china. Hong Kong is about the same as Taiwan.
>
> One common practice is to make the production tolling in taiwan
> or Hong Kong and then once there won't be any more tooling changes,
> ship the tool to mainland china for production.
So either way I am still subsidizing Red China's machine tool industry?
Krap.
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> In article <20031201190834633-0900@news.newsguy.com>, Del Rawlins
> wrote:
>
>> We're going to pay for that eventually, and that is the main reason
>> why I try to avoid goods made in red China as much as possible.
>> Since I am a tool addict, this gets expensive. I will buy Taiwanese
>> tools if I just can't afford the US made equivalent (my JET drill
>> press is a good example of this, I couldn't even find a new American
>> made drill press) on the theory that at least Taiwan is an ally, and
>> the fact that their continued success can only **** off the
>> communists. The quality tends to be better than the stuff from the
>> mainland as well.
>
> Taiwan made stuff isn't the greatest generally but better than
> mainland china. Hong Kong is about the same as Taiwan.
>
> One common practice is to make the production tolling in taiwan
> or Hong Kong and then once there won't be any more tooling changes,
> ship the tool to mainland china for production.
So either way I am still subsidizing Red China's machine tool industry?
Krap.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On 01 Dec 2003 07:49 PM, Brent P posted the following:
> In article <20031201190834633-0900@news.newsguy.com>, Del Rawlins
> wrote:
>
>> We're going to pay for that eventually, and that is the main reason
>> why I try to avoid goods made in red China as much as possible.
>> Since I am a tool addict, this gets expensive. I will buy Taiwanese
>> tools if I just can't afford the US made equivalent (my JET drill
>> press is a good example of this, I couldn't even find a new American
>> made drill press) on the theory that at least Taiwan is an ally, and
>> the fact that their continued success can only **** off the
>> communists. The quality tends to be better than the stuff from the
>> mainland as well.
>
> Taiwan made stuff isn't the greatest generally but better than
> mainland china. Hong Kong is about the same as Taiwan.
>
> One common practice is to make the production tolling in taiwan
> or Hong Kong and then once there won't be any more tooling changes,
> ship the tool to mainland china for production.
So either way I am still subsidizing Red China's machine tool industry?
Krap.
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> In article <20031201190834633-0900@news.newsguy.com>, Del Rawlins
> wrote:
>
>> We're going to pay for that eventually, and that is the main reason
>> why I try to avoid goods made in red China as much as possible.
>> Since I am a tool addict, this gets expensive. I will buy Taiwanese
>> tools if I just can't afford the US made equivalent (my JET drill
>> press is a good example of this, I couldn't even find a new American
>> made drill press) on the theory that at least Taiwan is an ally, and
>> the fact that their continued success can only **** off the
>> communists. The quality tends to be better than the stuff from the
>> mainland as well.
>
> Taiwan made stuff isn't the greatest generally but better than
> mainland china. Hong Kong is about the same as Taiwan.
>
> One common practice is to make the production tolling in taiwan
> or Hong Kong and then once there won't be any more tooling changes,
> ship the tool to mainland china for production.
So either way I am still subsidizing Red China's machine tool industry?
Krap.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On 01 Dec 2003 07:49 PM, Brent P posted the following:
> In article <20031201190834633-0900@news.newsguy.com>, Del Rawlins
> wrote:
>
>> We're going to pay for that eventually, and that is the main reason
>> why I try to avoid goods made in red China as much as possible.
>> Since I am a tool addict, this gets expensive. I will buy Taiwanese
>> tools if I just can't afford the US made equivalent (my JET drill
>> press is a good example of this, I couldn't even find a new American
>> made drill press) on the theory that at least Taiwan is an ally, and
>> the fact that their continued success can only **** off the
>> communists. The quality tends to be better than the stuff from the
>> mainland as well.
>
> Taiwan made stuff isn't the greatest generally but better than
> mainland china. Hong Kong is about the same as Taiwan.
>
> One common practice is to make the production tolling in taiwan
> or Hong Kong and then once there won't be any more tooling changes,
> ship the tool to mainland china for production.
So either way I am still subsidizing Red China's machine tool industry?
Krap.
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> In article <20031201190834633-0900@news.newsguy.com>, Del Rawlins
> wrote:
>
>> We're going to pay for that eventually, and that is the main reason
>> why I try to avoid goods made in red China as much as possible.
>> Since I am a tool addict, this gets expensive. I will buy Taiwanese
>> tools if I just can't afford the US made equivalent (my JET drill
>> press is a good example of this, I couldn't even find a new American
>> made drill press) on the theory that at least Taiwan is an ally, and
>> the fact that their continued success can only **** off the
>> communists. The quality tends to be better than the stuff from the
>> mainland as well.
>
> Taiwan made stuff isn't the greatest generally but better than
> mainland china. Hong Kong is about the same as Taiwan.
>
> One common practice is to make the production tolling in taiwan
> or Hong Kong and then once there won't be any more tooling changes,
> ship the tool to mainland china for production.
So either way I am still subsidizing Red China's machine tool industry?
Krap.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
Brent P wrote:
>
> In article <3FCBD92E.AA0EBC33@kinez.net>, Bill Putney wrote:
>
> > I think z would go for the California model for "conservation" wherein
> > you legally ban the building of power generation facilities, then, when
> > the demand far outstrips the supply capacity, the price for energy goes
> > up so high that everyone turns their a.c. off because they can't afford
> > to run them - everybody wins because, once again, everyone is forced
> > down to the same level of misery - equality achieved at last. Oh one
> > catch - the people responsible aren't even allowed to finish out their
> > term due to the anger of the recipients of the benevolence of the
> > government.
>
> You forgot the best aspect. The rich elites can still afford the
> higher rates and can keep their AC on without any supply problems.
True, true. But with a good tax/confiscation plan, you can reduce them
to a minimum. 8^)
Bill Putney
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
Brent P wrote:
>
> In article <3FCBD92E.AA0EBC33@kinez.net>, Bill Putney wrote:
>
> > I think z would go for the California model for "conservation" wherein
> > you legally ban the building of power generation facilities, then, when
> > the demand far outstrips the supply capacity, the price for energy goes
> > up so high that everyone turns their a.c. off because they can't afford
> > to run them - everybody wins because, once again, everyone is forced
> > down to the same level of misery - equality achieved at last. Oh one
> > catch - the people responsible aren't even allowed to finish out their
> > term due to the anger of the recipients of the benevolence of the
> > government.
>
> You forgot the best aspect. The rich elites can still afford the
> higher rates and can keep their AC on without any supply problems.
True, true. But with a good tax/confiscation plan, you can reduce them
to a minimum. 8^)
Bill Putney
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address with "x")
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
Brent P wrote:
>
> In article <3FCBD92E.AA0EBC33@kinez.net>, Bill Putney wrote:
>
> > I think z would go for the California model for "conservation" wherein
> > you legally ban the building of power generation facilities, then, when
> > the demand far outstrips the supply capacity, the price for energy goes
> > up so high that everyone turns their a.c. off because they can't afford
> > to run them - everybody wins because, once again, everyone is forced
> > down to the same level of misery - equality achieved at last. Oh one
> > catch - the people responsible aren't even allowed to finish out their
> > term due to the anger of the recipients of the benevolence of the
> > government.
>
> You forgot the best aspect. The rich elites can still afford the
> higher rates and can keep their AC on without any supply problems.
True, true. But with a good tax/confiscation plan, you can reduce them
to a minimum. 8^)
Bill Putney
(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with "x")
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <3FCB6955.4BEDFC55@mindspring.com>,
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> OK, forget manufacturing for a moment and concentrate on consumer use of
>> energy and production of CO2. We're very wasteful in this country, by
>> comparison with any other country.
>
>Well you don't even have this right. Canada has a much higher per capita
energy
>consumption than the US.
>
>Ed
>
Not as of 1997 at least. The only nations higher than the US are Qatar,
Bahrain, UAE, Netherlands, Kuwait, and Luxembourg.
(from http://www.earthtrends.wri.org/text/...iables/351.htm)
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> OK, forget manufacturing for a moment and concentrate on consumer use of
>> energy and production of CO2. We're very wasteful in this country, by
>> comparison with any other country.
>
>Well you don't even have this right. Canada has a much higher per capita
energy
>consumption than the US.
>
>Ed
>
Not as of 1997 at least. The only nations higher than the US are Qatar,
Bahrain, UAE, Netherlands, Kuwait, and Luxembourg.
(from http://www.earthtrends.wri.org/text/...iables/351.htm)
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <3FCB6955.4BEDFC55@mindspring.com>,
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> OK, forget manufacturing for a moment and concentrate on consumer use of
>> energy and production of CO2. We're very wasteful in this country, by
>> comparison with any other country.
>
>Well you don't even have this right. Canada has a much higher per capita
energy
>consumption than the US.
>
>Ed
>
Not as of 1997 at least. The only nations higher than the US are Qatar,
Bahrain, UAE, Netherlands, Kuwait, and Luxembourg.
(from http://www.earthtrends.wri.org/text/...iables/351.htm)
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> OK, forget manufacturing for a moment and concentrate on consumer use of
>> energy and production of CO2. We're very wasteful in this country, by
>> comparison with any other country.
>
>Well you don't even have this right. Canada has a much higher per capita
energy
>consumption than the US.
>
>Ed
>
Not as of 1997 at least. The only nations higher than the US are Qatar,
Bahrain, UAE, Netherlands, Kuwait, and Luxembourg.
(from http://www.earthtrends.wri.org/text/...iables/351.htm)
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <3FCB6955.4BEDFC55@mindspring.com>,
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> OK, forget manufacturing for a moment and concentrate on consumer use of
>> energy and production of CO2. We're very wasteful in this country, by
>> comparison with any other country.
>
>Well you don't even have this right. Canada has a much higher per capita
energy
>consumption than the US.
>
>Ed
>
Not as of 1997 at least. The only nations higher than the US are Qatar,
Bahrain, UAE, Netherlands, Kuwait, and Luxembourg.
(from http://www.earthtrends.wri.org/text/...iables/351.htm)
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> OK, forget manufacturing for a moment and concentrate on consumer use of
>> energy and production of CO2. We're very wasteful in this country, by
>> comparison with any other country.
>
>Well you don't even have this right. Canada has a much higher per capita
energy
>consumption than the US.
>
>Ed
>
Not as of 1997 at least. The only nations higher than the US are Qatar,
Bahrain, UAE, Netherlands, Kuwait, and Luxembourg.
(from http://www.earthtrends.wri.org/text/...iables/351.htm)