Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
#251
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Chris Phillipo <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> I really should have known what with all the x-posted groups that this
>> would be yet another "SUVs REALLY REALLY are safe, 'cause the salesman
>> told me so!" thread and should have bitten my tongue. Fingers. Whatever.
>
>I knew it was going to be another SUVs are not safe because CR told me
>so thread. I'm biting my sandwich.
Right. CR, the IIHS, the NHTSA, FARS, and every other place that crashes
vehicles or keeps stats. But then, don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Marc
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>> I really should have known what with all the x-posted groups that this
>> would be yet another "SUVs REALLY REALLY are safe, 'cause the salesman
>> told me so!" thread and should have bitten my tongue. Fingers. Whatever.
>
>I knew it was going to be another SUVs are not safe because CR told me
>so thread. I'm biting my sandwich.
Right. CR, the IIHS, the NHTSA, FARS, and every other place that crashes
vehicles or keeps stats. But then, don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
#252
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Chris Phillipo <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> I really should have known what with all the x-posted groups that this
>> would be yet another "SUVs REALLY REALLY are safe, 'cause the salesman
>> told me so!" thread and should have bitten my tongue. Fingers. Whatever.
>
>I knew it was going to be another SUVs are not safe because CR told me
>so thread. I'm biting my sandwich.
Right. CR, the IIHS, the NHTSA, FARS, and every other place that crashes
vehicles or keeps stats. But then, don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>> I really should have known what with all the x-posted groups that this
>> would be yet another "SUVs REALLY REALLY are safe, 'cause the salesman
>> told me so!" thread and should have bitten my tongue. Fingers. Whatever.
>
>I knew it was going to be another SUVs are not safe because CR told me
>so thread. I'm biting my sandwich.
Right. CR, the IIHS, the NHTSA, FARS, and every other place that crashes
vehicles or keeps stats. But then, don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
#253
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Chris Phillipo <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> I really should have known what with all the x-posted groups that this
>> would be yet another "SUVs REALLY REALLY are safe, 'cause the salesman
>> told me so!" thread and should have bitten my tongue. Fingers. Whatever.
>
>I knew it was going to be another SUVs are not safe because CR told me
>so thread. I'm biting my sandwich.
Right. CR, the IIHS, the NHTSA, FARS, and every other place that crashes
vehicles or keeps stats. But then, don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>> I really should have known what with all the x-posted groups that this
>> would be yet another "SUVs REALLY REALLY are safe, 'cause the salesman
>> told me so!" thread and should have bitten my tongue. Fingers. Whatever.
>
>I knew it was going to be another SUVs are not safe because CR told me
>so thread. I'm biting my sandwich.
Right. CR, the IIHS, the NHTSA, FARS, and every other place that crashes
vehicles or keeps stats. But then, don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
>If you think you can avoid accidents because you think that you can
>predict what other drivers are going to do then you are even more
>hopelessly clueless than your other posts indicate.
Then I guess everyone that teaches defensive driving should just give up,
as all crashes are inevitable and we should just drive tanks and put on our
blinders.
Marc
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>If you think you can avoid accidents because you think that you can
>predict what other drivers are going to do then you are even more
>hopelessly clueless than your other posts indicate.
Then I guess everyone that teaches defensive driving should just give up,
as all crashes are inevitable and we should just drive tanks and put on our
blinders.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
>If you think you can avoid accidents because you think that you can
>predict what other drivers are going to do then you are even more
>hopelessly clueless than your other posts indicate.
Then I guess everyone that teaches defensive driving should just give up,
as all crashes are inevitable and we should just drive tanks and put on our
blinders.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>If you think you can avoid accidents because you think that you can
>predict what other drivers are going to do then you are even more
>hopelessly clueless than your other posts indicate.
Then I guess everyone that teaches defensive driving should just give up,
as all crashes are inevitable and we should just drive tanks and put on our
blinders.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
>If you think you can avoid accidents because you think that you can
>predict what other drivers are going to do then you are even more
>hopelessly clueless than your other posts indicate.
Then I guess everyone that teaches defensive driving should just give up,
as all crashes are inevitable and we should just drive tanks and put on our
blinders.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>If you think you can avoid accidents because you think that you can
>predict what other drivers are going to do then you are even more
>hopelessly clueless than your other posts indicate.
Then I guess everyone that teaches defensive driving should just give up,
as all crashes are inevitable and we should just drive tanks and put on our
blinders.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
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> CAFE has effectively limited the weight of passenger vehicles. CAFE has
> been shown to cost lives for exactly this reason.
This may be true, but CAFE has also saved lives, because forcing vehicles
to use less fuel helps to reduce pollution, and thus fewer people dying each
year
as a result of pollution-related illnesses. Most likely the lives lost by
one
thing are balanced by the other.
Ted
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0310171205180.4904->
> CAFE has effectively limited the weight of passenger vehicles. CAFE has
> been shown to cost lives for exactly this reason.
This may be true, but CAFE has also saved lives, because forcing vehicles
to use less fuel helps to reduce pollution, and thus fewer people dying each
year
as a result of pollution-related illnesses. Most likely the lives lost by
one
thing are balanced by the other.
Ted
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0310171205180.4904->
> CAFE has effectively limited the weight of passenger vehicles. CAFE has
> been shown to cost lives for exactly this reason.
This may be true, but CAFE has also saved lives, because forcing vehicles
to use less fuel helps to reduce pollution, and thus fewer people dying each
year
as a result of pollution-related illnesses. Most likely the lives lost by
one
thing are balanced by the other.
Ted
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Marc wrote:
> ...I've read multiple places that the best correlation to
> safety is not even weight, but cost. That is a small car that is expensive
> is safer (according to real world crash data that they evaluated) than a
> larger, but cheaper vehicle.
So does that mean that when we negotiate for a vehicle, that we should
try to negotatie the price *upward* instead of downward to make it
safer? 8^)
Bill Putney
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