Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
10-23-2003, 08:17 PM
#1911
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Bill Funk wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:28:42 -0400, "rickety"
> <ricklugg@knickers.iname.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Kevin wrote:
>>
>>>RJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>RJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Remember the days when you could buy a wagon and expect to haul
>>>>>>>plywood and tow a trailer with it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. No 4x4 (a factor wherever it snows)
>>>>>>2. Those old beasts delivered around 12 mpg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you claim that point 2 is negated by modern technology,
>>>>>>everything I've seen with seriously higher gas mileage is front
>>>>>>wheel drive and is therefore worthless as a towing vehicle.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's not the fault of "passenger cars" per se, it's the fault of
>>>>>CAFE which has killed the full sized car as we once knew it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The only true full size car left is the Crown Vic. Still rear wheel
>>>
>>> dirve with steel frame. Big fan, and heavy enough to keep you alive.
>>
>>istr that the story is when they are hit from the rear the fuel tank is
>>prone to rupture and ignite the spillage. Kind of like a big Pinto.
>
>
> They need to be hit pretty hard.
> Like at a closing speed of more that 40 mph, IIRC.
>
Nothing a fire bottle system cant cure.
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:28:42 -0400, "rickety"
> <ricklugg@knickers.iname.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Kevin wrote:
>>
>>>RJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>RJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Remember the days when you could buy a wagon and expect to haul
>>>>>>>plywood and tow a trailer with it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. No 4x4 (a factor wherever it snows)
>>>>>>2. Those old beasts delivered around 12 mpg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you claim that point 2 is negated by modern technology,
>>>>>>everything I've seen with seriously higher gas mileage is front
>>>>>>wheel drive and is therefore worthless as a towing vehicle.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's not the fault of "passenger cars" per se, it's the fault of
>>>>>CAFE which has killed the full sized car as we once knew it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The only true full size car left is the Crown Vic. Still rear wheel
>>>
>>> dirve with steel frame. Big fan, and heavy enough to keep you alive.
>>
>>istr that the story is when they are hit from the rear the fuel tank is
>>prone to rupture and ignite the spillage. Kind of like a big Pinto.
>
>
> They need to be hit pretty hard.
> Like at a closing speed of more that 40 mph, IIRC.
>
Nothing a fire bottle system cant cure.
10-23-2003, 08:17 PM
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Bill Funk wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:28:42 -0400, "rickety"
> <ricklugg@knickers.iname.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Kevin wrote:
>>
>>>RJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>RJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Remember the days when you could buy a wagon and expect to haul
>>>>>>>plywood and tow a trailer with it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. No 4x4 (a factor wherever it snows)
>>>>>>2. Those old beasts delivered around 12 mpg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you claim that point 2 is negated by modern technology,
>>>>>>everything I've seen with seriously higher gas mileage is front
>>>>>>wheel drive and is therefore worthless as a towing vehicle.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's not the fault of "passenger cars" per se, it's the fault of
>>>>>CAFE which has killed the full sized car as we once knew it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The only true full size car left is the Crown Vic. Still rear wheel
>>>
>>> dirve with steel frame. Big fan, and heavy enough to keep you alive.
>>
>>istr that the story is when they are hit from the rear the fuel tank is
>>prone to rupture and ignite the spillage. Kind of like a big Pinto.
>
>
> They need to be hit pretty hard.
> Like at a closing speed of more that 40 mph, IIRC.
>
Nothing a fire bottle system cant cure.
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:28:42 -0400, "rickety"
> <ricklugg@knickers.iname.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Kevin wrote:
>>
>>>RJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>RJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Remember the days when you could buy a wagon and expect to haul
>>>>>>>plywood and tow a trailer with it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. No 4x4 (a factor wherever it snows)
>>>>>>2. Those old beasts delivered around 12 mpg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you claim that point 2 is negated by modern technology,
>>>>>>everything I've seen with seriously higher gas mileage is front
>>>>>>wheel drive and is therefore worthless as a towing vehicle.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's not the fault of "passenger cars" per se, it's the fault of
>>>>>CAFE which has killed the full sized car as we once knew it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The only true full size car left is the Crown Vic. Still rear wheel
>>>
>>> dirve with steel frame. Big fan, and heavy enough to keep you alive.
>>
>>istr that the story is when they are hit from the rear the fuel tank is
>>prone to rupture and ignite the spillage. Kind of like a big Pinto.
>
>
> They need to be hit pretty hard.
> Like at a closing speed of more that 40 mph, IIRC.
>
Nothing a fire bottle system cant cure.
10-23-2003, 09:17 PM
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
> > You can't do it because there are none on your side. It's like someone
> > claiming there are facts supporting creationism.
>
> Or spontaneous emergence from the primordial soup.
>
Well at least that doesn't stretch credibility beyond the breaking
oint. -Dave
> > claiming there are facts supporting creationism.
>
> Or spontaneous emergence from the primordial soup.
>
Well at least that doesn't stretch credibility beyond the breaking
oint. -Dave
10-23-2003, 09:17 PM
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
> > You can't do it because there are none on your side. It's like someone
> > claiming there are facts supporting creationism.
>
> Or spontaneous emergence from the primordial soup.
>
Well at least that doesn't stretch credibility beyond the breaking
oint. -Dave
> > claiming there are facts supporting creationism.
>
> Or spontaneous emergence from the primordial soup.
>
Well at least that doesn't stretch credibility beyond the breaking
oint. -Dave
10-23-2003, 09:17 PM
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
> > You can't do it because there are none on your side. It's like someone
> > claiming there are facts supporting creationism.
>
> Or spontaneous emergence from the primordial soup.
>
Well at least that doesn't stretch credibility beyond the breaking
oint. -Dave
> > claiming there are facts supporting creationism.
>
> Or spontaneous emergence from the primordial soup.
>
Well at least that doesn't stretch credibility beyond the breaking
oint. -Dave
10-23-2003, 09:32 PM
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Dave C. wrote:
>>Subaru.
>>
>>nate
>
>
> Already answered by more than one poster. Too small to be considered a good
> value. -Dave
>
>
How big of a car do you need? The Legacy is downright cavernous, at
least from my small-car-loving perspective.
nate
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>>Subaru.
>>
>>nate
>
>
> Already answered by more than one poster. Too small to be considered a good
> value. -Dave
>
>
How big of a car do you need? The Legacy is downright cavernous, at
least from my small-car-loving perspective.
nate
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remove "horny" from my email address to reply.
http://www.toad.net/~njnagel
10-23-2003, 09:32 PM
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Dave C. wrote:
>>Subaru.
>>
>>nate
>
>
> Already answered by more than one poster. Too small to be considered a good
> value. -Dave
>
>
How big of a car do you need? The Legacy is downright cavernous, at
least from my small-car-loving perspective.
nate
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remove "horny" from my email address to reply.
http://www.toad.net/~njnagel
>>Subaru.
>>
>>nate
>
>
> Already answered by more than one poster. Too small to be considered a good
> value. -Dave
>
>
How big of a car do you need? The Legacy is downright cavernous, at
least from my small-car-loving perspective.
nate
--
remove "horny" from my email address to reply.
http://www.toad.net/~njnagel