Howell or Mopar EFI
09-12-2003, 10:44 AM
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Howell or Mopar EFI
Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter carb
with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any good?
If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
Dan Ferrell
84 CJ7
with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any good?
If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
Dan Ferrell
84 CJ7
09-12-2003, 10:52 AM
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Re: Howell or Mopar EFI
Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
See:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter carb
> with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
> Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any good?
> If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
See:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter carb
> with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
> Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any good?
> If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
09-12-2003, 10:52 AM
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Re: Howell or Mopar EFI
Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
See:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter carb
> with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
> Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any good?
> If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
See:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter carb
> with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
> Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any good?
> If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
09-12-2003, 06:45 PM
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Re: Howell or Mopar EFI
What are your readings?
Mike
Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Did the nutter bypass long before the new carb. they said at the shop that
> they had to "tweak" my timing last year to make it pass, and this year it
> failed again. Even put a smaller jet in the weber carb to cut down on the
> fuel, but she still fails.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F61DDBB.831B8C06@sympatico.ca...
> > Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
> >
> > If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
> > timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
> >
> > See:
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Dan Ferrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter
> carb
> > > with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
> > > Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any
> good?
> > > If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
> > >
> > > Dan Ferrell
> > > 84 CJ7
Mike
Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Did the nutter bypass long before the new carb. they said at the shop that
> they had to "tweak" my timing last year to make it pass, and this year it
> failed again. Even put a smaller jet in the weber carb to cut down on the
> fuel, but she still fails.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F61DDBB.831B8C06@sympatico.ca...
> > Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
> >
> > If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
> > timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
> >
> > See:
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Dan Ferrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter
> carb
> > > with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
> > > Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any
> good?
> > > If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
> > >
> > > Dan Ferrell
> > > 84 CJ7
09-12-2003, 06:45 PM
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Re: Howell or Mopar EFI
What are your readings?
Mike
Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Did the nutter bypass long before the new carb. they said at the shop that
> they had to "tweak" my timing last year to make it pass, and this year it
> failed again. Even put a smaller jet in the weber carb to cut down on the
> fuel, but she still fails.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F61DDBB.831B8C06@sympatico.ca...
> > Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
> >
> > If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
> > timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
> >
> > See:
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Dan Ferrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter
> carb
> > > with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
> > > Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any
> good?
> > > If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
> > >
> > > Dan Ferrell
> > > 84 CJ7
Mike
Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Did the nutter bypass long before the new carb. they said at the shop that
> they had to "tweak" my timing last year to make it pass, and this year it
> failed again. Even put a smaller jet in the weber carb to cut down on the
> fuel, but she still fails.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F61DDBB.831B8C06@sympatico.ca...
> > Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
> >
> > If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
> > timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
> >
> > See:
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Dan Ferrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter
> carb
> > > with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for EFI.
> > > Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any
> good?
> > > If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
> > >
> > > Dan Ferrell
> > > 84 CJ7
09-15-2003, 01:47 PM
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Re: Howell or Mopar EFI
Dan,
I have an 85 CJ7 with the 258. The friend I bought it from installed the
Howell Inj & I LOVE IT ! It works great and solves many of the problems
associated with the carbs. Not only has the performance & efficiency
increased but it runs a lot cleaner as well (I'm in California and we have
pretty strict smog requirements).
In fact, I just got back from a trip to the Rubicon this weekend. I live in
the Bay Area so there is a 5,000 to 6,000 foot difference in elevation
between my home and the Rubicon. When I had a carb, I would typically have
to adjust it for the diff in elevation and it would still load up. With the
injection, it runs seamlessly. It does great off road. Maintains a steady
idle and has a responsive throttle. I also get great mileage (for a Jeep
anyway).
In terms of comparing Howell to Mopar - they're both good. I know guys that
have the Mopar and love it. I think you'll be happy with either.
Hope this helps......
John
"Dan Ferrell" <dkf92@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1Ur8b.477$fm2.203@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> Did the nutter bypass long before the new carb. they said at the shop
that
> they had to "tweak" my timing last year to make it pass, and this year it
> failed again. Even put a smaller jet in the weber carb to cut down on the
> fuel, but she still fails.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F61DDBB.831B8C06@sympatico.ca...
> > Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
> >
> > If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
> > timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
> >
> > See:
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Dan Ferrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter
> carb
> > > with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for
EFI.
> > > Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any
> good?
> > > If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
> > >
> > > Dan Ferrell
> > > 84 CJ7
>
>
I have an 85 CJ7 with the 258. The friend I bought it from installed the
Howell Inj & I LOVE IT ! It works great and solves many of the problems
associated with the carbs. Not only has the performance & efficiency
increased but it runs a lot cleaner as well (I'm in California and we have
pretty strict smog requirements).
In fact, I just got back from a trip to the Rubicon this weekend. I live in
the Bay Area so there is a 5,000 to 6,000 foot difference in elevation
between my home and the Rubicon. When I had a carb, I would typically have
to adjust it for the diff in elevation and it would still load up. With the
injection, it runs seamlessly. It does great off road. Maintains a steady
idle and has a responsive throttle. I also get great mileage (for a Jeep
anyway).
In terms of comparing Howell to Mopar - they're both good. I know guys that
have the Mopar and love it. I think you'll be happy with either.
Hope this helps......
John
"Dan Ferrell" <dkf92@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1Ur8b.477$fm2.203@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> Did the nutter bypass long before the new carb. they said at the shop
that
> they had to "tweak" my timing last year to make it pass, and this year it
> failed again. Even put a smaller jet in the weber carb to cut down on the
> fuel, but she still fails.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F61DDBB.831B8C06@sympatico.ca...
> > Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
> >
> > If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
> > timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
> >
> > See:
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Dan Ferrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter
> carb
> > > with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for
EFI.
> > > Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any
> good?
> > > If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
> > >
> > > Dan Ferrell
> > > 84 CJ7
>
>
09-15-2003, 01:47 PM
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Re: Howell or Mopar EFI
Dan,
I have an 85 CJ7 with the 258. The friend I bought it from installed the
Howell Inj & I LOVE IT ! It works great and solves many of the problems
associated with the carbs. Not only has the performance & efficiency
increased but it runs a lot cleaner as well (I'm in California and we have
pretty strict smog requirements).
In fact, I just got back from a trip to the Rubicon this weekend. I live in
the Bay Area so there is a 5,000 to 6,000 foot difference in elevation
between my home and the Rubicon. When I had a carb, I would typically have
to adjust it for the diff in elevation and it would still load up. With the
injection, it runs seamlessly. It does great off road. Maintains a steady
idle and has a responsive throttle. I also get great mileage (for a Jeep
anyway).
In terms of comparing Howell to Mopar - they're both good. I know guys that
have the Mopar and love it. I think you'll be happy with either.
Hope this helps......
John
"Dan Ferrell" <dkf92@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1Ur8b.477$fm2.203@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> Did the nutter bypass long before the new carb. they said at the shop
that
> they had to "tweak" my timing last year to make it pass, and this year it
> failed again. Even put a smaller jet in the weber carb to cut down on the
> fuel, but she still fails.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F61DDBB.831B8C06@sympatico.ca...
> > Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
> >
> > If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
> > timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
> >
> > See:
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Dan Ferrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter
> carb
> > > with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for
EFI.
> > > Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any
> good?
> > > If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
> > >
> > > Dan Ferrell
> > > 84 CJ7
>
>
I have an 85 CJ7 with the 258. The friend I bought it from installed the
Howell Inj & I LOVE IT ! It works great and solves many of the problems
associated with the carbs. Not only has the performance & efficiency
increased but it runs a lot cleaner as well (I'm in California and we have
pretty strict smog requirements).
In fact, I just got back from a trip to the Rubicon this weekend. I live in
the Bay Area so there is a 5,000 to 6,000 foot difference in elevation
between my home and the Rubicon. When I had a carb, I would typically have
to adjust it for the diff in elevation and it would still load up. With the
injection, it runs seamlessly. It does great off road. Maintains a steady
idle and has a responsive throttle. I also get great mileage (for a Jeep
anyway).
In terms of comparing Howell to Mopar - they're both good. I know guys that
have the Mopar and love it. I think you'll be happy with either.
Hope this helps......
John
"Dan Ferrell" <dkf92@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1Ur8b.477$fm2.203@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> Did the nutter bypass long before the new carb. they said at the shop
that
> they had to "tweak" my timing last year to make it pass, and this year it
> failed again. Even put a smaller jet in the weber carb to cut down on the
> fuel, but she still fails.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ7
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F61DDBB.831B8C06@sympatico.ca...
> > Did you disable the computer when you swapped carbs?
> >
> > If not, it has gone into 'limp home' mode and has clamped down on the
> > timing and it is very unlikely you can pass emissions this way.
> >
> > See:
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Dan Ferrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't get the 84 CJ to pass emmissions testing. Replaced the carter
> carb
> > > with the weber and its close but still fails. think I'm going for
EFI.
> > > Torn between Howell and Mopar. Howell is much cheaper, but is it any
> good?
> > > If anyone has put one on I would like to hear about it.
> > >
> > > Dan Ferrell
> > > 84 CJ7
>
>
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