How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
#81
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Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
can you say briggs and straton
Jerry McG wrote:
> "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> is
> > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> time
> > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> the
> > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> >
> > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> >
> > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
Jerry McG wrote:
> "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> is
> > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> time
> > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> the
> > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> >
> > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> >
> > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
#82
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Posts: n/a
Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
me that....
I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
4 banger under the hood.
They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
all off road.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
mic canic wrote:
>
> can you say briggs and straton
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> > news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> > is
> > > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> > time
> > > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> > the
> > > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> > >
> > > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> > >
> > > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> > built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> > fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
me that....
I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
4 banger under the hood.
They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
all off road.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
mic canic wrote:
>
> can you say briggs and straton
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> > news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> > is
> > > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> > time
> > > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> > the
> > > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> > >
> > > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> > >
> > > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> > built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> > fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
#83
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Posts: n/a
Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
me that....
I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
4 banger under the hood.
They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
all off road.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
mic canic wrote:
>
> can you say briggs and straton
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> > news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> > is
> > > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> > time
> > > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> > the
> > > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> > >
> > > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> > >
> > > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> > built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> > fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
me that....
I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
4 banger under the hood.
They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
all off road.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
mic canic wrote:
>
> can you say briggs and straton
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> > news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> > is
> > > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> > time
> > > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> > the
> > > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> > >
> > > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> > >
> > > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> > built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> > fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
#84
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Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
me that....
I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
4 banger under the hood.
They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
all off road.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
mic canic wrote:
>
> can you say briggs and straton
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> > news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> > is
> > > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> > time
> > > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> > the
> > > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> > >
> > > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> > >
> > > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> > built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> > fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
me that....
I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
4 banger under the hood.
They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
all off road.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
mic canic wrote:
>
> can you say briggs and straton
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> > news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> > is
> > > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> > time
> > > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> > the
> > > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> > >
> > > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> > >
> > > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> > built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> > fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
#85
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Posts: n/a
Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
me that....
I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
4 banger under the hood.
They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
all off road.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
mic canic wrote:
>
> can you say briggs and straton
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> > news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> > is
> > > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> > time
> > > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> > the
> > > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> > >
> > > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> > >
> > > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> > built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> > fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
me that....
I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
4 banger under the hood.
They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
all off road.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
mic canic wrote:
>
> can you say briggs and straton
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
> > news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..
> > > Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
> > is
> > > she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
> > time
> > > to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
> > the
> > > Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
> > > one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
> > >
> > > It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
> > > plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
> > > cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
> > >
> > > So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
> > built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
> > fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
#86
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Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
I've had both. My '85 CJ7 (purchased with 900 miles on it) had a 4 cyl.
with a 4spd tranny, and it was pretty gutless on the hwy, if loaded.
Two people and a touch of camping gear kept me in third gear on any
incline at hwy speeds. I'm not saying I'd NEVER buy a 4 banger again,
but it would have to be a pretty sweet 4 cyl. CJ to steer me away from
the 6 cyls. Wrangler? Fuggedaboudit! Too many nice six cyl. Wranglers
around to mess with 4 bangers. JMHO.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
>>can you say briggs and straton
>>
>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>>
>>>>Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>>to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
>>>>one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
>>>>
>>>>It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
>>>>plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
>>>>cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
>>>>
>>>>So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
>>>built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
>>>fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
with a 4spd tranny, and it was pretty gutless on the hwy, if loaded.
Two people and a touch of camping gear kept me in third gear on any
incline at hwy speeds. I'm not saying I'd NEVER buy a 4 banger again,
but it would have to be a pretty sweet 4 cyl. CJ to steer me away from
the 6 cyls. Wrangler? Fuggedaboudit! Too many nice six cyl. Wranglers
around to mess with 4 bangers. JMHO.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
>>can you say briggs and straton
>>
>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>>
>>>>Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>>to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
>>>>one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
>>>>
>>>>It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
>>>>plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
>>>>cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
>>>>
>>>>So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
>>>built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
>>>fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
#87
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Posts: n/a
Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
I've had both. My '85 CJ7 (purchased with 900 miles on it) had a 4 cyl.
with a 4spd tranny, and it was pretty gutless on the hwy, if loaded.
Two people and a touch of camping gear kept me in third gear on any
incline at hwy speeds. I'm not saying I'd NEVER buy a 4 banger again,
but it would have to be a pretty sweet 4 cyl. CJ to steer me away from
the 6 cyls. Wrangler? Fuggedaboudit! Too many nice six cyl. Wranglers
around to mess with 4 bangers. JMHO.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
>>can you say briggs and straton
>>
>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>>
>>>>Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>>to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
>>>>one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
>>>>
>>>>It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
>>>>plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
>>>>cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
>>>>
>>>>So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
>>>built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
>>>fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
with a 4spd tranny, and it was pretty gutless on the hwy, if loaded.
Two people and a touch of camping gear kept me in third gear on any
incline at hwy speeds. I'm not saying I'd NEVER buy a 4 banger again,
but it would have to be a pretty sweet 4 cyl. CJ to steer me away from
the 6 cyls. Wrangler? Fuggedaboudit! Too many nice six cyl. Wranglers
around to mess with 4 bangers. JMHO.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
>>can you say briggs and straton
>>
>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>>
>>>>Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>>to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
>>>>one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
>>>>
>>>>It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
>>>>plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
>>>>cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
>>>>
>>>>So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
>>>built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
>>>fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#88
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Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
I've had both. My '85 CJ7 (purchased with 900 miles on it) had a 4 cyl.
with a 4spd tranny, and it was pretty gutless on the hwy, if loaded.
Two people and a touch of camping gear kept me in third gear on any
incline at hwy speeds. I'm not saying I'd NEVER buy a 4 banger again,
but it would have to be a pretty sweet 4 cyl. CJ to steer me away from
the 6 cyls. Wrangler? Fuggedaboudit! Too many nice six cyl. Wranglers
around to mess with 4 bangers. JMHO.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
>>can you say briggs and straton
>>
>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>>
>>>>Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>>to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
>>>>one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
>>>>
>>>>It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
>>>>plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
>>>>cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
>>>>
>>>>So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
>>>built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
>>>fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
--
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tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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with a 4spd tranny, and it was pretty gutless on the hwy, if loaded.
Two people and a touch of camping gear kept me in third gear on any
incline at hwy speeds. I'm not saying I'd NEVER buy a 4 banger again,
but it would have to be a pretty sweet 4 cyl. CJ to steer me away from
the 6 cyls. Wrangler? Fuggedaboudit! Too many nice six cyl. Wranglers
around to mess with 4 bangers. JMHO.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
>>can you say briggs and straton
>>
>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>>
>>>>Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>>to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
>>>>one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
>>>>
>>>>It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
>>>>plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
>>>>cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
>>>>
>>>>So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
>>>built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
>>>fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
I've had both. My '85 CJ7 (purchased with 900 miles on it) had a 4 cyl.
with a 4spd tranny, and it was pretty gutless on the hwy, if loaded.
Two people and a touch of camping gear kept me in third gear on any
incline at hwy speeds. I'm not saying I'd NEVER buy a 4 banger again,
but it would have to be a pretty sweet 4 cyl. CJ to steer me away from
the 6 cyls. Wrangler? Fuggedaboudit! Too many nice six cyl. Wranglers
around to mess with 4 bangers. JMHO.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
>>can you say briggs and straton
>>
>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>>
>>>>Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>>to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
>>>>one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
>>>>
>>>>It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
>>>>plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
>>>>cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
>>>>
>>>>So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
>>>built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
>>>fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
with a 4spd tranny, and it was pretty gutless on the hwy, if loaded.
Two people and a touch of camping gear kept me in third gear on any
incline at hwy speeds. I'm not saying I'd NEVER buy a 4 banger again,
but it would have to be a pretty sweet 4 cyl. CJ to steer me away from
the 6 cyls. Wrangler? Fuggedaboudit! Too many nice six cyl. Wranglers
around to mess with 4 bangers. JMHO.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
>>can you say briggs and straton
>>
>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"E. Jason Brooks" <scriptlizard@nospizamscriptlizard.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tARqc.1225$ZZ1.36827@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>>
>>>>Alright, I love my Jeep. Sweet 2000 Sport, silver and lovely. The problem
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>she is out of warranty and starting to give me problems. I figure it's
>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>>to trade her in (don't tell her) for a new one, but I am upside down in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>Jeep by a few grand and that wouldn't afford me the luxury of buying a new
>>>>one... or even a used one with a 6 cyl.
>>>>
>>>>It seems the best I could afford would be a 2003 SE model, around 15-16k
>>>>plus whatever my negative equity is. I always said I'd never own another 4
>>>>cylinder, but I'm getting desperate.
>>>>
>>>>So please... fill me in on the performance of the SE.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Like all things, it depends. If all you want is a no-frills, "will never be
>>>built" daily driver that won't see a lot of high speed highway use, it's
>>>fine. For most anything else, it sucks. Hey, that's why there's the 4.0L!
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#90
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Re: How underpowered IS the 4 cylinder??
Hi Mike,
I wouldn't admit that. This one's pretty slow:
http://www.----------.com/tascher/beach3.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I wouldn't admit that. This one's pretty slow:
http://www.----------.com/tascher/beach3.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Gee, nobody better tell some of the folks that come on Jeep trips with
> me that....
>
> I have been totally surprised every time someone tells me they have the
> 4 banger under the hood.
>
> They kept up with me at legal speeds on the highway and had no issues at
> all off road.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's