How to tell when coil springs are shot?
10-15-2006, 08:33 PM
#21
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Re: How to tell when coil springs are shot?
Marcel,
This is the procedure from the '96 ZJ factory manual Section 2 page 14:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Suspension.jpg
COIL SPRING
REMOVAL
(1) Raise and support the vehicle. Position a
hydraulic jack under the axle to support it.
(2) Disconnect the stabilizer bar link and shock
absorber from the axle bracket.
(3) Disconnect the track bar from the frame rail
bracket.
(4) Lower the axle until the spring is free from the
upper mount seat. Remove the coil spring retainer
bolt (Fig. 2) and remove the spring.
INSTALLATION
Inspect isolator the for damage or wear. Replace
the isolator if necessary before installing spring.
(1) Position the coil spring on the axle pad. Install
the spring retainer and bolt. Tighten the bolt to 22
N·m (16 ft. lbs.).
(2) Raise the axle into position until the spring
seats in the upper mount.
(3) Connect the stabilizer bar links and shock
absorbers to the axle bracket. Connect the track bar
to the frame rail bracket.
(4) Remove the supports and lower the vehicle.
(5) Tighten the brack bar and shock absorber to
specified torque.
For more detailed instructions with step by step pictures Google"'ZJ Budget
Boost" The only difference is instead of adding a spacer you are replacing
the whole spring.
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
This is the procedure from the '96 ZJ factory manual Section 2 page 14:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Suspension.jpg
COIL SPRING
REMOVAL
(1) Raise and support the vehicle. Position a
hydraulic jack under the axle to support it.
(2) Disconnect the stabilizer bar link and shock
absorber from the axle bracket.
(3) Disconnect the track bar from the frame rail
bracket.
(4) Lower the axle until the spring is free from the
upper mount seat. Remove the coil spring retainer
bolt (Fig. 2) and remove the spring.
INSTALLATION
Inspect isolator the for damage or wear. Replace
the isolator if necessary before installing spring.
(1) Position the coil spring on the axle pad. Install
the spring retainer and bolt. Tighten the bolt to 22
N·m (16 ft. lbs.).
(2) Raise the axle into position until the spring
seats in the upper mount.
(3) Connect the stabilizer bar links and shock
absorbers to the axle bracket. Connect the track bar
to the frame rail bracket.
(4) Remove the supports and lower the vehicle.
(5) Tighten the brack bar and shock absorber to
specified torque.
For more detailed instructions with step by step pictures Google"'ZJ Budget
Boost" The only difference is instead of adding a spacer you are replacing
the whole spring.
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
10-15-2006, 08:33 PM
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Re: How to tell when coil springs are shot?
Marcel,
This is the procedure from the '96 ZJ factory manual Section 2 page 14:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Suspension.jpg
COIL SPRING
REMOVAL
(1) Raise and support the vehicle. Position a
hydraulic jack under the axle to support it.
(2) Disconnect the stabilizer bar link and shock
absorber from the axle bracket.
(3) Disconnect the track bar from the frame rail
bracket.
(4) Lower the axle until the spring is free from the
upper mount seat. Remove the coil spring retainer
bolt (Fig. 2) and remove the spring.
INSTALLATION
Inspect isolator the for damage or wear. Replace
the isolator if necessary before installing spring.
(1) Position the coil spring on the axle pad. Install
the spring retainer and bolt. Tighten the bolt to 22
N·m (16 ft. lbs.).
(2) Raise the axle into position until the spring
seats in the upper mount.
(3) Connect the stabilizer bar links and shock
absorbers to the axle bracket. Connect the track bar
to the frame rail bracket.
(4) Remove the supports and lower the vehicle.
(5) Tighten the brack bar and shock absorber to
specified torque.
For more detailed instructions with step by step pictures Google"'ZJ Budget
Boost" The only difference is instead of adding a spacer you are replacing
the whole spring.
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
This is the procedure from the '96 ZJ factory manual Section 2 page 14:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Suspension.jpg
COIL SPRING
REMOVAL
(1) Raise and support the vehicle. Position a
hydraulic jack under the axle to support it.
(2) Disconnect the stabilizer bar link and shock
absorber from the axle bracket.
(3) Disconnect the track bar from the frame rail
bracket.
(4) Lower the axle until the spring is free from the
upper mount seat. Remove the coil spring retainer
bolt (Fig. 2) and remove the spring.
INSTALLATION
Inspect isolator the for damage or wear. Replace
the isolator if necessary before installing spring.
(1) Position the coil spring on the axle pad. Install
the spring retainer and bolt. Tighten the bolt to 22
N·m (16 ft. lbs.).
(2) Raise the axle into position until the spring
seats in the upper mount.
(3) Connect the stabilizer bar links and shock
absorbers to the axle bracket. Connect the track bar
to the frame rail bracket.
(4) Remove the supports and lower the vehicle.
(5) Tighten the brack bar and shock absorber to
specified torque.
For more detailed instructions with step by step pictures Google"'ZJ Budget
Boost" The only difference is instead of adding a spacer you are replacing
the whole spring.
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
10-15-2006, 09:58 PM
#23
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Re: How to tell when coil springs are shot?
Yes, they are making it far too difficult. Jack up the rear end. Support the
Jeep by the frame on jack stands. Put a jack on the axle, under one spring.
Jack up the jack untill the Jeep creeps less than 1mm off the jack stand on
that part of the axle. Lower it back down onto that jack stand. Go to the
other side of the axle, push up on the spring and it will pop off the mount
on the axle tube. Pull it off the bumpstop. Install the new one the same way
as the old one.
If you have a hard time, disconnect the sway bar to axle mounts. This works
best with the shocks off. You can also look at intalling 1" coil spring
spacers instead of new coil springs to save a few dollars. It will ride the
same either way, and probably look the same. Check out www.rocky-road.com
for the spacers. Stock legnth shocks will be fine.
HTH
Carl
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
Jeep by the frame on jack stands. Put a jack on the axle, under one spring.
Jack up the jack untill the Jeep creeps less than 1mm off the jack stand on
that part of the axle. Lower it back down onto that jack stand. Go to the
other side of the axle, push up on the spring and it will pop off the mount
on the axle tube. Pull it off the bumpstop. Install the new one the same way
as the old one.
If you have a hard time, disconnect the sway bar to axle mounts. This works
best with the shocks off. You can also look at intalling 1" coil spring
spacers instead of new coil springs to save a few dollars. It will ride the
same either way, and probably look the same. Check out www.rocky-road.com
for the spacers. Stock legnth shocks will be fine.
HTH
Carl
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
10-15-2006, 09:58 PM
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Re: How to tell when coil springs are shot?
Yes, they are making it far too difficult. Jack up the rear end. Support the
Jeep by the frame on jack stands. Put a jack on the axle, under one spring.
Jack up the jack untill the Jeep creeps less than 1mm off the jack stand on
that part of the axle. Lower it back down onto that jack stand. Go to the
other side of the axle, push up on the spring and it will pop off the mount
on the axle tube. Pull it off the bumpstop. Install the new one the same way
as the old one.
If you have a hard time, disconnect the sway bar to axle mounts. This works
best with the shocks off. You can also look at intalling 1" coil spring
spacers instead of new coil springs to save a few dollars. It will ride the
same either way, and probably look the same. Check out www.rocky-road.com
for the spacers. Stock legnth shocks will be fine.
HTH
Carl
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
Jeep by the frame on jack stands. Put a jack on the axle, under one spring.
Jack up the jack untill the Jeep creeps less than 1mm off the jack stand on
that part of the axle. Lower it back down onto that jack stand. Go to the
other side of the axle, push up on the spring and it will pop off the mount
on the axle tube. Pull it off the bumpstop. Install the new one the same way
as the old one.
If you have a hard time, disconnect the sway bar to axle mounts. This works
best with the shocks off. You can also look at intalling 1" coil spring
spacers instead of new coil springs to save a few dollars. It will ride the
same either way, and probably look the same. Check out www.rocky-road.com
for the spacers. Stock legnth shocks will be fine.
HTH
Carl
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
10-15-2006, 09:58 PM
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Re: How to tell when coil springs are shot?
Yes, they are making it far too difficult. Jack up the rear end. Support the
Jeep by the frame on jack stands. Put a jack on the axle, under one spring.
Jack up the jack untill the Jeep creeps less than 1mm off the jack stand on
that part of the axle. Lower it back down onto that jack stand. Go to the
other side of the axle, push up on the spring and it will pop off the mount
on the axle tube. Pull it off the bumpstop. Install the new one the same way
as the old one.
If you have a hard time, disconnect the sway bar to axle mounts. This works
best with the shocks off. You can also look at intalling 1" coil spring
spacers instead of new coil springs to save a few dollars. It will ride the
same either way, and probably look the same. Check out www.rocky-road.com
for the spacers. Stock legnth shocks will be fine.
HTH
Carl
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
Jeep by the frame on jack stands. Put a jack on the axle, under one spring.
Jack up the jack untill the Jeep creeps less than 1mm off the jack stand on
that part of the axle. Lower it back down onto that jack stand. Go to the
other side of the axle, push up on the spring and it will pop off the mount
on the axle tube. Pull it off the bumpstop. Install the new one the same way
as the old one.
If you have a hard time, disconnect the sway bar to axle mounts. This works
best with the shocks off. You can also look at intalling 1" coil spring
spacers instead of new coil springs to save a few dollars. It will ride the
same either way, and probably look the same. Check out www.rocky-road.com
for the spacers. Stock legnth shocks will be fine.
HTH
Carl
"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5azYg.9758$gx6.1579@trnddc05...
> Carl wrote:
>> Marcel,
>>
>> Unless you tow a LOT, the springs are probably fine. They are not bad
>> to replace at all. One bolt while the shocks are off. Does the rear end
>> sag?
>
> Yeah the rear does sag a bit, ever since I towed a 4,500lb trailer 1200
> miles several years ago.
>
> The Haynes manual makes it look a lot harder than removing one bolt. They
> have me disconnecting the rear drive shaft from the rear differential
> shaft yoke. Unbolt the lower suspension arms from the axle. Unbolt the
> stabilizer bar links and shock absorber. Disconnect the track bar from the
> axle bracket.
>
> Are the folks at Haynes making it sound more difficult than it really
> is?.....I sure hope so.
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