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Dave Milne 09-30-2007 01:17 PM

Re: How to start DIY
 
Ok, I'm with you for oil changes (amazing the people who don't prime the oil
filter or put oil on the seal !), but tyre rotation ???? If you can't change
a wheel, you have no place being on the road. Knowing where to put oil /
water and change a tyre is part of the driving test here.

Dave Milne

"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46ffcbeb$0$19578$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> For those of us who have done oil changes and spark plug changes a
> thousand times they are really simple, for someone who has done nothing
> more complicated than putting gas in their Jeep they are something new
> and they may have heard horror stories about "professionals" at places
> like Jiffy Lube doing oil changes and ruining engines.
>
> Just with an oil change... what filter do you use, how do you get the
> old filter off, any tricks to putting the new one on, getting the drain
> plug out, what do you do with the old, what do you drain it into...
>
> If you've never done anything like this it can be intimidating and why
> not ask the experts?
>
> Everyone has to start somewhere, and oil changes are an excellent place
> to start.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > It's all hard if you have to ask.
> >
> >
> > Fuel injector cleaning is pouring a can of injector cleaner into the gas
> > tank, or having it pumped directly into the injector rail.
> >
> > Engine decarb is where you suck a cleaner through an unused vacuum port
> > on the intake manifold. Transmission fluid works good here, but makes a
> > huge cloud of smoke that your neighbors may not appreciate. Water seems
> > to work as well, and creates fewer complaints.
> >
> > I'm not going to talk about an oil change. If you can't do this without
> > asking, you should not be doing any of this.
> >
> > Tire rotation. See my comments on the oil change.
> >
> > Manual transmission service is a bit of a PIA. You need to remove a
> > drain plug from the bottom of the transmission and a fill plug from the
> > side. When the draining is done, put the drain plug back in and fill
> > through thte fill hole until the fluid spills out, then put the fill
> > hole plug back in.
> >
> > Spark plugs are right up there with rotating tires and changing oil --
> > if you gotta ask ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Sean" <guo.xiaoyong@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1191008070.447625.158040@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
> >> I just owned my first car (95 jeep wrangler, 2.5L).
> >> Which one of the following is easy to do?
> >>
> >> Fuel Inujection cleaning
> >> Engine Decarb
> >> oil change
> >> tire rotation
> >> manual tran service
> >> spark plugs
> >>

> >




Dave Milne 09-30-2007 01:17 PM

Re: How to start DIY
 
Ok, I'm with you for oil changes (amazing the people who don't prime the oil
filter or put oil on the seal !), but tyre rotation ???? If you can't change
a wheel, you have no place being on the road. Knowing where to put oil /
water and change a tyre is part of the driving test here.

Dave Milne

"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46ffcbeb$0$19578$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> For those of us who have done oil changes and spark plug changes a
> thousand times they are really simple, for someone who has done nothing
> more complicated than putting gas in their Jeep they are something new
> and they may have heard horror stories about "professionals" at places
> like Jiffy Lube doing oil changes and ruining engines.
>
> Just with an oil change... what filter do you use, how do you get the
> old filter off, any tricks to putting the new one on, getting the drain
> plug out, what do you do with the old, what do you drain it into...
>
> If you've never done anything like this it can be intimidating and why
> not ask the experts?
>
> Everyone has to start somewhere, and oil changes are an excellent place
> to start.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > It's all hard if you have to ask.
> >
> >
> > Fuel injector cleaning is pouring a can of injector cleaner into the gas
> > tank, or having it pumped directly into the injector rail.
> >
> > Engine decarb is where you suck a cleaner through an unused vacuum port
> > on the intake manifold. Transmission fluid works good here, but makes a
> > huge cloud of smoke that your neighbors may not appreciate. Water seems
> > to work as well, and creates fewer complaints.
> >
> > I'm not going to talk about an oil change. If you can't do this without
> > asking, you should not be doing any of this.
> >
> > Tire rotation. See my comments on the oil change.
> >
> > Manual transmission service is a bit of a PIA. You need to remove a
> > drain plug from the bottom of the transmission and a fill plug from the
> > side. When the draining is done, put the drain plug back in and fill
> > through thte fill hole until the fluid spills out, then put the fill
> > hole plug back in.
> >
> > Spark plugs are right up there with rotating tires and changing oil --
> > if you gotta ask ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Sean" <guo.xiaoyong@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1191008070.447625.158040@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
> >> I just owned my first car (95 jeep wrangler, 2.5L).
> >> Which one of the following is easy to do?
> >>
> >> Fuel Inujection cleaning
> >> Engine Decarb
> >> oil change
> >> tire rotation
> >> manual tran service
> >> spark plugs
> >>

> >




Dave Milne 09-30-2007 01:17 PM

Re: How to start DIY
 
Ok, I'm with you for oil changes (amazing the people who don't prime the oil
filter or put oil on the seal !), but tyre rotation ???? If you can't change
a wheel, you have no place being on the road. Knowing where to put oil /
water and change a tyre is part of the driving test here.

Dave Milne

"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46ffcbeb$0$19578$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> For those of us who have done oil changes and spark plug changes a
> thousand times they are really simple, for someone who has done nothing
> more complicated than putting gas in their Jeep they are something new
> and they may have heard horror stories about "professionals" at places
> like Jiffy Lube doing oil changes and ruining engines.
>
> Just with an oil change... what filter do you use, how do you get the
> old filter off, any tricks to putting the new one on, getting the drain
> plug out, what do you do with the old, what do you drain it into...
>
> If you've never done anything like this it can be intimidating and why
> not ask the experts?
>
> Everyone has to start somewhere, and oil changes are an excellent place
> to start.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > It's all hard if you have to ask.
> >
> >
> > Fuel injector cleaning is pouring a can of injector cleaner into the gas
> > tank, or having it pumped directly into the injector rail.
> >
> > Engine decarb is where you suck a cleaner through an unused vacuum port
> > on the intake manifold. Transmission fluid works good here, but makes a
> > huge cloud of smoke that your neighbors may not appreciate. Water seems
> > to work as well, and creates fewer complaints.
> >
> > I'm not going to talk about an oil change. If you can't do this without
> > asking, you should not be doing any of this.
> >
> > Tire rotation. See my comments on the oil change.
> >
> > Manual transmission service is a bit of a PIA. You need to remove a
> > drain plug from the bottom of the transmission and a fill plug from the
> > side. When the draining is done, put the drain plug back in and fill
> > through thte fill hole until the fluid spills out, then put the fill
> > hole plug back in.
> >
> > Spark plugs are right up there with rotating tires and changing oil --
> > if you gotta ask ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Sean" <guo.xiaoyong@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1191008070.447625.158040@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
> >> I just owned my first car (95 jeep wrangler, 2.5L).
> >> Which one of the following is easy to do?
> >>
> >> Fuel Inujection cleaning
> >> Engine Decarb
> >> oil change
> >> tire rotation
> >> manual tran service
> >> spark plugs
> >>

> >




Jeff DeWitt 09-30-2007 04:38 PM

Re: How to start DIY
 
Good point, but the sad thing is that many young guys have fathers who
either don't have a clue about this stuff either, or just aren't around.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I guess the point I was trying to make is that if one is just getting
> started doing this stuff, it is best to get a friend or relative to
> teach the procedure. I am not suggesting that if one has not got the
> knowledge, they should simply throw in the towel and never learn. I'm
> suggesting that one can not ask for such a fundamental eductaion on a
> newsgroup.
>
> I think that there is a certain hands-on quality that is missing from
> usenet. The OP asked a question that is akin to the automotive
> equivelent to, how do I make the bed? We can describe the steps, but the
> lesson is better learned through hands-on experience. The projects are
> not hard, but they are technical, and having the stuff shown is better
> than reading about it.
>
> I suppose that my, "if you gotta ask ..." comment is misconstrued.
> Sorry. I guess that if you gotta ask, you should ask a friend or
> relative that can come over and walk you through it.
>
> As for which oil filter (or any other part, for that matter), that
> question can only be answered by looking in the parts catalog. My
> daughters can come home with the right filters for the car because they
> know how to read the catalog.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46ffcbeb$0$19578$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> For those of us who have done oil changes and spark plug changes a
>> thousand times they are really simple, for someone who has done
>> nothing more complicated than putting gas in their Jeep they are
>> something new and they may have heard horror stories about
>> "professionals" at places like Jiffy Lube doing oil changes and
>> ruining engines.
>>
>> Just with an oil change... what filter do you use, how do you get the
>> old filter off, any tricks to putting the new one on, getting the
>> drain plug out, what do you do with the old, what do you drain it into...
>>
>> If you've never done anything like this it can be intimidating and why
>> not ask the experts?
>>
>> Everyone has to start somewhere, and oil changes are an excellent
>> place to start.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> It's all hard if you have to ask.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fuel injector cleaning is pouring a can of injector cleaner into the
>>> gas tank, or having it pumped directly into the injector rail.
>>>
>>> Engine decarb is where you suck a cleaner through an unused vacuum
>>> port on the intake manifold. Transmission fluid works good here, but
>>> makes a huge cloud of smoke that your neighbors may not appreciate.
>>> Water seems to work as well, and creates fewer complaints.
>>>
>>> I'm not going to talk about an oil change. If you can't do this
>>> without asking, you should not be doing any of this.
>>>
>>> Tire rotation. See my comments on the oil change.
>>>
>>> Manual transmission service is a bit of a PIA. You need to remove a
>>> drain plug from the bottom of the transmission and a fill plug from
>>> the side. When the draining is done, put the drain plug back in and
>>> fill through thte fill hole until the fluid spills out, then put the
>>> fill hole plug back in.
>>>
>>> Spark plugs are right up there with rotating tires and changing oil
>>> -- if you gotta ask ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sean" <guo.xiaoyong@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1191008070.447625.158040@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> I just owned my first car (95 jeep wrangler, 2.5L).
>>>> Which one of the following is easy to do?
>>>>
>>>> Fuel Inujection cleaning
>>>> Engine Decarb
>>>> oil change
>>>> tire rotation
>>>> manual tran service
>>>> spark plugs
>>>>
>>>

>


Jeff DeWitt 09-30-2007 04:38 PM

Re: How to start DIY
 
Good point, but the sad thing is that many young guys have fathers who
either don't have a clue about this stuff either, or just aren't around.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I guess the point I was trying to make is that if one is just getting
> started doing this stuff, it is best to get a friend or relative to
> teach the procedure. I am not suggesting that if one has not got the
> knowledge, they should simply throw in the towel and never learn. I'm
> suggesting that one can not ask for such a fundamental eductaion on a
> newsgroup.
>
> I think that there is a certain hands-on quality that is missing from
> usenet. The OP asked a question that is akin to the automotive
> equivelent to, how do I make the bed? We can describe the steps, but the
> lesson is better learned through hands-on experience. The projects are
> not hard, but they are technical, and having the stuff shown is better
> than reading about it.
>
> I suppose that my, "if you gotta ask ..." comment is misconstrued.
> Sorry. I guess that if you gotta ask, you should ask a friend or
> relative that can come over and walk you through it.
>
> As for which oil filter (or any other part, for that matter), that
> question can only be answered by looking in the parts catalog. My
> daughters can come home with the right filters for the car because they
> know how to read the catalog.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46ffcbeb$0$19578$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> For those of us who have done oil changes and spark plug changes a
>> thousand times they are really simple, for someone who has done
>> nothing more complicated than putting gas in their Jeep they are
>> something new and they may have heard horror stories about
>> "professionals" at places like Jiffy Lube doing oil changes and
>> ruining engines.
>>
>> Just with an oil change... what filter do you use, how do you get the
>> old filter off, any tricks to putting the new one on, getting the
>> drain plug out, what do you do with the old, what do you drain it into...
>>
>> If you've never done anything like this it can be intimidating and why
>> not ask the experts?
>>
>> Everyone has to start somewhere, and oil changes are an excellent
>> place to start.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> It's all hard if you have to ask.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fuel injector cleaning is pouring a can of injector cleaner into the
>>> gas tank, or having it pumped directly into the injector rail.
>>>
>>> Engine decarb is where you suck a cleaner through an unused vacuum
>>> port on the intake manifold. Transmission fluid works good here, but
>>> makes a huge cloud of smoke that your neighbors may not appreciate.
>>> Water seems to work as well, and creates fewer complaints.
>>>
>>> I'm not going to talk about an oil change. If you can't do this
>>> without asking, you should not be doing any of this.
>>>
>>> Tire rotation. See my comments on the oil change.
>>>
>>> Manual transmission service is a bit of a PIA. You need to remove a
>>> drain plug from the bottom of the transmission and a fill plug from
>>> the side. When the draining is done, put the drain plug back in and
>>> fill through thte fill hole until the fluid spills out, then put the
>>> fill hole plug back in.
>>>
>>> Spark plugs are right up there with rotating tires and changing oil
>>> -- if you gotta ask ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sean" <guo.xiaoyong@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1191008070.447625.158040@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> I just owned my first car (95 jeep wrangler, 2.5L).
>>>> Which one of the following is easy to do?
>>>>
>>>> Fuel Inujection cleaning
>>>> Engine Decarb
>>>> oil change
>>>> tire rotation
>>>> manual tran service
>>>> spark plugs
>>>>
>>>

>


Jeff DeWitt 09-30-2007 04:38 PM

Re: How to start DIY
 
Good point, but the sad thing is that many young guys have fathers who
either don't have a clue about this stuff either, or just aren't around.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I guess the point I was trying to make is that if one is just getting
> started doing this stuff, it is best to get a friend or relative to
> teach the procedure. I am not suggesting that if one has not got the
> knowledge, they should simply throw in the towel and never learn. I'm
> suggesting that one can not ask for such a fundamental eductaion on a
> newsgroup.
>
> I think that there is a certain hands-on quality that is missing from
> usenet. The OP asked a question that is akin to the automotive
> equivelent to, how do I make the bed? We can describe the steps, but the
> lesson is better learned through hands-on experience. The projects are
> not hard, but they are technical, and having the stuff shown is better
> than reading about it.
>
> I suppose that my, "if you gotta ask ..." comment is misconstrued.
> Sorry. I guess that if you gotta ask, you should ask a friend or
> relative that can come over and walk you through it.
>
> As for which oil filter (or any other part, for that matter), that
> question can only be answered by looking in the parts catalog. My
> daughters can come home with the right filters for the car because they
> know how to read the catalog.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46ffcbeb$0$19578$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> For those of us who have done oil changes and spark plug changes a
>> thousand times they are really simple, for someone who has done
>> nothing more complicated than putting gas in their Jeep they are
>> something new and they may have heard horror stories about
>> "professionals" at places like Jiffy Lube doing oil changes and
>> ruining engines.
>>
>> Just with an oil change... what filter do you use, how do you get the
>> old filter off, any tricks to putting the new one on, getting the
>> drain plug out, what do you do with the old, what do you drain it into...
>>
>> If you've never done anything like this it can be intimidating and why
>> not ask the experts?
>>
>> Everyone has to start somewhere, and oil changes are an excellent
>> place to start.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> It's all hard if you have to ask.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fuel injector cleaning is pouring a can of injector cleaner into the
>>> gas tank, or having it pumped directly into the injector rail.
>>>
>>> Engine decarb is where you suck a cleaner through an unused vacuum
>>> port on the intake manifold. Transmission fluid works good here, but
>>> makes a huge cloud of smoke that your neighbors may not appreciate.
>>> Water seems to work as well, and creates fewer complaints.
>>>
>>> I'm not going to talk about an oil change. If you can't do this
>>> without asking, you should not be doing any of this.
>>>
>>> Tire rotation. See my comments on the oil change.
>>>
>>> Manual transmission service is a bit of a PIA. You need to remove a
>>> drain plug from the bottom of the transmission and a fill plug from
>>> the side. When the draining is done, put the drain plug back in and
>>> fill through thte fill hole until the fluid spills out, then put the
>>> fill hole plug back in.
>>>
>>> Spark plugs are right up there with rotating tires and changing oil
>>> -- if you gotta ask ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sean" <guo.xiaoyong@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1191008070.447625.158040@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> I just owned my first car (95 jeep wrangler, 2.5L).
>>>> Which one of the following is easy to do?
>>>>
>>>> Fuel Inujection cleaning
>>>> Engine Decarb
>>>> oil change
>>>> tire rotation
>>>> manual tran service
>>>> spark plugs
>>>>
>>>

>


Jeff DeWitt 09-30-2007 04:38 PM

Re: How to start DIY
 
Good point, but the sad thing is that many young guys have fathers who
either don't have a clue about this stuff either, or just aren't around.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I guess the point I was trying to make is that if one is just getting
> started doing this stuff, it is best to get a friend or relative to
> teach the procedure. I am not suggesting that if one has not got the
> knowledge, they should simply throw in the towel and never learn. I'm
> suggesting that one can not ask for such a fundamental eductaion on a
> newsgroup.
>
> I think that there is a certain hands-on quality that is missing from
> usenet. The OP asked a question that is akin to the automotive
> equivelent to, how do I make the bed? We can describe the steps, but the
> lesson is better learned through hands-on experience. The projects are
> not hard, but they are technical, and having the stuff shown is better
> than reading about it.
>
> I suppose that my, "if you gotta ask ..." comment is misconstrued.
> Sorry. I guess that if you gotta ask, you should ask a friend or
> relative that can come over and walk you through it.
>
> As for which oil filter (or any other part, for that matter), that
> question can only be answered by looking in the parts catalog. My
> daughters can come home with the right filters for the car because they
> know how to read the catalog.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46ffcbeb$0$19578$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> For those of us who have done oil changes and spark plug changes a
>> thousand times they are really simple, for someone who has done
>> nothing more complicated than putting gas in their Jeep they are
>> something new and they may have heard horror stories about
>> "professionals" at places like Jiffy Lube doing oil changes and
>> ruining engines.
>>
>> Just with an oil change... what filter do you use, how do you get the
>> old filter off, any tricks to putting the new one on, getting the
>> drain plug out, what do you do with the old, what do you drain it into...
>>
>> If you've never done anything like this it can be intimidating and why
>> not ask the experts?
>>
>> Everyone has to start somewhere, and oil changes are an excellent
>> place to start.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> It's all hard if you have to ask.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fuel injector cleaning is pouring a can of injector cleaner into the
>>> gas tank, or having it pumped directly into the injector rail.
>>>
>>> Engine decarb is where you suck a cleaner through an unused vacuum
>>> port on the intake manifold. Transmission fluid works good here, but
>>> makes a huge cloud of smoke that your neighbors may not appreciate.
>>> Water seems to work as well, and creates fewer complaints.
>>>
>>> I'm not going to talk about an oil change. If you can't do this
>>> without asking, you should not be doing any of this.
>>>
>>> Tire rotation. See my comments on the oil change.
>>>
>>> Manual transmission service is a bit of a PIA. You need to remove a
>>> drain plug from the bottom of the transmission and a fill plug from
>>> the side. When the draining is done, put the drain plug back in and
>>> fill through thte fill hole until the fluid spills out, then put the
>>> fill hole plug back in.
>>>
>>> Spark plugs are right up there with rotating tires and changing oil
>>> -- if you gotta ask ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sean" <guo.xiaoyong@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1191008070.447625.158040@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> I just owned my first car (95 jeep wrangler, 2.5L).
>>>> Which one of the following is easy to do?
>>>>
>>>> Fuel Inujection cleaning
>>>> Engine Decarb
>>>> oil change
>>>> tire rotation
>>>> manual tran service
>>>> spark plugs
>>>>
>>>

>



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