William Oliveri

Ok,
How about brand? I have a price quote of 32.00 for OEM from Chrysler, and
28.00 from Kragen (the best they stock) Borg Warner (lifetime warranty).

Thanks,

Bill

Any difference in Quality between the two.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4006FD39.9BCCBD15@sympatico.ca...
> Only by limiting higher voltages or higher performance spark systems I
> believe.
>
> I have found that the bigger Accel wires were total crap and I went back
> to stock OEM wires even with my hot Accel SuperCoil. I got a definite
> improvement when I switched to stock wires. I was in the middle of a 10
> day bush run and came out to find a Chrysler Jeep dealer the closest for
> new wires.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
ignition
> > system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
> > bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
modifications.
> >
> > When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
> > believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's performance?
> > Should I go back to stock wires?
> >
> > How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Bill

William Oliveri

Ok,
How about brand? I have a price quote of 32.00 for OEM from Chrysler, and
28.00 from Kragen (the best they stock) Borg Warner (lifetime warranty).

Thanks,

Bill

Any difference in Quality between the two.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4006FD39.9BCCBD15@sympatico.ca...
> Only by limiting higher voltages or higher performance spark systems I
> believe.
>
> I have found that the bigger Accel wires were total crap and I went back
> to stock OEM wires even with my hot Accel SuperCoil. I got a definite
> improvement when I switched to stock wires. I was in the middle of a 10
> day bush run and came out to find a Chrysler Jeep dealer the closest for
> new wires.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
ignition
> > system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
> > bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
modifications.
> >
> > When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
> > believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's performance?
> > Should I go back to stock wires?
> >
> > How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Bill

William Oliveri

Ok,
How about brand? I have a price quote of 32.00 for OEM from Chrysler, and
28.00 from Kragen (the best they stock) Borg Warner (lifetime warranty).

Thanks,

Bill

Any difference in Quality between the two.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4006FD39.9BCCBD15@sympatico.ca...
> Only by limiting higher voltages or higher performance spark systems I
> believe.
>
> I have found that the bigger Accel wires were total crap and I went back
> to stock OEM wires even with my hot Accel SuperCoil. I got a definite
> improvement when I switched to stock wires. I was in the middle of a 10
> day bush run and came out to find a Chrysler Jeep dealer the closest for
> new wires.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
ignition
> > system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
> > bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
modifications.
> >
> > When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
> > believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's performance?
> > Should I go back to stock wires?
> >
> > How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Bill

Mike Romain

I went Chrysler.

They also have a lifetime warranty now for their premium set.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
> How about brand? I have a price quote of 32.00 for OEM from Chrysler, and
> 28.00 from Kragen (the best they stock) Borg Warner (lifetime warranty).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> Any difference in Quality between the two.
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4006FD39.9BCCBD15@sympatico.ca...
> > Only by limiting higher voltages or higher performance spark systems I
> > believe.
> >
> > I have found that the bigger Accel wires were total crap and I went back
> > to stock OEM wires even with my hot Accel SuperCoil. I got a definite
> > improvement when I switched to stock wires. I was in the middle of a 10
> > day bush run and came out to find a Chrysler Jeep dealer the closest for
> > new wires.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
> ignition
> > > system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
> > > bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
> modifications.
> > >
> > > When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
> > > believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's performance?
> > > Should I go back to stock wires?
> > >
> > > How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill

Mike Romain

I went Chrysler.

They also have a lifetime warranty now for their premium set.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
> How about brand? I have a price quote of 32.00 for OEM from Chrysler, and
> 28.00 from Kragen (the best they stock) Borg Warner (lifetime warranty).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> Any difference in Quality between the two.
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4006FD39.9BCCBD15@sympatico.ca...
> > Only by limiting higher voltages or higher performance spark systems I
> > believe.
> >
> > I have found that the bigger Accel wires were total crap and I went back
> > to stock OEM wires even with my hot Accel SuperCoil. I got a definite
> > improvement when I switched to stock wires. I was in the middle of a 10
> > day bush run and came out to find a Chrysler Jeep dealer the closest for
> > new wires.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
> ignition
> > > system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
> > > bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
> modifications.
> > >
> > > When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
> > > believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's performance?
> > > Should I go back to stock wires?
> > >
> > > How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill

Mike Romain

I went Chrysler.

They also have a lifetime warranty now for their premium set.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
> How about brand? I have a price quote of 32.00 for OEM from Chrysler, and
> 28.00 from Kragen (the best they stock) Borg Warner (lifetime warranty).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> Any difference in Quality between the two.
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4006FD39.9BCCBD15@sympatico.ca...
> > Only by limiting higher voltages or higher performance spark systems I
> > believe.
> >
> > I have found that the bigger Accel wires were total crap and I went back
> > to stock OEM wires even with my hot Accel SuperCoil. I got a definite
> > improvement when I switched to stock wires. I was in the middle of a 10
> > day bush run and came out to find a Chrysler Jeep dealer the closest for
> > new wires.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
> ignition
> > > system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
> > > bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
> modifications.
> > >
> > > When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
> > > believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's performance?
> > > Should I go back to stock wires?
> > >
> > > How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill

Cherokee-LTD

Steve,
While both my statements are true, they may not be accurate in this
situation given the principals stated in your message. I was unaware of the
variable output of a coil and I was applying the basics of conductivity in
my message. You wouldn't happen to have a link handy that goes into more
detail would ya?
-Brian

"Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message
news:QCENb.116649$X%5.109453@pd7tw2no...
: Sorry Brian, not so. If you wanted the cleanest lowest resistance plug
wire
: a straight copper wire would work best. The thicker wires you see is
: primarily the thickness of the insulation, not the conductor. An
: interesting thing about secondary ignition systems is that the coil will
: only put out as much voltage as is required to overcome the resistance in
: the path it's going. If you're ever seen an engine on an old oscilliscope
: you can see the secondary voltage to each plug. Pull the wire off and
watch
: it spike through the roof trying to jump that open in the circuit.
: Resistance in the wire causes the coil to have to raise the voltage to
: overcome it. When this higher voltage reaches the plug it's much
: higher/hotter than would have been required to jump the gap with no
: resitance to overcome on the way. The coil is tricked into creating this
: higher voltage at the plug end.
: Quality ignition wires means good insulation and sturdy carbon core that
: won't break easily.
: Steve
: "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: news:ljDNb.47130$%wh.4491@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
: > The only "juice box" I am familiar with are the ones my daughters leave
: half
: > full in the kitchen and they squirt juice out the straw when you grab
them
: > (thinking they're empty).
: >
: > Your engine deserves the best spark possible to burn clean. Heavy gauge
: > wires help the flow of electricity... like pushing a golf ball through a
: 2"
: > tube versus through a straw.
: >
: > -Brian
: >
: > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
: > news:bu6te5$ej8ol$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
: > : Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
: ignition
: > : system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
: > : bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
: modifications.
: > :
: > : When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
: > : believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's
performance?
: > : Should I go back to stock wires?
: > :
: > : How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
: > :
: > : thanks,
: > :
: > : Bill
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

Cherokee-LTD

Steve,
While both my statements are true, they may not be accurate in this
situation given the principals stated in your message. I was unaware of the
variable output of a coil and I was applying the basics of conductivity in
my message. You wouldn't happen to have a link handy that goes into more
detail would ya?
-Brian

"Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message
news:QCENb.116649$X%5.109453@pd7tw2no...
: Sorry Brian, not so. If you wanted the cleanest lowest resistance plug
wire
: a straight copper wire would work best. The thicker wires you see is
: primarily the thickness of the insulation, not the conductor. An
: interesting thing about secondary ignition systems is that the coil will
: only put out as much voltage as is required to overcome the resistance in
: the path it's going. If you're ever seen an engine on an old oscilliscope
: you can see the secondary voltage to each plug. Pull the wire off and
watch
: it spike through the roof trying to jump that open in the circuit.
: Resistance in the wire causes the coil to have to raise the voltage to
: overcome it. When this higher voltage reaches the plug it's much
: higher/hotter than would have been required to jump the gap with no
: resitance to overcome on the way. The coil is tricked into creating this
: higher voltage at the plug end.
: Quality ignition wires means good insulation and sturdy carbon core that
: won't break easily.
: Steve
: "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: news:ljDNb.47130$%wh.4491@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
: > The only "juice box" I am familiar with are the ones my daughters leave
: half
: > full in the kitchen and they squirt juice out the straw when you grab
them
: > (thinking they're empty).
: >
: > Your engine deserves the best spark possible to burn clean. Heavy gauge
: > wires help the flow of electricity... like pushing a golf ball through a
: 2"
: > tube versus through a straw.
: >
: > -Brian
: >
: > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
: > news:bu6te5$ej8ol$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
: > : Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
: ignition
: > : system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
: > : bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
: modifications.
: > :
: > : When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
: > : believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's
performance?
: > : Should I go back to stock wires?
: > :
: > : How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
: > :
: > : thanks,
: > :
: > : Bill
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

Cherokee-LTD

Steve,
While both my statements are true, they may not be accurate in this
situation given the principals stated in your message. I was unaware of the
variable output of a coil and I was applying the basics of conductivity in
my message. You wouldn't happen to have a link handy that goes into more
detail would ya?
-Brian

"Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message
news:QCENb.116649$X%5.109453@pd7tw2no...
: Sorry Brian, not so. If you wanted the cleanest lowest resistance plug
wire
: a straight copper wire would work best. The thicker wires you see is
: primarily the thickness of the insulation, not the conductor. An
: interesting thing about secondary ignition systems is that the coil will
: only put out as much voltage as is required to overcome the resistance in
: the path it's going. If you're ever seen an engine on an old oscilliscope
: you can see the secondary voltage to each plug. Pull the wire off and
watch
: it spike through the roof trying to jump that open in the circuit.
: Resistance in the wire causes the coil to have to raise the voltage to
: overcome it. When this higher voltage reaches the plug it's much
: higher/hotter than would have been required to jump the gap with no
: resitance to overcome on the way. The coil is tricked into creating this
: higher voltage at the plug end.
: Quality ignition wires means good insulation and sturdy carbon core that
: won't break easily.
: Steve
: "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: news:ljDNb.47130$%wh.4491@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
: > The only "juice box" I am familiar with are the ones my daughters leave
: half
: > full in the kitchen and they squirt juice out the straw when you grab
them
: > (thinking they're empty).
: >
: > Your engine deserves the best spark possible to burn clean. Heavy gauge
: > wires help the flow of electricity... like pushing a golf ball through a
: 2"
: > tube versus through a straw.
: >
: > -Brian
: >
: > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
: > news:bu6te5$ej8ol$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
: > : Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
: ignition
: > : system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
: > : bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
: modifications.
: > :
: > : When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
: > : believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's
performance?
: > : Should I go back to stock wires?
: > :
: > : How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
: > :
: > : thanks,
: > :
: > : Bill
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

Mike Romain

Over the years I have tried about every brand out there.

I still think stock OEM are the best performers.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
> How about brand? I have a price quote of 32.00 for OEM from Chrysler, and
> 28.00 from Kragen (the best they stock) Borg Warner (lifetime warranty).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> Any difference in Quality between the two.
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4006FD39.9BCCBD15@sympatico.ca...
> > Only by limiting higher voltages or higher performance spark systems I
> > believe.
> >
> > I have found that the bigger Accel wires were total crap and I went back
> > to stock OEM wires even with my hot Accel SuperCoil. I got a definite
> > improvement when I switched to stock wires. I was in the middle of a 10
> > day bush run and came out to find a Chrysler Jeep dealer the closest for
> > new wires.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Before I put my older model MPI kit on my jeep I had a different
> ignition
> > > system called the Juice Box. This had the higher output ignition coil,
> > > bigger gauge spark plug wires and distributor cap and body
> modifications.
> > >
> > > When I put the MPI kit on I left the larger gauge spark plug wires (I
> > > believe 8mm). Will this have a negative effect on my jeep's performance?
> > > Should I go back to stock wires?
> > >
> > > How can different spark plug wire sizes affect engine performance?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill