Stupendous Man

"Dana Rohleder" > Up here in the Adirondacks, I also prefer not to drive my
YJ in the snow, or
> more specifically, on snowy roads covered with salt. I feel my Saturn FWD
> is much better in the vast majority of conditions,


I'm with you there. CJs are not a great snow car for paved roads. My front
wheel drive VW with studded tires is much safer and more comfortable to
drive than my Jeepster, which is fitted out as a rock crawler, not
transportation. One of my customers does have a CJ with ARBs as his only
vehicle, and he runs studded tires for winter and does ok, but even my
crapped out 80 datsun 4x4 is a better road car due to a longer wheelbase and
lower center of gravity. I enjoy winter off-roading as much as in warm
weather, so the Jeepster gets it's doors and hard top back in a month or so,
and will stand ready.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Stupendous Man

"Dana Rohleder" > Up here in the Adirondacks, I also prefer not to drive my
YJ in the snow, or
> more specifically, on snowy roads covered with salt. I feel my Saturn FWD
> is much better in the vast majority of conditions,


I'm with you there. CJs are not a great snow car for paved roads. My front
wheel drive VW with studded tires is much safer and more comfortable to
drive than my Jeepster, which is fitted out as a rock crawler, not
transportation. One of my customers does have a CJ with ARBs as his only
vehicle, and he runs studded tires for winter and does ok, but even my
crapped out 80 datsun 4x4 is a better road car due to a longer wheelbase and
lower center of gravity. I enjoy winter off-roading as much as in warm
weather, so the Jeepster gets it's doors and hard top back in a month or so,
and will stand ready.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Stupendous Man

"Dana Rohleder" > Up here in the Adirondacks, I also prefer not to drive my
YJ in the snow, or
> more specifically, on snowy roads covered with salt. I feel my Saturn FWD
> is much better in the vast majority of conditions,


I'm with you there. CJs are not a great snow car for paved roads. My front
wheel drive VW with studded tires is much safer and more comfortable to
drive than my Jeepster, which is fitted out as a rock crawler, not
transportation. One of my customers does have a CJ with ARBs as his only
vehicle, and he runs studded tires for winter and does ok, but even my
crapped out 80 datsun 4x4 is a better road car due to a longer wheelbase and
lower center of gravity. I enjoy winter off-roading as much as in warm
weather, so the Jeepster gets it's doors and hard top back in a month or so,
and will stand ready.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Some of my most fun times have been climbing Nate Harrison grade up
Palomar Mountain in the snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...de&btnG=Search
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> Up here in the Adirondacks, I also prefer not to drive my YJ in the snow, or
> more specifically, on snowy roads covered with salt. I feel my Saturn FWD is
> much better in the vast majority of conditions, and infinitely safer in a
> collision. However, I will take it out on those days when it is cold and the
> roads are dry - just to keep the battery charged, the tires round, and the
> seals working. This isn't necessary, but I find it easier than winterizing &
> storing it. As long as it is in your garage, why not use it when conditions
> permit?
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 93 Jeep YJ - I4 - 125k mi.
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd. - I6 - 145k mi.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Some of my most fun times have been climbing Nate Harrison grade up
Palomar Mountain in the snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...de&btnG=Search
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> Up here in the Adirondacks, I also prefer not to drive my YJ in the snow, or
> more specifically, on snowy roads covered with salt. I feel my Saturn FWD is
> much better in the vast majority of conditions, and infinitely safer in a
> collision. However, I will take it out on those days when it is cold and the
> roads are dry - just to keep the battery charged, the tires round, and the
> seals working. This isn't necessary, but I find it easier than winterizing &
> storing it. As long as it is in your garage, why not use it when conditions
> permit?
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 93 Jeep YJ - I4 - 125k mi.
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd. - I6 - 145k mi.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Some of my most fun times have been climbing Nate Harrison grade up
Palomar Mountain in the snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...de&btnG=Search
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> Up here in the Adirondacks, I also prefer not to drive my YJ in the snow, or
> more specifically, on snowy roads covered with salt. I feel my Saturn FWD is
> much better in the vast majority of conditions, and infinitely safer in a
> collision. However, I will take it out on those days when it is cold and the
> roads are dry - just to keep the battery charged, the tires round, and the
> seals working. This isn't necessary, but I find it easier than winterizing &
> storing it. As long as it is in your garage, why not use it when conditions
> permit?
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 93 Jeep YJ - I4 - 125k mi.
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd. - I6 - 145k mi.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr

Mike Romain

Well, an unheated garage doesn't activate salt by melting everything
every day....

I love driving my Jeeps in the snow. We do just as many if not more
winter trail runs up here in Canada as we do summer runs. A whole pile
of the off road trips in my sig line photo album are winter runs.

I have run more than one winter with only a bikini top too. Some of the
looks we get are wild. LOL!

Other than that, I recommend a full tank of gas and maybe parking it on
some plywood squares to keep the rubber off the concrete. Make sure the
antifreeze is up to par as well as the washer fluid. A fully charged
disconnected battery is safest. A low battery can freeze too.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> After toiling away on my new CJ this fall I plan on storing it for the
> winter in my unheated garage.
>
> Winters are way to harsh around here SALT SALT SALT on the roads. The
> 1st thing the boys @ Trailquest said "DON'T DRIVE IN THE SNOW"
>
> I have zero rust and intent to keep it that way. Oh yeah I have no to
> either...brrrrrrr
>
> So what do I need to do...drain gas or full tank, disconnect batt, use
> stabil.
>
> I have never stored a car and have no clue.
>
> Thanks

Mike Romain

Well, an unheated garage doesn't activate salt by melting everything
every day....

I love driving my Jeeps in the snow. We do just as many if not more
winter trail runs up here in Canada as we do summer runs. A whole pile
of the off road trips in my sig line photo album are winter runs.

I have run more than one winter with only a bikini top too. Some of the
looks we get are wild. LOL!

Other than that, I recommend a full tank of gas and maybe parking it on
some plywood squares to keep the rubber off the concrete. Make sure the
antifreeze is up to par as well as the washer fluid. A fully charged
disconnected battery is safest. A low battery can freeze too.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> After toiling away on my new CJ this fall I plan on storing it for the
> winter in my unheated garage.
>
> Winters are way to harsh around here SALT SALT SALT on the roads. The
> 1st thing the boys @ Trailquest said "DON'T DRIVE IN THE SNOW"
>
> I have zero rust and intent to keep it that way. Oh yeah I have no to
> either...brrrrrrr
>
> So what do I need to do...drain gas or full tank, disconnect batt, use
> stabil.
>
> I have never stored a car and have no clue.
>
> Thanks

Mike Romain

Well, an unheated garage doesn't activate salt by melting everything
every day....

I love driving my Jeeps in the snow. We do just as many if not more
winter trail runs up here in Canada as we do summer runs. A whole pile
of the off road trips in my sig line photo album are winter runs.

I have run more than one winter with only a bikini top too. Some of the
looks we get are wild. LOL!

Other than that, I recommend a full tank of gas and maybe parking it on
some plywood squares to keep the rubber off the concrete. Make sure the
antifreeze is up to par as well as the washer fluid. A fully charged
disconnected battery is safest. A low battery can freeze too.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> After toiling away on my new CJ this fall I plan on storing it for the
> winter in my unheated garage.
>
> Winters are way to harsh around here SALT SALT SALT on the roads. The
> 1st thing the boys @ Trailquest said "DON'T DRIVE IN THE SNOW"
>
> I have zero rust and intent to keep it that way. Oh yeah I have no to
> either...brrrrrrr
>
> So what do I need to do...drain gas or full tank, disconnect batt, use
> stabil.
>
> I have never stored a car and have no clue.
>
> Thanks